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[Hanabi]

 

Do you know japanese? the assistant is only trying to cover kishi's butt for the bad ending so he has make everything sound positive about EVERYTHING since he is the "professional" assistant.

not at all.. though i do recognize a few kanji and narusakusasu's names..

[Princess Iris]

i duno.. that m(_ _;)m emoticon is supposed to be a guy kneeling down with sweatdrops (means apologizing in japanese) and the first sentence is something about narusaku believers ナルサク信仰者..

the japanese words u wrote is actually
"NaruSaku believers"

[Princess Iris]

does anyone know what this is? i hear from other forums it's kishi assistant criticizing ns fans for not understanding sakura's feelings for sasuke.
 
and if that's true i'm going to be so pissed. 

and yep, I cannot find that tweet

when he tweeted this?

[Michi]

does anyone know what this is? i hear from other forums it's kishi assistant criticizing ns fans for not understanding sakura's feelings for sasuke.
 
and if that's true i'm going to be so pissed. 

LOL.

OMG if this is is truuuue...

funny, cause he doesn't understand jackkitten about naruto's feelings for Sakura either.

Someone that knows Japanese needs to put him in place.

Doesn't he understand SS relationship is unhealthy?

[Nar123]

does anyone know what this is? i hear from other forums it's kishi assistant criticizing ns fans for not understanding sakura's feelings for sasuke.

 

and if that's true i'm going to be so pissed. 

 

 

Damn, its times like these i wish i could understand japanese

[Hanabi]

sorry guys it seems like that's just one naruto fan.. or a shop owner looking for attention.  

 

the description on the twitter page (by google translate)

 

Cut painting house, Nobuhiro line stamp on sale

@ Link_papa

Tokyo or Saitama

We are Linda and Randa sale, cut painting house and cartoon reed, there cartoon series experience, please feel free to follow ♪ cut picture I look at the site ↓

kirieatsu.blog.fc2.com

 

plz don't harass care about this person ok

[Shashank95]

 

Guys this looks more and more like a conspiracy...... 

I mean how can the author forget to draw a beard on a character ??
This is totally kittened up   

[XJohnnyApprovesNarskuX]

 

Guys this looks more and more like a conspiracy...... 

I mean how can the author forget to draw a beard on a character ??
This is totally f**cked up   

he was drunk, when you're drunk. you forget. or he was doing something drug related, thats the only explanation i can come up with for an ending like his lol

[Princess Iris]

 
Guys this looks more and more like a conspiracy...... 

I mean how can the author forget to draw a beard on a character ??
This is totally f**cked up   

damn!! Another!!
How the hell kishi drew last chapter??
This is not the first error pointed out !!!

There are many!!

[questdrivencollie]

How many errors appear in chapters in general? I mean, I've never really gone looking for them in this manga, but art errors are actually pretty common in general.

[tricksie]

Kishimoto's made lots of illustration errors in the past. I'm pretty sure he's even left of Naruto's whiskers before. The mistakes all get fixed before the volume comes out.

 

I would never have noticed them either if eagle-eyed readers here hadn't pointed the errors out.

[narusakuotp]

I think thats all it is, just mistakes. Some of you guys might be looking to much into it. I doubt he will troll people. Why would he put the true ending in a movie and not in his own manga where HIS story is told.

For the same reason he is using a movie to explain this random asspull ending in the manga. Also, never doubt trollmoto's trolling potential. This was the final chapter of the manga, and you would think he would proof read his work for such an important chapter. Yes, I am pretty sure he was rushing and was under pressure (that is why I think we got such an asspull ending), but seriously...something is really off here in my opinion...he wouldn't rush THAT much not to notice mistakes...would he?

Edited by narusakuotp, 18 November 2014 - 02:42 AM.

[narusakuotp]

I understand that the endgame pairings were asspulls but isn't that what the movies for. To example how Naruto moved on and why he fell for Hinata. NH has got the scarf thing, Hinata's singing a song about her feelings for Naruto, CD cover, FIRST LOVE on poster, and a spin-off about NH kids. All this and you expect a rejection or NH being trolled in the movie. I'm sorry if this hurts you, I really just want to let you see a different point of view about this.

You said Kishi wouldn't put the true end in the movie, yet Kishi is putting an explanation of the ending in the movie instead of the manga. If he can explain his ending in the movie, he can troll NH, too. I never said I expect a troll in the movie, but I am saying it is possible. NH still being canon in the movie like the epilogue is possible, too, but as an NS fan, of course I want to look at the better of the two possibilities. Kishi is a troll, so anything is possible with him. I already know the negative point of view...I am just trying to spread hope a little...

[SuperSilverStar]

My 699-700 Rant

 

I've been acting like an idiot on these forums ever since the spoilers for 699-700 were first shown. I've been pretty bitter these past weeks, bashing and cursing Kishi's decisions over the ending. While my statements were what I truly felt, I do regret writing it in a very immature way. Now with all the time that has passed, I think I can rant a little more coherently and maturely than I have the last two weeks.

 

Overall this rant will focus on my frustrations on NH/SS being canon and I hope it doesn't come off as too negative.  I really need to get this off my chest because this has been really bothering me and I feel if I write this out I can move on from this ending on focus more positively on the pairing that really made me appreciate this series in the first place.

 

This is the NaruSaku Debate Thread so I felt that I needed to object the pairings of NH/SS and why I feel that they are so flawed and why I refuse to acknowledge them as something positive to all the characters involved.

 

Something to note: I have never participated in pairing wars and to this day have never felt the urge to bash people who may like NH/SS. So, please understand that I am not criticizing/bashing the people who may like these pairings, but I will criticize the pairing themselves. This is my honest opinion on this matter so hopefully I don't offend anybody out there reading this.

 

SS

Seeing this pairing become canon just gives me the impression that Part 2 was just a waste of time for both of these characters.

The one thing I question from all this is what the hell did you do to Sakura, Kishimoto? Is Sakura suppose to be this strong female character who has been shown to have a fiery temper, confident in her abilities, and a very strong resolve or is she this submissive, weak-minded girl every time she is surrounded by Sasuke?

It’s very sickening to see now because honestly I was expecting a big payoff from all those panels of Sakura looking so dejected from all those insults Sasuke was throwing around during the war arc. The only time in Part 2 that I remember Sakura ever acting out on Sasuke was when Sasuke said something very disparaging to Naruto during the Land of Iron. Seeing this for the first time gave me some hope that Sakura would at least show some of her temper toward Sasuke for all the BS that he has put her and Naruto throughout the series. 693 should’ve been the chapter where Sakura did this and really moved on from any romantic feelings she had for Sasuke. Those few panels before her second confession (which was just a rehashed version of Part 1’s confession) gave me some hope that Sakura was now indeed fed up with Sasuke but was left utterly disappointed with the end results. With 700, it doesn’t seem to me that Sakura is no longer this strong woman. There is no reason now to have that Kushina parallel anymore because that was something meant for NS. I can’t see her acting in this manner with her husband and child.

As for Sasuke, I will make this quick. I did not like the way Sasuke was handled in Part 2 at all. All the convoluted stuff that Kishi had to shoehorn and make up along the way to keep Sasuke as this tragic anti-hero was just embarrassing as a fan to witness. The whole Uchiha clan love way too much and Sasuke becoming an incarnation of Indra (Along with Naruto as Ashura) were just stupid plot devices to keep Sasuke relevant to Kishi and ham-fist him into this final battle with Naruto. And the whole poke to the forehead scene in 699 was so tacky and OOC from Sasuke that is not even worth criticizing on because just a couple chapters before we had Sasuke proclaim his sound reasoning as to why would Sakura even have feelings for him in the first place and vice versa.

Overall this pairing is just a mess and I saw no positive development of this pairing from Kishimoto.

 

NH

This pairing has always been a head scratcher for me and I am honestly surprised Kishi went this route for the ending. I am going to disregard the movie because I am ranting about 699 and 700 and not 699.5 because it’s not even out yet (And I’m not planning on watching it at all) and I can already smell the retcon SP and Kishi have cooked up as to why they should hook these two up. This pairing has to be one of the most one-sided affairs that I have seen in a long time and the way these two end up together is never given the time of day in the manga. Really, it’s embarrassing that Kishi could not give the title character a developed relationship with the one he ends up with.

Naruto, as an MC, has been given the worst handed to him in my opinion in this ending. We never get to see how exactly he becomes the Hokage. He is depicted as a negligent father. He doesn’t get with the one who he truly loves. He doesn’t get any real focus at all in chapter 699 and his presence in 700 did not impress me at all. One of the things that baffle me is why would Kishi show Naruto being this kind of person to his family, when in my eyes, I could never see Naruto being this neglectful after living the majority of his life alone with no family. It really confuses me that Kishi could depict Naruto in this way. To me, this is just set up for Part 3 (which again, will have no interest in picking up) and is just another cheap way to continue this series.

Hinata well there isn’t much to say because of all the characters mentioned she is the only one to be classified as a side character. She is a very one-dimensional character who only purpose in the entire series is to show that she has romantic feelings for Naruto. Her moments to me were always overshadowed by Sakura. Hinata confession during Pain Arc then came NaruSaku Hug at the end of Pain Arc. Naruto/Hinata holding hands then came the CPR scene where Sakura saves Naruto's life. My biggest criticism of her and her missed potential is Kishi’s complete abandonment of her relationship with the Hyuuga clan, which is non-existent in Part 2. With this timeskip, Kishi didn’t even bother to show if the branch members even carry the Hyuuga curse seal anymore or if she’s even the leader of her clan which she might not be by the way she is depicted in 700.

 

Really don’t have much else to say but this pairing makes no sense just from lack of chemistry that both Naruto and Hinata have with each other and Naruto’s complete disinterest in her as a romantic interest for the rest of the series.

 

I feel like I just scratched the surface with my rant. There is so much to discuss but I don’t want sound too hateful and angry with the series because there were many things that I liked in the series. I liked some of the battle scenes, the NS interactions, the unique cast of characters throughout the series. But this ending was very disappointing to me. NS not becoming canon especially is something that deeply disappointed me. 

 

I don’t want to criticize anymore. The thing to focus now is on NaruSaku. There is a reason why I ship them and only them. I never really felt something like this before for a fictional pairing and is something that I just can’t abandon. I know now that I can’t depend on Kishi anymore for real closure on this wonderful pairing. Having read some Alternate Endings, I am glad to see the community continuing doing fantastic work and the incoming fan art as well. I want to contribute as well, I don’t know yet how I will do it, but I know when the day comes to show it off, I hope to make NS fans smile.

Edited by SuperSilverStar, 18 November 2014 - 03:03 PM.

[Question22]

NaruSaku - Shonen Jump's Valentine Edition (Curse you kishi....) You know what i think Kishi did this for money he probably realesed Road To Ninja to see if he will get any NaruSaku Fanbase but clearly NaruHina's fanbase was dominating so kishi chosse the most popular pairing without logic  or anything

Edited by Question22, 18 November 2014 - 03:34 PM.

[Newkidontheblock]

I just came back from naruto forum and I found something that I couldn't believe, but it's legit. Kishi wanted hinata to be with naruto a long time ago. He also said sakura would have been terrible if she suddenly loved naruto and she's only ever been wholeheartedly about sasuke.
Anyone who wants to read this go to this link https://www.tumblr.com/search/narusaku
After reading this, I don't know how to feel about naruto anymore. I feel sick