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#1 Bail o' Lies

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Posted 20 November 2022 - 07:49 PM

Thank you Therece for showing everyone this chapter lost in views to the Sasuke chapter. Now I have to read it...geh.

 

​Summary Time: Chapter 75. The Domain of the Gods...sound pretentious who is ready for more Madoc exposition chapters.

 

The cover page is Moe colored in another of Ikemoto's eye searing color choices.

 

The chapter starts off with Madoc giving a summary of Hime (with an image that focuses very much on her legs) and Moe. Hime is 16, we now know that she is Sixteen, also her eye doesn't allow her to see backwards in time to before her birth. They also go into explaining Moe power again to remind people it isn't as broken as they initially introduced it, he went to reflecting all attacks to requiring him to touch the person for it to work, and he can punish people for having Killing Intent towards him regardless of distance. Madoc didn't give him these abilities he transferred to them from another bloody Kaguya's clan member named Shibai, who is thankfully dead already. Apparently, Shibai had eaten many of the chakra plant over the millennia and became a god. Oh, the Sleazy Inventor is also there to check if what he is saying possible, which has Madoc miffed at Shikamaru for not trusting him. Oh now we have a new form of jutsu everyone, Shinjutsu. To justify all the kitten powers Ikemoto going to give his character later on. The list so far is Hime's eye & attraction power, Moe's reflect power, the ability to create storms on a whim an example of Shibai's power, Nail/Jenga's shirking power, Punks' claw marks, the powers karma seal in general, as well as anything Kaguya did in Naruto, and I think personally Naruto temporary restorative power he had near the end of his manga. So, Shinjutsu the power of kitten, cop-outs, and asspulls. Apparently, Shinjutsu is the original power that ninjutsu is just trying to imitate. Gotta love when a writer of the sequel decides they are writing the true form or the true story. Shikamaru asked, 'if Corpse God-Shibai is a god, then how is he a corpse that Madoc extracted these abilities from?' Madoc guesses he was either killed or just ascended till he didn't need a physical form anymore. While Shikamaru and Madoc have this back and forth Naruto sit there uselessly. He experimented with these powers to bring his daughter back to life...with Mustard dropping down like that is it hinting that she is a copy of his daughter?

 

Mustard is here to see Hime because she is still under the affection power, she gets into an argument with Salad. Oh great, the clone is here, she turns Mustard off. Now she is here for any filler arc that have in this villa as well.

 

So, Madoc explains his experiments to revive his daughter, Akebi, and yes his daughter is Mustard not Hime. Guess they figured the Hime would be too obvious. He succeeded in resurrecting her but she lost her identity, and a nice shot of her legs so Ikemoto can get off while Madoc explains the tragedy. Guess Detla, Mustard's name was fourth clone because he apparently created a few clone trying to see if he could restore his daughter's personality. As Mustard had her memories but didn't act a thing like her, and he considered her not even human in a way. Then, that's when Madoc met Jenga at his lowest point, wait so he was experimenting with Otsutsuki power before meeting him? How? He worked with him as her promised to revive his daughter, Madoc turned against him once learning what the plan was, but during that time he learned a lot about the Karma seal. So, the reason he needed to give Nail a karma seal again was to keep experimenting in order to restore his daughter. The Karma seal Nail has is Madoc's Daughter personality seal. He wants Nail to transfer that data into one of his Mustard clones to revive his daughter. Shikamaru asks Hime to use her powers to confirm what Madoc said, they act like he is being a kitten, but I think he is being stupid because how can he trust her to tell the truth if he doesn't trust Madoc? They had three days to work out an agreement between the two of them, what if part of it was, "if this happens we back each other up?" Oh Great, Femmy here to talk to Bolt now, apparently due to their DNA mixing there thoughts are now mixing meaning they will eventually merge...and since Bolt is the protagonist he will come out on top. He states there is something off about what Madoc said. Apparently, according to Femmy what is off is that Hime's attraction power is not Shinjutsu. Oh Mustard is 24.

 

Bolt's right eye changed, the one he will eventually have a scar running over it, and he see the future. So this is probably to introduce the kitten eye the anime gave to him in the first arc, though that was something he naturally had, and this implies he got due to his merging with Femmy. Also, Phantom, here is your future eye you were guessing but Bolt has it. Oh right the vision, the villagers as well as Neo-Ino-Shika-Cho are chasing down Nail, Cups catches up to him and uses his sage mode, and Hime notices Bolt had this vision. You know, when Sasuke ran away from the village it was implied, if not outright stated, he was only able to do that because all the elite ninja were being overworked to restore Konoha's prestige. So, they could only send a newly minted chunin Shikamaru with four genin to bring him back. Else, if even only say Kakashi was free, Sasuke would have never escaped. Here, the entire village seems to be looking for Nail.

 

Oh good are we are finally heading to the end of this part of the story. Hopefully, before chapter 100.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 21 November 2022 - 12:50 AM.


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Posted 20 November 2022 - 08:25 PM

You know, for once, it feels like Ikemoto actually put in a bit of effort this chapter. Guessing those side manga outperforming him has either gotten him nervous or has people breathing down his neck. Since the reaction has been so far in both the US and Japan, "wow the art is better than in Boruto can they get these artists to replace Ikemoto?" Eventually, that is going to reach the ears of someone in the company and then they will start asking the same thing.

 

So, in a way I wish they did those side manga earlier if only to force Ikemoto to speed up. We might have been pass the time skip by now.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 20 November 2022 - 08:51 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2022 - 12:59 AM

About time we finished part one of this story. It was so booooring


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Posted 22 November 2022 - 03:48 AM

About time we finished part one of this story. It was so booooring

Its something. This has been the first chapter since chapter one that even has hinted at Boruto/Bolt Vs Kawaki/Nail conflict other then vague prophecies about Bolt's eyes and them fighting due to karma. From the looks of it, Kawaki isn't really down with the whole giving up his karma seal to restore Madoc's daughter. As he wants the power to fight Punk. He will resist. Injure Bolt if not kill Naruto this of course upset everyone, he flees the village, and he also fights Cups.

 

Just took us...75 chapters...75 months...6 years and three months to get some level of progress to the story.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 22 November 2022 - 04:15 AM.


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Posted 25 November 2022 - 05:59 AM

Looking forward to the confirmation or false alarm that Naruto is dead, at some point... well I just want to see what they do. Story wise the plot can't really sink further since they killed off Kurama, destroyed Sasuke's rinnegan and among other things, but if Naruto biting the dust is the final nail in the coffin, I will laugh very ironically.  because I will feel nothing :mellow:


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Posted 28 November 2022 - 09:27 PM

Ikemoto is writing this? I thought masashi took over

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Posted 28 November 2022 - 11:03 PM

Kishimoto is an even worse writer who simply road off of the previous 450 chapters' success after losing his original editor. The new writer took over after Naruto had basically been ridden into ground.🤣🤣🤣

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Posted 29 November 2022 - 12:07 AM

Ikemoto is writing this? I thought masashi took over

Its not stated that he is the writer just that he returned to Boruto. When he was a supervisor before.

 

At the start of the manga. Ikemoto was the artist and clearly the one in charge, Kodaichi was the script writer he take what Ikemoto wanted and make it work, and Kishimoto was a supervisor/advisor offering suggestions if asked.

 

Then Kishimoto left to do his own manga, that flopped despite big hype around it. Ikemoto was still the one drawing the story he likely was coming up with while Kodaichi wrote the script helping with the story.

 

Then Kodaichi was fired as he was blamed for the low sales of Boruto and apparently had a bad public image. So Ikemoto is now in charge of both the art and the writing; while Kishimoto offers advice and helps out once and a while. Even if kishimoto was the 'writer,' he is clearly leaving the story up to Ikemoto.

 

This how I understand how the three clowns worked on Boruto. So, the only way for any effort to be put into this manga is when Ikemoto puts in the effort. As both Kodaichi and Kishimoto own efforts have to be filter through him and his art. So, once two side manga immediately surpass his 6 year long story, its clear that he at least understand if someone has not outright told him, he in the hot seat now. So, therefore he is putting for a bit more effort than he usually does. The few times Boruto can be consider decent or effort being put into them is also because someone was likely lighting a fire under his seat. So, he put some effort to appease them then go back to his usual effort once they stop. 

 

Edit: Let me put it another way. Through out this entire manga, other then a few things here and there*, the feel of the story has remained the same. If Kishimoto was put in charge of the writing there would have been even slight changes, if not outright major ones. There hasn't any major long lasting change (granted outside of what Kodaichi added to the story*). The few times there were changes in the feel of the story, just seem to be Ikemoto putting in more effort because something is forcing him to until they stop.

 

*For example, once Kodaichi left Madoc wasn't as omnipresent anymore (or at least not to the level he was when kodaichi was around) and the story has stop relying on analogies like Byron mode is like nuclear fission and karma is data drive.

 

The one thing that has changed since Kishimoto came back is the reveals are less obvious. Such as before, literally the butler did it, Nail/Kawaki's existence, and Barbarian hair was a clone of Jiraiya. Then after, Kurama died instead of Naruto, Nail used a clone so he didn't get Jenga's karma, and the daughter was really Mustard not Hime.


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Posted 01 December 2022 - 02:31 AM

Got bored, look through reddit.

 

The manga thread is annoyed about Shinjutsu as it the clear new level of power creep and anyone that doesn't have it is now useless...which is everyone but Bolt and Nail. Some have gotten tired of Madoc yearly exposition chapters. And, they are trying to justify how Moe's power work.

 

Simple, Ikemoto made a broken power thinking it was cool but didn't put any limitation in place. Normally, when you give someone these sort of reflection powers you either make him physically weak so he can be restrained, but Ikemoto made him the strongest person to ever exist. Or, have abilities to capture him. Besides, Shikamaru's shadow bind the next thing would be seal, but no one in the cast actually uses seals. So he is unbeatable without kitten because how Ikemoto set it up. So they had to put some limitations while explain how he was able to harm people form a distance when he was introduced.

 

The Naruto thread seem happy its finally doing something. And wonder how Hime past seeing eye works and what Madoc is still hiding. As questing why didn't he just try edo tensei.

 

In the Boruto thread. The one with the lowest standard and even they know this is the first chapter where the plot actually has moved forward instead of spinning its wheels. Some point out that femmy has basically become Bolt's Kurama now.


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Posted 01 December 2022 - 10:59 PM

I mean you are assuming that kishimoto isn't actually writing it but i still will credit kishimoto since he is credited with writing it and ikemoto is credited with the art (but it's a good theory since the writing is 💩)

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Posted 01 December 2022 - 11:08 PM

Not even sure why naruto fans want this sequel when kishimoto is on record multiple times clearly wanting nothing to do with it... But that's just my perspective

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Posted 02 December 2022 - 02:21 AM

I mean you are assuming that kishimoto isn't actually writing it but i still will credit kishimoto since he is credited with writing it and ikemoto is credited with the art (but it's a good theory since the writing is )

...Where does it say kishimoto is the writer? The cover page of this very chapter says he is the creator/supervisor, of course it also says Ikemoto is the artist, but no one is listed as the writer. Which means its likely one of those two. It was never said he was returning as the writer people just hoped/assumed that. But again even if he was the writer, the story has not changed which means Ikemoto is still the one coming up with it and kishimoto would just be writing the script while suggesting ideas here and there. The story has to come from Ikemoto because he is the one constantly there. If he had just 'returned' then he is again just a supervisor.

 

Not even sure why naruto fans want this sequel when kishimoto is on record multiple times clearly wanting nothing to do with it... But that's just my perspective

Because nH and SS were a last minute pairings they didn't get many romantic scenes as they would've wanted. Also, since they won over the dreaded NS, they wanted more story to prove the superiority of nH/SS. Of course, the person in charge of writing up those scenarios doesn't get the appeal of their pairings.


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Posted 02 December 2022 - 03:58 AM

Got bored, look through reddit.

 

The manga thread is annoyed about Shinjutsu as it the clear new level of power creep and anyone that doesn't have it is now useless...which is everyone but Bolt and Nail. Some have gotten tired of Madoc yearly exposition chapters. And, they are trying to justify how Moe's power work.

 

Simple, Ikemoto made a broken power thinking it was cool but didn't put any limitation in place. Normally, when you give someone these sort of reflection powers you either make him physically weak so he can be restrained, but Ikemoto made him the strongest person to ever exist. Or, have abilities to capture him. Besides, Shikamaru's shadow bind the next thing would be seal, but no one in the cast actually uses seals. So he is unbeatable without kitten because how Ikemoto set it up. So they had to put some limitations while explain how he was able to harm people form a distance when he was introduced.

 

The Naruto thread seem happy its finally doing something. And wonder how Hime past seeing eye works and what Madoc is still hiding. As questing why didn't he just try edo tensei.

 

In the Boruto thread. The one with the lowest standard and even they know this is the first chapter where the plot actually has moved forward instead of spinning its wheels. Some point out that femmy has basically become Bolt's Kurama now.

 

I know I mentioned this before, but I will mention it again: They didn't need to engage in ANY of this power creep. They could have left Naruto and Sasuke as being nightmarishly stronger than anyone else and still have made a good story that scaled to street level threats/dangers. Bring the series back to the roots it established in the Zabaza arc and work our way up from there. 

 

 

...Where does it say kishimoto is the writer? The cover page of this very chapter says he is the creator/supervisor, of course it also says Ikemoto is the artist, but no one is listed as the writer. Which means its likely one of those two. It was never said he was returning as the writer people just hoped/assumed that. But again even if he was the writer, the story has not changed which means Ikemoto is still the one coming up with it and kishimoto would just be writing the script while suggesting ideas here and there. The story has to come from Ikemoto because he is the one constantly there. If he had just 'returned' then he is again just a supervisor.

 

Because nH and SS were a last minute pairings they didn't get many romantic scenes as they would want. Also, since they won of the dreaded NS they wanted more story to prove the superiority of nH/SS. Of course, the person in charge of writing up those scenarios doesn't get the appeal of their pairings.

 

And I've said this before too, but they didn't even need to make NH/SS canon to satisfy the remnant of nH/SS fans. Multiverse this kitten. Hell, use the diablos ex machina nature of the kaguya fight to establish that there are alternate time lines. Make everybody happy and show versions of events where NS/NH/SS occur. Would it have really been that bad to follow up on a relationship you spent most of the show developing (so-called red herrings be damned)?

 

Hell, make Boruto a time traveling shinobi trying to fix a catastrophic event that is going to destroy all of the timelines and make the premise of the show having him and Sasuke bounce around timelines trying to fix things and avoid a colossal incoming disaster (which would also be a great way to let us explore events prior the series in a way that is not hamfisted such as what we saw in the war arc). Maybe that's the reason Sasuke spends so much of his time alone to the point where he cannot even spend with his family. Maybe that's the reason Naruto does not have time to spend with his family despite having shadow clones? There are so many ways Boruto could have had a good story, but they put what could have been the flagship of shounen manga in the hands of a man with the imagination of a freaking potato! I swear! Naruto is the Darth Vader of anime/manga. Infinite potential SQUANDERED because of poor decision making. Now all we have left is a but a mere shell of what could have been. Such a pity. 


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Posted 04 December 2022 - 05:42 AM

 

I know I mentioned this before, but I will mention it again: They didn't need to engage in ANY of this power creep. They could have left Naruto and Sasuke as being nightmarishly stronger than anyone else and still have made a good story that scaled to street level threats/dangers. Bring the series back to the roots it established in the Zabaza arc and work our way up from there. 

 

If they were going to introduce "stronger enemies  that are out of Naruto and Sasuke's league" in the first place I fail to see he point of it. It wasn't necessary to kill off Kurama. It wasn't necessary to rob Sasuke of his Rinnegan powers. They needed those more than ever if anything. Forget handling power scaling properly, they don't even know what are good power scaling elements in a half way decent story. This is just beyond incompetency. That is if they were NOT overhyping and hyperbolizing the villains and their powers at all. 


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Posted 05 December 2022 - 06:35 PM

If they were going to introduce "stronger enemies  that are out of Naruto and Sasuke's league" in the first place I fail to see he point of it in the first place. It wasn't necessary to kill off Kurama. It wasn't necessary to rob Sasuke of his Rinnegan powers. They needed those more than ever if anything. Forget handling power scaling properly, they don't even know what are good power scaling elements in a half way decent story. This is just beyond incompetency. That is if they were NOT overhyping and hyperboling the villains and their powers at all at all 

I'm split between two possible reason for why they did it.

 

One) Drama. He wants the fights that Bolt and Nail have to be epic, and doesn't want people in the back of their minds thinking, "oh no Boruto is in trouble, Naruto should come in a save him by defeating his foe in a single blow." Oh course this is a bad idea since. This is a sequel to Naruto fans are used to the kid ninja fighting some apprentice while some adult fights the big bad, and Boruto shouldn't be until his time skip. Also this limits the range of people you can have fighting. Naruto and Sasuke were already the world's strongest men, if they are useless, then most of the world is. Leaving Nail and Bolt to fight Otsutsuki aliens and any cyborgs Madoc's has stash away somewhere, because those are the only ones that possess shinjutsu, the new tier of power that no one beneath it can match.

 

Two) Spite. Ikemoto may be bitter towards Kishimoto. So he may want to drag down Kishi's characters so it be easier for his to shine. Also why he decides to rehash SNS because he wants to prove he can write better than Kishi. Problem is that many mangaka of the current manga scene grew up with Naruto and have added their own; how they would tell their Naruto inspired story better than Naruto was told: MHA, Black Clover, Jujutsu Kaisen, and Chainsaw man off the top of my head. And, all of them are better written than Boruto.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 12 December 2022 - 12:27 AM.





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