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[shadow_Uzumaki]

Covered to Protect your Sanity. You Were WARNED...well, mostly because it's a big picture

 

Those soulless eyes.....

[Sakura Blossoms]

Microsoft the gift that you don't want that keeps on giving
 

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There's been a few things that I haven't posted from the E3 press conferences that took place on Monday, one of them being the transition from Microsoft Points to local currency. Microsoft announced the retirement of MS Points during its E3 press conference on Monday, and many people are excited for this because converting MS Point values into real money to figure out prices in our heads was a bit of an inconvenience. Yesterday, Microsoft posted a FAQ on the transition, and there's one aspect that really concerns me.

The second question asks "How does this change affect me?" Here's the answer that follows.

You will begin using local currency or an Xbox Gift Card (denominated in your local currency) to buy music, games, videos, and more from your favorite Xbox stores. When you use your existing Microsoft Points to initiate a purchase or redeem a Points card with your Microsoft account later this year, we’ll deposit into your account an amount of money equal to or greater than the marketplace value of your Microsoft Points, and your Microsoft Points will be retired. The purchased funds you deposit into your account after the transition will not expire. However, the funds we deposit into your account at the time of the transition will expire one year from the deposit date.

The part we want to focus on are the last couple sentences. "The purchased funds you deposit into your account after the transition will not expire. However, the funds we deposit into your account at the time of the transition will expire one year from the deposit date."

Basically what this means is that the Microsoft Points that are in your account right now will be converted to your local currency this fall when the update hits. These converted points will have an expiration date of one year, meaning you have until the fall of 2014 to use that money.

Your Microsoft Points stashed in your XBL account right now is a ticking time bomb.

Any points redeemed after the transition will not expire though. But I doubt many people really keep unused Microsoft Point cards lying around. [Edit: Actually this may not be true, it seems like MS Points may expire regardless.]

This is a slap in the face when recently, Microsoft issued a $10 coupon to the Microsoft Store immediately after the Xbox One reveal in May. Many users took advantage of the coupon to buy $15 worth of Microsoft Points for $5 after discount. People who have redeemed those points now will eventually have to use up their MS Points by fall of 2014 or else they will forfeit that money.

Money redeemed for the PlayStation Network and the Nintendo eShop do not expire.

So just a bit of a heads up. If you still have Microsoft Points in your Xbox Live account, be sure to know that you have about 16 months until those points expire after MS converts those points into your local currency.

 

I will say that I'm pretty disappointed in MS. It's just been slap-in-the-face after slap-in-the-face from them for their new console.

[dl316bh]

Oi, something just hit me. Will either of these systems offer backwards-compatibility? Has either MS or Sony even mentioned this about either of their systems? I don't remember seeing or hearing any news on this

 

Late response on this, but Sony is working to allow backwards compatibility with PS3 games and PSN titles through a Cloud service. So... kind of? I mean, it sucks you won't be able to use the disc but that would require extra parts in the system which drives up the cost.

 

Microsoft isn't offering any BC at all.

I will say that I'm pretty disappointed in MS. It's just been slap-in-the-face after slap-in-the-face from them for their new console.

 

Yeah, wow. It's almost comical. Just when you think they're done kicking you in the face, along comes another.

Really, the only thing that was controversial with the X1 was their policy on used games and online stuff, take that away (and price it to match the PS4), it has a lot of good games that can back it up.

I don't know, the only thing sounding appealing to me is Titanfall. Add in Halo if you care about that.

 

I would have put Killer Instinct there, but guess what? It's free to play and you have to buy each character! Isn't that just lovely? I swear, it's like they hate their consumers.

 

Seriously, why would anyone buy this thing?

Edited by dl316bh, 13 June 2013 - 07:06 PM.

[Mik3]

Reggie on used games: 

 

 

"We have been very clear, we understand that used games are a way for some consumers to monetize their games," Fils-Aime said. "They will buy a game, play it, bring it back to their retailer to get credit for their next purchase. Certainly, that impacts games that are annualized and candidly also impacts games that are maybe undifferentiated much more than [it] impacts Nintendo content. Why is that? Because the replayability of our content is super strong. The consumer wants to keep playing Mario Kart. The consumer want to keep playing New Super Mario Bros. They want to keep playing Pikmin. So we see that the trade-in frequency on Nintendo content is much less than the industry average – much, much less. So for us, we have been able to step back and say that we are not taking any technological means to impact trade-in and we are confident that if we build great content, then the consumer will not want to trade in our games."

 

 

Miyamoto on used games:

 

 

 

“We’re more worried about piracy and we think used games are a whole other story. In fact, from our perspective you want to create a game that people will want to keep and keep playing for a long time. That’s the approach that we always take and that’s the best way to avoid used games.”

 

 

Nintendo dropping knowledge, make  your games worth keeping and they won't get traded in.                                                                           

[dl316bh]

Nintendo's always been like that. It's part of why I like them. It's also why, despite the fact that I make jokes, I don't want them to fail and I want them to do well. Gaming always needs voices like theirs out there.

[Strangelove]

It has been a terrible year for Microsoft has it?

 

First everyone wasn't feeling it for Windows 8

 

and now...no one likes X Box One...to be honest...even the name makes me feel sour.

 

Videogames aren't what they used too...I will just get Assassins Creed Black Flag, Grand Theft Auto V, Saints Row IV, and Battlefield 4, and that will be it...

[Sakura Blossoms]

Whoa! One of my good friends has been able to attend E3 for the last few days, and he just posted this pic of himself and one of my all-time fave gaming personalities

 

It's the Sess! =D

 

[shadow_Uzumaki]

I JUST RECEIVED A FINAL FANTASY 14 REALM REBORN BETA INVITE IN MY EMAIL.  

[dl316bh]

First everyone wasn't feeling it for Windows 8

 

That wasn't a shock. M$ has this weird thing where they seem to follow the Star Trek rule for their operating systems. Every other one is garbage, always followed by a good one.

 

It explains XB One as well; Microsoft never learns its lesson regarding forcing restrictive s*** with their operating systems, so why are we shocked they didn't get the memo with consoles?

[Strangelove]

 

I appreciate all platform systems...except Xbox one.

 

Here's a joke:

 

Why does the new xbox is called" one"? Because it's" one" piece of crap lol

 

 

Because release date will be so bad, that only one person will purchase it.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Yeah, wow. It's almost comical. Just when you think they're done kicking you in the face, along comes another.

 

The gift that keeps on giving >.>

http://www.rollingst...ncerns-20130613

[Dreamer]

DHS and CIA fully endorse Xbox One.

Edited by Dreamer, 15 June 2013 - 06:14 PM.

[Smiter]

Reggie on used games: 

 

 

Miyamoto on used games:

 

 

 

Nintendo dropping knowledge, make  your games worth keeping and they won't get traded in.                                                                           

 

Yeah, I've always liked that approach. 

 

Quite often, you get these expensive blockbuster titles that only take 10 hours or less to finish in single-player, and they offer no incentive to replay them once you're done with the story.  So it's only natural that people will just sell off those games for a new one.  Why should we be punished for wanting to resell something we bought with our own money?

[Cloud]

I usually keep all my games.

 

Which is scary because if I ever move out, I need a whole bookcase just for them.