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Yes, Sasuke should have died-- way back in Land of Waves. Shame on you Haku, you could have done everyone a favor.   

 

 

i guess everyone here's moved on from Naruto, and narusaku? seems like it. 

I'm afraid this is true in my case. Ofcourse, I'll always be a NS fan at heart and Uzumaki Naruto will always be my favorite fictional character. 

Anyway, nice to see you still writing great omakes   

@ultranx, I'm doing good too, not really a fan of the dragonball series though 

Thanks to all who responded. Glad to see so many familiar posters' still being regulars on this site. Also, its really really nice to see Kishi's disgraceful attempts at wiping out any memories of NS from his manga have not had a bearing on the majority here.This community seems to be going as strong as always.

Team NaruSaku forever.  

Wow, its been a while. Anyone remember me ?    How are everyone doing ? 

Hi remember me? Its been a while   Glad to see you are still writing great omakes 

Damn, I notice that only a handful of members remain in this site. How different it would have been if a certain someone had the balls to do what's right and give the story the ending it deserved...!

I hate Masashi Kishimoto, that is all. I know its wrong to wish ill for any person but in this man's case, I can't help it. I hope his future works flop and his days as a 'professional' mangaka are numbered. 

are my omakes still good, or have they gone bad? i'm out of good ideas lol

Nah, as good as always. Keep up the good writing 

That's true, but The Last is set to break the originally established record by leaps and bounds. Hell! It might even surpass RtN by a whole billion Yen if the international release garners enough profit at the theatre.

Just because a movie is a box-office hit doesn't mean it ain't kitten.

If a movie is a hit, its either a) amazingly good or b) amazingly kitten. Average to good movies seem to remain just that...average. Its the new trend I suppose- 'Average is boring but kitten is entertaining'.  

you'll like thisthen. look at the top rated comment with 896 votes.

Excellent post but its missing the most important, concluding line

' Masashi Kishimoto taught me to never read what he writes ever again '. 

I just found my new screen-saver 

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ramenanmitsu, Why do you find this incessant need to turn this into 'Naruto VS Sakura: Who is more to blame' contest..? Why do you find it necessary to always twist all the blame onto Naruto when anyone even tries to point out Sakura's faults..? Why do you automatically assume that anyone who dares to point out Sakura's flaws are anti-Sakura..?

AHK asked whether Sakura was getting the same level of hate that is being directed towards Naruto in the Japanese fandom. He's pointing out Sakura's words/ actions in 699 were simply awful. He's not the only one who thinks so ! You say '' Naruto was also awful '' when there was no need to bring Naruto in the equation. Its not as if he said Naruto was flawless. Heck, he even agreed with you and pointed out both characters suffered. Now you say '' Okay, but Naruto was more bad. ''.....! 

Why..?! This is not a contest man 

Even the staunchest of Sakura fans don't defend her words in 699. Why ? Because they care about her, they care about her development. They wanted Sakura to become a strong, independent woman who won't take crap from any man, especially Sasuke. Instead we get a half-assed apology from Sasuke and Sakura says - " Sorry..? for what..? ". It was disappointing to say the least that she felt Sasuke didn't even need to apologize for all the physical and mental pain he caused her. 

It did not end there. She proceeds to ask if she could accompany him in his journey of atoning for his sins. Kishi destroyed her character right there and threw all her development down the drain. 

Think about the implications of her words. The moment Sasuke was on the good side again, she is ready to forgive all the crap he did and prepared to leave everyone behind and go with him. Does it not make her look as if she used Naruto and everyone merely to get Sasuke back..? Does it not make her look selfish..? Does her blushing and words to an undeserving Sasuke not destroy her integrity as a character and as a woman..? 

You argument is that she only wanted to leave on a temporary basis and that its fine for a wife to go with her husband. For one thing, Sasuke is obviously distant from Konoha and everyone there, it wasn't temporary. As far as the second point is concerned, they were not married. Forget married, they did not even have a decent resolution ! We see Sasuke apologize, we see Sakura cry and call him 'baka' and then... that's it. 

699 hurt Sakura and you know that. And just because I point out her flaws DOES NOT mean I'm pro-Naruto and anti-Sakura. I have no problem in acknowledging that the Last destroyed Naruto. 

Just because I like a character does not mean I should ignore their flaws and shift blame onto other characters. This would make me no different from those insane Hinata worshippers. If pointing out certain flaws of a character makes me an anti, I guess I'm anti-every character in Naruto.

Re Team Seven, its safe to say Kishi failed on all levels. Like I mentioned before, Kishi did not bother to develop Team Seven in the beginning, stuffed Team Seven's bond down our throats for the entire part two and ultimately he wasn't arsed to give them a decent ending. 

Kishi needed a reason to explain Naruto and Sakura's persistent attempts to rescue Sasuke and ' because of Team Seven bonds ' probably seemed like the easiest answer. Forget the fact that such a strong team connection was never indicated in the first place, forget that this bond was embarrassingly one sided with Sasuke routinely insulting and attempting to kill the other two, what irks me the most is the way Sasuke was handled in the end. 

Its pretty clear from Kishi's words that he never intended to portray Sasuke as the bad guy BUT he failed, once again. He overdid Sasuke's 'confused boy' act, especially in the Kage arc. I think even Kishi realized that there was no coming back after that point. However way you look at it, Sasuke was a criminal. There was simply no way he could come back and live in Konoha as if nothing had ever happened.

As far as my opinion goes, I think Kishi had two options--

First one was Sasuke being held responsible for his actions, being punished for his crimes. 

Second one was Sasuke realizing the errors of his way, acknowledging Naruto and Sakura so that they could have one final moment of laughing together again, then move on from Konoha completely. Team Seven should have been given a final resolution then and there and Sasuke should have left with Taka.

Kishi partially went with the second option and it baffled me. Sasuke decides to go on a journey, hoping to atone for his sins. From the epilogue chapter and the movie, its clear that Sasuke never settles down in Konoha. He isn't connected with Naruto anymore, he has left Konoha behind and is on a journey on his own. And that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that he still has one very strong tie with Konoha-- He married Sakura and has a daughter living there !  

Clearly Sasuke does not want to, does not deserve to ever be a part of Konoha. Why did he have to be married to Sakura and have a family he has no interest in..? Why was he not allowed to move on completely..? Why did Sakura have to settle for such a life with a man who is never there for her..? 

If this was Kishimoto's idea of a realistic, heroic ending for either Sasuke or Sakura, he really needs his head examined cause its anything but realistic. Sakura should have moved on from Sasuke, Team Seven should have got their last moment of laughing together again and Sasuke should have completely left behind Konoha.

Damn, why does it have to be sooo good..?  Your omake reminded me of how good the ending might've been. 

I have to say ramenanmitsu's comments on why Sasuke's reputation did not get tarnished among Japanese fans makes a lot of sense to me.

Many here-- myself included -- hate the personality that Sasuke has , hate the bad things he's done and hate the way he treated Naruto and Sakura. But the thing is Sasuke is the antagonist . He is supposed to have a dark nature, he is supposed to create conflicts, he is supposed to be the complete opposite of Naruto. 

This is what people expect from him--An arrogant, calculating guy who gives more importance to seeking power and answers rather than friendship and family. Its how he was characterized and he pretty much maintains that persona in 699 and the Last. And that's the thing... Sakura was destroyed in 699 and Naruto was annihilated in the Last. Their words and actions in 699 and the Last conflicted with everything they did/said before. 

Sakura regressed, she ignored Naruto and went back to her selfish best. It was as if her entire journey meant nothing, all of the things she learnt along the way were rendered pointless. Naruto...stopped being Naruto. He became immature and selfish, he disrespected his parents, teachers and friends and he forgot everything he stood for as a child.

Sasuke though comes to an understanding with Naruto, typically rejects Sakura's advances and then goes off on his own. Basically, out of the three of them, he is the one that remained the same the most. People had little to complain about him. It was also a bonus that he was fortunate enough to not get wrecked by the abomination that is 'The Last'. Heck, he actually managed to get sympathy from people because he was ignored in the movie.

SP's hatred of Sasuke turned out to be a blessing in disguise for his character in the end.

How about Shinachiku omakes..? Naruto and Sakura as parents..