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[nekovi]

Would Kishimoto likely draw something sexual between his characters?



I don't mean like THAT. They're his characters... but, like... yeah. You get me, don't you?

I mean, like NaruSaku, or SasuKarin, or god forbid, NaruHina? Is he even capable of it, or would he just skip it cause it would be out of place?

I'm rather curious...

[Froot]

Would Kishimoto likely draw something sexual between his characters?



I don't mean like THAT. They're his characters... but, like... yeah. You get me, don't you?

I mean, like NaruSaku, or SasuKarin, or god forbid, NaruHina? Is he even capable of it, or would he just skip it cause it would be out of place?

I'm rather curious...

Um... Well, considering the manga isn't a porno, he wouldn't. It depends on how graphic the scene would be. Are you talking about a little lime, if you will, or a full-on lemon?

Actually, you don't even really have to make a topic out of this, only think about it for a minute. :/

[ciardha]

It's funny how in shoujo manga aimed at the same age range, the two main romantic characters making love (yes, making love, it's almost always depicted romantically) is nothing unusual, sometimes they are even shown that way multiple times during the story. While shonen manga has tons of fanservice of the female characters- panty shots, breast close-ups, the guy grabbing the girl's breasts or butt, etc... but almost never shows the characters in even romantic sexual situations. I find the typical shonen approach irritatingly crude and immature, shoujo manga is a lot more honest with characters passions. The fact that Kishimoto indulges in very little fanservice of female characters compared to even the other popular titles in Shonen Jump, and has played the romances with more respect that is typical in shonen manga, makes me wonder if he won't give narusaku something like the shoujo treatment (as much as his editors will alllow, anyway) when they do finally get together.

[Froot]

Agreed. I certainly wouldn't mind it at all, but it seems a bit much for the manga

[nekovi]

Um... Well, considering the manga isn't a porno, he wouldn't. It depends on how graphic the scene would be. Are you talking about a little lime, if you will, or a full-on lemon?

Actually, you don't even really have to make a topic out of this, only think about it for a minute. :/

Oh,no, no, no. I don't mean anything like that. I just meant... eh... nevermind. Dumb topic It really was a spur of the moment thought

@Ciardha, I agree. I do hope something sweet like that could happen at the end.

[True]

Kishimoto drawing hentai? HAHA!

His art is pretty mediocre compared to other mangakas. If any shounen artist is going to be good at drawing hentai, it'll definitely be Kubo. I bet he has a stack of Yoruichi/Matusmoto doujins locked away I know that Ken Akamatsu (Love Hina & Negima!) drew some in his younger days during C76, Yabuki Kentaro makes uncensored takabons for To-LOVE-Ru to boost sales, and Matsuena Syun (Kenichi) would do a good job considering he has fanservice in every other panel. The best sexual scene I've seen is from Berserk between Casca/Gutts. Hell even when Griffith raped Casca demonic style the art was still fantastic.

But yeah, you're best bet would be some NaruSasu with uke Naruto no doubt.

[Cloud]

His art is pretty mediocre compared to other mangakas. If any shounen artist is going to be good at drawing hentai, it'll definitely be Kubo. I bet he has a stack of Yoruichi/Matusmoto doujins locked away

*Raids Kubo's safe*

[James S Cassidy]

Let's see if I can say this while being sensitive

If....ummm....."romantic intercourse," can I say? If such a thing does happen, however unlikely, it would probably be similar to that off soft pron. Naked upper bodies with no...female anatomy showing under blankets.

I mean he did show Sakura's *ahem* assets... in the past and still keep it friendly so no doubt if Kishimoto does he would do it right.

[Derock]

I don't know...

I highly doubt a very romantic scene would be possible in a shonen manga. First off, mangas like this tends to favor teenage boys for the action and fights. Love scenes are favorable for girls reading shojo/shojo-ai/josei mangas. Plus, Seinen mangas counts as well. Next, editors. Somehow, someway... it has to have the green light from them. And third... CUE THE CENSORS!!! (Once it comes to US shores... )

Now if he draw a scene when they already had done it for self-explanitory reasons so the reader can know... it's probably the best way to go.

Oh, and True, you know damn well yaoi won't happen in a shonen manga.

[ciardha]

I don't know...

I highly doubt a very romantic scene would be possible in a shonen manga. First off, mangas like this tends to favor teenage boys for the action and fights. Love scenes are favorable for girls reading shojo/shojo-ai/josei mangas. Plus, Seinen mangas counts as well. Next, editors. Somehow, someway... it has to have the green light from them. And third... CUE THE CENSORS!!! (Once it comes to US shores... )

They haven't censored Yuu Watase's lovemaking and near lovemaking scenes in Fushigi Yuugi, Ceres, and Genbu Kaiden.

And it's funny, Yuu Watase's sexy romantic shoujo manga stories actually had higher than average male fans for a shoujo title- 30%, and that's just the ones that were public about being fans (in Japan. US wise I know it's they were the shoujo titles I saw the most male cosplayers passionate about the stories- especially Fushigi Yuugi and Ceres, which have been animated. Watase's less sexy romantic stories- Alice 19th and Imadoki, had a lot less male intrerest amongst Japanese readers and US cosplayers.) Teenage and twenty-something guys might be too uncomfortble to admit it in public (the Thirty and Forty-something guys I know who read manga tend to be more comfortable admitting such a thing, at least to a woman , but clearly they like romantic lovemaking scenes too.

Kishimoto seems to be at least somewhat aware how much even young guys secretly like romantic stuff (and he certainly knows how high his female readership is- especially in the second part of Naruto. The manga publishers regularly put in mail-in post cards in the tankobons in Japan asking basic questions like age and gender, etc... that's how Yuu Watase knew some of her manga had at least 30% male readership, how Takashi knew Ranma 1/2 and Inuyasha had at least 50% female readership, etc...)

I'm not expecting Kishimoto to draw a Watase-like scene between Naruto and Sakura (but I'd love it if he did!) but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't do something that his editors allowed. But they would probably be the only couple who got such a scene. (If SasuKar ends up canon and Sasuke survives to the end of the manga he might suggest something definitely happened between the two of them, considering how openly he suggested sexual things had happened between Sasuke and Orochimaru, and Karin's comments about "ravaging" an unconscious Sasuke when she was alone with him, the Yaoi no Jutsu Konohamaru did, he doesn't shy away from things not usually seen in shonen manga but seen in more female orientated manga.

Edited by ciardha, 17 November 2009 - 08:08 AM.

[RedDelicious]

Sheesh, if Kishimoto is going to do manga porn, I'd think he would
use ShikaTemari instead of NaruSaku. I can imagine Temari doing
a lot of yelling and moving, while Shikamaru has a bored expression
on his face. (For some reason, the over-the-top scenes from Golgo13
come to mind.)

If the coupling ever happens, what I think would be likely is a close-in to
a kiss, a couple of panels showing the sky/birds/landscape, and then
a scene-cut to the next day. Seeing Sakura and Naruto blushing
and beaming in the aftermath would be far sexier than seeing the
details.

[Froot]

Seeing Sakura and Naruto blushing and beaming in the aftermath would be far sexier than seeing the details.

Great way of putting it, Red. That's exactly what he would do.

Edited by Froot, 17 November 2009 - 04:57 PM.

[Nee-sama]

The simple answer is No, he's probably not allowed to even if he wanted to.

Edited by Nee-sama, 17 November 2009 - 05:24 PM.

[Kamina-Yoshi]

This is what doujinshi, doujin-moe and fanfiction is for. To fill in the dots.

Amirite?

[James S Cassidy]

Kishimoto actually has a nice freedom to play with in the Shonen Manga. I mean look at Love Hina which has some-what-Nudity, groping, the talk about groping, plenty of panty shots, kissing, and lot and LOTS of fan-service so no doubt a Shonen manga can ave all those things and still get past censors.

Evangelion has nudity with actual female and male anatomy showing and it got past the censors here. So I doubt censorship would be a problem.

You know, I think we at least need a kissing scene. I don't care about fan-service, but I am a guy who liked romance and wish for at least one kissing scene between anyone.....okay not from Naruto and Sasuke....I mean a real one that is not an accident.

[ciardha]

As far as hinting at romantic sexual relations with characters that were really involved there was that one tiny picture in Tsunade's flashbacks about Dan where they were cuddling (but still clothed) in some field, and that was in part 1 when he kept the overt sexual stuff more subtle. In part 2 we've had some more overt sexual suggestive images of Orochimaru and Sasuke, Karin's comment about having her way with an unconscious Sasuke, Konohamaru's yaoi no jutsu involving a henge of Sasuke and Sai, Sakura's bedroom eyed look at Naruto when she offered to feed him...

No I don't think we'll get shoujo romantic lovemaking scenes with Naruto and Sakura, but there's been enough playing around that he's done (quite different from the typical shonen fanservice) closer to what you might see in shoujo manga for the same age range, that I'm kind of thinking more than a kiss is going to happen. If Kishimoto goes all the way to shoujo lovemaking scenes with Naruto and Sakura I'll be over the moon. (shoujo lovemaking scenes isn't even on the level of soft core porn- no lower sexual anatomy is shown, female breasts just a hint of, usually with the nipples covered by the guys hands, with about one side view of the guy laying on top of the girl between her legs. Most the focus during the lovemaking is on the faces of the couple, and quite often their hands are shown clasped together. It's a lot like a visual representation of what you'd read in a romance novel that has lovemaking scenes in it. Heavy emphasis on the intense emotional bond of the moment-basically a sexually spiritual joining, little to none of the "mechanics" of it.)

[James S Cassidy]

Hmmm....I am more of a visual kind of guy. Not very good at explaining detailed scenes, but perhaps something like this by another artist has made?

Warning: might be iffy among younger members. --Click here to view--

I don;t understand why something like that is unappropriated for some people. I mean I do understand and yet I don;t at the same time. Love and romance is the best thing we have as a human being. It defies all logic and scientific reasoning. It creates heroes and sometimes creates villains.

I wish the world would be more lenient to this sort of things, but most people are perverts and tend to look it as sexual pleasure, but I want it to happen for another kind of pleasure. I want watch it for romantic pleasure if that even makes sense. As an artist this is what I want to do. I want to show the world through my art that being naked and making love is the purest most unsinful thing any person can ever do. Sex is only bad when done by bad people for the wrong reasons, but it can also be the greatest thing.

It's like....it's a promise of a lifetime. To tell someone you love them enough to give not only emotional, but physical pleasure as well. A promise to never leave them, to always protect them in times of need, and never let them go.

I know it is very unlikely for something like this to happen, but I truly do want it to happen. Gives me hope in my life. I know I am being pathetic, but seeing how these character can do it means I can do it too. I can be that hero I want to be.

Love is the greatest strength of all....

[ciardha]

Yes! That's exactly why I'd be over the moon if Kishimoto did have something like that with Naruto and Sakura.

As a Wiccan that is how I view lovemaking vs just having sex. Lovemaking is a kind of intensely spiritual magic. (What sex magic actually is meant to be.)

[True]

Kishimoto actually has a nice freedom to play with in the Shonen Manga. I mean look at Love Hina which has some-what-Nudity, groping, the talk about groping, plenty of panty shots, kissing, and lot and LOTS of fan-service so no doubt a Shonen manga can ave all those things and still get past censors.

Difference is that Love Hina was a part of the harem genre so it was allowed to get past it. WSJ allows only certain series the privilege of allowing excessive fanservice so they can appeal to their entire demographic. They had To-LOVE-Ru before it got canceled and currently they're using Ane Doki and I guess Meda Box. Kishi is never really one for female fan service, Naruto follows more along in lines with Hitman Reborn and giving appeal to female readers.

Evangelion has nudity with actual female and male anatomy showing and it got past the censors here. So I doubt censorship would be a problem.

I assume you're talking about the manga, which started off in Shounen Ace but later moved to the seinen category.