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[hinataiscreepy]

The pain arc should have been the ending of the series.

 

There was a sense of closure with Naruto being acknowleged by the village and getting a hug from Sakura. Hinata's expression implied that she started shipping shipping them. She did not even feel remotely sad. God she actually seemed happy for him getting the girl and could live with it. The "breaking Hinata's heart" reason is bullcrap of the highest order.

[tricksie]

 

Yeah the more I see think about the last chapter the more I wonder if Kishi is expressing his own dislike for the end. The Sake bottle to show him going against his mothers words, same with the Tubs of Ramen, and his own child being upset, then we have no scenes with the main pairings not even seen in the same panel together.

 

Then I just think I'm thinking too much and he's just a bad writer who wanted to set the stage for a part three with kids a sad upbringing.

 

Yes, it's telling in the manga that the last we see of old Naruto, his last words are "Thank you, Sakura-chan" which is manga-code for "I love you." It's like the reverse of the Pain hug between them. Sakura calls him baka and tells him he's always being rash, and then Naruto has his one and only "I love you" moment with the "Thank you, Sakura-chan."

 

I have wondered if this wasn't a way of bringing Sakura and Naruto's story full circle. Because the next parts are from Sasuke's pov, and then the next we see it is new Naruto. And the new Naruto is nothing like shippuden Naruto. Might as well have ended the series and given him a different name. He's not the same character. At all. 

 

And yeah, there is nothing with them romantically together. Nothing. And even the moment between Sakura and Sasuke, where he flicks her forehead, could be taken as a family-type thing. Especially after his flashback scene seeing Naruto and Sakura as family. The ending is completely ambiguous.

 

But anyway, I too think he's just a bad writer and a sexist, and he's just setting up a sad backstory for the part three kids. Some part of me wants to think that he made Sakura and Naruto's story come full circle, but he's coming off as such an ass in the interviews, now I think it might have just been luck instead of intentional writing.

 

I suppose I should be grateful Naruto didn't say "I love HInata-chan" or "Bring me my red scarf" instead of "Thank you Sakura-chan."

 

But for me, the manga ended on those words. 

[Suigetsu]

Hinata, always Hinata...
Sigh...
They only care about Hinata but dont give a damn about no one else.

Edited by Suigetsu, 21 November 2014 - 02:41 AM.

[Tiller]

Once I learn how to draw I'm going to make a picture where Naruto burns that stupid scarf.

Edited by Tiller, 21 November 2014 - 02:40 AM.

[Suigetsu]

The pain arc should have been the ending of the series.

 

There was a sense of closure with Naruto being acknowleged by the village and getting a hug from Sakura. Hinata's expression implied that she started shipping shipping them. She did not even feel remotely sad. God she actually seemed happy for him getting the girl and could live with it. The "breaking Hinata's heart" reason is bullcrap of the highest order.

Yeah, I tought the very same thing.

 

And scarf of destiny? give me a break... wasnt part 1 about not being bounded by destinies and make your own future?

Edited by Suigetsu, 21 November 2014 - 02:41 AM.

[Super Boom]

I posted this on another forum when the manga ended, but I was hoping that the ending Kishi came up with was something he did at the very last minute. Either just cause he wanted to end it, or wanted to create an opening for Naruto GT, and needed a bunch of random kids. It wouldn't make me happier, and it wouldn't change my opinion on his writing ability...but at least I could take solace in the fact that the man could still be a somewhat decent human being.

 

I certainly can't say that anymore. 

[archangel]

In order word, Hinata kill this series. That should sums it up.

[hinataiscreepy]

Yeah, I tought the very same thing.

 

And scarf of destiny? give me a break... wasnt part 1 about not being bounded by destinies and make your own future?

 

Her expression doesn't lie and she does not seem mentally broken at all.

 

Where the eff did the scarf come from ? Are we like in the same situation of star wars prequel where every bs and plotholes are answered in the effing expanded universe ? Kishi is just as bad story teller as lucas and especially the romance.

 

We should make a dating chart a la Plinkett to see how Sasuke has "won" Sakura's heart.

Edited by hinataiscreepy, 21 November 2014 - 02:49 AM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

In order word, Hinata kill this series. That should sums it up.

Now I wished she died instead of Neji.

[Tiller]

Now I wished she died instead of Neji.

Neji had to die so Hinata could get screen time with Naruto.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Neji had to die so Hinata could get screen time with Naruto.

But Neji is a better character.

[rocci]

In order word, Hinata kill this series. That should sums it up.

Sasuke and Hinata. I can't believe I will say that lol.

[harry4e]

Yeah, I tought the very same thing.

 

And scarf of destiny? give me a break... wasnt part 1 about not being bounded by destinies and make your own future?

 

Yeah and wasn't part two all about a Child of Destiny fulfilling his destined past? Or more specifically post Jiraiya's death.

[rocci]

 
Her expression doesn't lie and she does not seem mentally broken at all.
 
Where the eff did the scarf come from ? Are we like in the same situation of star wars prequel where every bs and plotholes are answered in the effing expanded universe ? Kishi is just as bad story teller as lucas and especially the romance.
 
We should make a dating chart a la Plinkett to see how Sasuke has "won" Sakura's heart.

I stand on my word. Hinata is in the disbelief when sakura hug naruto.
And Lucas romance is way better than naruto.

[hinataiscreepy]

Speaking of Neji, let's face it his death was clearly a rip off from an important death in One Piece its too obvious. Kishi clearly stated that One piece was ahead of him and the rest. It seems plausible he would try to imitate Oda.

 

I don't think Neji was meant to die... obviously. It was hinted in his flashback that he found Hinata attractive. Japanes are cool with cousin effing each others and hooking up. When I think about it... it makes perfect sense. Hinata and Neji leading their cland and uniting would have in some way resolve the curse family. Mixing their bloods would have completely freed Neji from the curse. They probably would have forsaken this tradition as well. That should have been their ending and maybe Hinata spending her last moments of the manga with Neji is Kishi's hint that this was not the ending he intended.

 

@rocci When I think about it, Lucas is actually better cause Anakin and Padme had at least some kind of development to make it plausible

Edited by hinataiscreepy, 21 November 2014 - 03:10 AM.

[archangel]

Sasuke and Hinata. I can't believe I will say that lol.

Hinata alone. Without her, Sakura doesn't break the heart of anybody by going with Naruto. Meaning NS happen, Sasuke end up hobo but acknowledge her without magically falling for her. Karin could have existed in the epilogue, so his taka. Movie wouldn't be around Hinata, it could have a better story (not just around explaining sh*tty romance since NS has development)

 

Her alone kills it. SS happening is an aftermath of NH. Though Sasuke could have been less important in 699, I believe Hinata do most damage since she kill the ending and influence the ongoing of the series from here.

Edited by archangel, 21 November 2014 - 03:17 AM.

[Moon_Girl]

Top two things to ruin Naruto:

1. Kishimoto

2. Hinata

 

Seriously. I've seen some horrible writers. I've said it once and I'll say it again. Naruto is, indeed, in terms of romance, the Twilight of the anime/manga world. Any and all respect I had for Kishimoto is now gone. He is a sexist moron. Even without sexism, common sense dictates the fact that: someone trying to kill you = you should not be in love with them.

People are trying to get it through the world's head that girls cannot save their abusers and they should try because it puts their LIVES in DANGER. Great message. Give up and stick with your abusers. Also, only women are horrible, horrible people if they fall for someone else. MEN CAN JUST LOVE WHATEVER AND WHOMEVER THEY WANT WITH NO BACKLASH AT ALLLLLL.

 

I hope the rest of your career fails, Kishimoto. I hope the Naruto series seriously dies and you lose a ton of money. I hope it happens before the Last comes out. I hope the movie becomes the biggest failure in history. I hope you have a daughter who is placed in Sakura's situation and then you can see the horrible mistake you've made.

 

Gad...I'm just...super, super pis**d. Like crazy. This is the most horrible excuse I have -ever- heard. I hope the fans in Japan are just as mad as we are.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Neji had to die so Hinata could get screen time with Naruto.

 

Ugh, don't remind me... It still aggravates me thinking about it. Sacrificing one of his good characters for one of his weakest.

Edited by CloudMountainJuror, 21 November 2014 - 03:30 AM.

[Kamina-Yoshi]

And Naruto is a terrible man.

He's also a terrible woman.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Kishi is more sexist than everyone on that Doomsday movie.