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#21 ciardha

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Jan 27 2011, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That doesn't make any sense to me though, I don't remember the mention the Nidaime to them. Plus the headbands of the Kumo symbol remove the possibility of the pre-village state. Konoha was said to be the first village and adopted the leaf symbol and the uniforms are standard Kumo issue.


Born before the village founding- probably shortly before. Meaning they grew up as Kumo ninja. Meaning they were somwhere around Hiruzen, Danzo, Koharu, etc... age when they faced Tobirama. The name of the group Tobirama faced had part of their names as the title. If it had been Minato's generation most adult Konoha ninja would have known of them.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 02:57 PM

From my understanding Kushina was sent from Uzushiokure to Konoha to be the Jinchuuriki, so Uzumaki clan hasn't been sperad over the World at the time... When continuing the line of thinking, Uzushiokure was destroyed during 3rd war at least after the 2nd.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (Hak @ Jan 28 2011, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From my understanding Kushina was sent from Uzushiokure to Konoha to be the Jinchuuriki, so Uzumaki clan hasn't been sperad over the World at the time... When continuing the line of thinking, Uzushiokure was destroyed during 3rd war at least after the 2nd.


Definitely after the second. Jiraiya taught Yahiko, Konan and Nagato as the 2nd was winding down. Jiraiya became Minato's Genin team sensei after the 2nd ended. Wouldn't be surprised if the destruction of Uzushiokure was the trigger for the start of the 3rd. Yes, the logical guess is that Nagato's mother was the Uzumaki of his parents, but she apparently married a Rain country civilian and retired- if she had ever been good enough to be an active ninja. What with Mito, Kushina, and Nagato's mother it looks like Uzumaki women were already marrying people from other countries even before Uzushiokure was destroyed. (I have my suspicions that Chiyo might have had an Uzumaki mother too... Terumi Mei even moreso.)
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jan 28 2011, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Definitely after the second. Jiraiya taught Yahiko, Konan and Nagato as the 2nd was winding down. Jiraiya became Minato's Genin team sensei after the 2nd ended. Wouldn't be surprised if the destruction of Uzushiokure was the trigger for the start of the 3rd. Yes, the logical guess is that Nagato's mother was the Uzumaki of his parents, but she apparently married a Rain country civilian and retired- if she had ever been good enough to be an active ninja. What with Mito, Kushina, and Nagato's mother it looks like Uzumaki women were already marrying people from other countries even before Uzushiokure was destroyed. (I have my suspicions that Chiyo might have had an Uzumaki mother too... Terumi Mei even moreso.)


It could have...but reports show that it was the disappearance of Suna's leader that triggered it.


If you take notice, this current war is the first war that the nations are fighting in unity. Who is to say that the smaller nations won't take this chance to join Madara and take vengeance upon the larger ones.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:28 AM

MY BRAIN IS FULL OF kitten!!!!!!!!! arg.gif


But I may have a theory on how the hole "advanced bloodline limit" thing works.


You know how the Fifth Mizukage has two advanced elements and three basic elements (Earth, Fire and Water)? Well maybe the Third Tsuchikage doesn't just mix Earth, Wind and Fire (lol real life band reference heheelq7.png ) all together at once, but mixes them together by mixing TWO advanced elements together to form the Dust Style Jutsu. Now about the Fifth Mizukage, what do her two advanced (Lava Style and Boil Style) elements have in common? They both require Fire Style to create the two separate advanced elements while Earth Style and Water Style are only used in either one of the advanced elements or the other. Which leaves me to believe that fire was her first chakra element and her nature affinity. With this in mind try to imagine a picture (similar to Kishimoto's ninja physics that you often see in the manga) of a Human body with three basic elements on it's chest and hands, two advanced elements on top of the arms on the left and right sides and the advanced bloodline limit on top of the head forming an elemental chakra pyramid.


For example, in Mei's case (assuming/predicting that she actually has that advanced bloodline limit thing going on for her), Fire chakra would be on her chest (no sexual innuendos intended), Earth chakra would be on her right hand and Water chakra would be on her left hand. Then when she creates her advanced elements, Lava chakra would be on her right side and Boil chakra would be on her left side. Finally, an advanced bloodline limit which combines Lava and Boil chakra (or Earth, Fire and Water chakra) appears on top of Mei's elemental chakra pyramid. Something like this:

Earth
>-Lava
Fire >-Some kind of cool elemental combination of Lava and Boil
>-Boil
Water


Now for the other example, in Onoki's case, Wind chakra would be on his chest (if his pattern is any indication, Wind would probably be his first chakra element and his nature affinity), Earth chakra would be on his right hand and Fire chakra would be on his left. Then when he creates his advanced elements (depending on if my prediction even becomes a reality), an Earth/Wind chakra would be on his right side and a Wind/Fire chakra would be on his left side. Finally, Onoki's Dust Style (which is in fact Earth, Wind and Fire chakra all rapped up nicely together) will appear on top of his own elemental chakra pyramid. Something like this:

Earth
>-Some kind of advanced element that combines Earth and Wind
Wind >-Dust
>-Some kind of advanced element that combines Wind and Fire
Fire


Now, on with the chapter. I liked seeing all those Kages and I hope we get to see more of them (with the exceptions of the previous Hokages since they were sealed and stuff). I'm very curious about those Cloud Village twin brothers and how they got the Nine-Tails powers as well. I'm thinking the most likely case is they were some sort of pseudo-jinchuriki similar to that Sora guy from that filler arc and that Kishimoto may have helped the anime team by just giving them concepts to work with which he planed to use in the future of his manga. So Zetsu is planning to assassinate the Feudal Lords of the Five Great Shinobi Nations eh? That would be an interesting turn of events for the war. It would also be interesting if the Fifth Mizukage was at the Feudal Lords location for there protection since that could be an interesting battle between her and Zetsu. I believe that the Allied Shinobi Forces efforts will fail do to the fact that the Zetsu army isn't going down so easy.


Overall good chapter, looking forward to next week. happy.gif

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 03:41 AM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jan 28 2011, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It could have...but reports show that it was the disappearance of Suna's leader that triggered it.


Oh, must have forgotten that. I assume it was in the chapter where it's finally revealed that Sasori killed the Third Kazekage? That was five years before Naruto was born. So the Third War lasted from 5 years before Naruto was born until a few months before Naruto was born.
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 04:14 AM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jan 28 2011, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It could have...but reports show that it was the disappearance of Suna's leader that triggered it.


If you take notice, this current war is the first war that the nations are fighting in unity. Who is to say that the smaller nations won't take this chance to join Madara and take vengeance upon the larger ones.



Yes, Yes, and Double Yes. yes.gif


I guess I'm not the only one who wants to see the smaller nations join Madara's side and go up against the Allied Shinobi Forces. What would make it even better is if the Akatsuki and ninja villages of small countries where referred to as the Axis Shinobi Powers as to draw a parallel between the Fourth Great Shinobi World War and World War 2.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 04:48 AM

Hmm...that's not a bad idea. Considering Kishimoto takes inspirations from real-life events that rocked the world.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 07:17 AM

Things keep getting more interesting and twisted! Now Gaara, Neji, & Raikage will fight their fathers. Possibly battle of old lovers... So expect another battle with Tsuchikage heh?
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 05:01 AM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Jan 29 2011, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, on with the chapter. I liked seeing all those Kages and I hope we get to see more of them (with the exceptions of the previous Hokages since they were sealed and stuff). I'm very curious about those Cloud Village twin brothers and how they got the Nine-Tails powers as well. I'm thinking the most likely case is they were some sort of pseudo-jinchuriki similar to that Sora guy from that filler arc and that Kishimoto may have helped the anime team by just giving them concepts to work with which he planed to use in the future of his manga. So Zetsu is planning to assassinate the Feudal Lords of the Five Great Shinobi Nations eh? That would be an interesting turn of events for the war. It would also be interesting if the Fifth Mizukage was at the Feudal Lords location for there protection since that could be an interesting battle between her and Zetsu. I believe that the Allied Shinobi Forces efforts will fail do to the fact that the Zetsu army isn't going down so easy.


Overall good chapter, looking forward to next week. happy.gif


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Posted 31 January 2011 - 12:15 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jan 28 2011, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm...that's not a bad idea. Considering Kishimoto takes inspirations from real-life events that rocked the world.



So I'm guessing that you like this idea too? happy.gif


@Fox-And-Flower Well then I guess I'll purchase myself some Fox chakra for myself then! kruemelmonsteryn0.gif


Then use said Fox chakra to power my army of atomic super mutants which I will use to become supreme ruler of THE WORLD! mwahaha.gif

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 02:35 AM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Jan 31 2011, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I'm guessing that you like this idea too? happy.gif


@Fox-And-Flower Well then I guess I'll purchase myself some Fox chakra for myself then! kruemelmonsteryn0.gif


Then use said Fox chakra to power my army of atomic super mutants which I will use to become supreme ruler of THE WORLD! mwahaha.gif


haha! XD kittenin' cool.gif

anyone who's watched DBZ and remembered this part would understand why i said that XD i think... when vegeta saw that trunks and goten were now able to turn into super saiyans so young, he eventually mentionned something about the ultimate power becoming a child's play thing and a super saiyan bargain sale XD

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 11:12 PM

^ nice reference lol




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