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#11021 AnimeGirl_123

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:59 AM

It means that the movie equals to the chapter 699,5, meaning that the story of The Last is placed between 699 and 700. That's to say if The Last was a chapter and not a movie it would be 699,5. LOL Was I clear (I think I wasn't)?

In other words it's completely canon and more canon than RTN.... lol... wow.

But this is a poster or an ad or a cover to something?


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#11022 咲耶姫

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:02 AM

In other words it's completely canon and more canon than RTN.... lol... wow.

But this is a poster or an ad or a cover to something?

Exactly, that's what I was saying since the beginning, it's more canon than RTN. And now the IT theory is completely crushed since it's just a contiunation of 699 before coming to 700. Though I'm sure no one wil agree on that. 

 

No idea. I suppose it's a poster they pinned in theaters to announced what movie will be released when (here Naruto on the 6th of December). 


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:11 AM

Exactly, that's what I was saying since the beginning, it's more canon than RTN. And now the IT theory is completely crushed since it's just a contiunation of 699 before coming to 700. Though I'm sure no one wil agree on that. 

 

No idea. I suppose it's a poster they pinned in theaters to announced what movie will be released when (here Naruto on the 6th of December). 

I agree with you dont worry. the manga is over... there is no point in denying it anymore. 

a genjutsu makes no sense at all.  I know this image was posted on the official facebook and twitter, so it's legit that we should think of the last as 699.5 >_>


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:23 AM

Guys...I just realized!! Maybe Kishimoto chose the NH/SS ending because having two sets of kids would've been better for the crappy spin-offs than one (NaruSaku). He wanted Naruto and Sasuke to each have a kid but they couldn't both bone Sakura...so he threw Hinata in the mix to please fans.
Another one-up that the fanservice ending had over the healthier one.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:25 AM

I'm really sick of hearing people say that NH was always going to be the end pairing because "Kishimoto knew how he would end it years ago". Seriously taking it out of context. He was referring to Naruto/Sasuke battle. 


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:26 AM

I'm really sick of hearing people say that NH was always going to be the end pairing because "Kishimoto knew how he would end it years ago". Seriously taking it out of context. He was referring to Naruto/Sasuke battle. 

Agreed. Really, everything else is something you really need to ask him and maybe just maybe we will never know.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:33 AM

Guys...I just realized!! Maybe Kishimoto chose the NH/SS ending because having two sets of kids would've been better for the crappy spin-offs than one (NaruSaku). He wanted Naruto and Sasuke to each have a kid but they couldn't both bone Sakura...so he threw Hinata in the mix to please fans.
Another one-up that the fanservice ending had over the healthier one.

It's a bad argument... SK was as possible as NH in my eyes. 

He would have done SK/NS they also would have both a child. 


Edited by 咲耶姫, 10 November 2014 - 05:34 AM.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:36 AM

Kishimoto DID NOT always have NH planned. The proof is that he's making this filler movie in order to make up for development not in the manga.
He probably never had a sure pairing in mind (that much is obvious) but played around with the idea of making NaruSaku canon (explaining the meaningless romantic development the couple received). He probably did the whole thing just to cause drama in Shippuden. He was always going to go with the people-pleaser ending..via NH/SS.
What a heartless assh*le.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:37 AM

Kishimoto DID NOT always have NH planned. The proof is that he's making this filler movie in order to make up for development not in the manga.
He probably never had a sure pairing in mind (that much is obvious) but played around with the idea of making NaruSaku canon (explaining the meaningless romantic development the couple received). He probably did the whole thing just to cause drama in Shippuden. He was always going to go with the people-pleaser ending..via NH/SS.
What a heartless assh*le.

Yeah, this is definitely the case.



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:48 AM

(2006 interview)

 

Shonen Jump: Oda-sensei says he knows how One Piece will end---do you know how Naruto will end?

 

Masashi Kishimoto: Yes, I have the last episode clearly drawn in my mind. I've already decided on the layout, text, and scenes. Not just the story ideas, but the visual ideas are solid.
All I have to do is just head toward the ending I have, but there are still so many things that need to be resolved before reaching that point. Maybe I have thrown in too many ideas, so I need to wrap them up neatly.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:55 AM

 

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Main title of the picture: "Establishment/task of all the loves, in The Last it is dedicated to this way of ninja."

 

A better translation but a little far away from the original text: "The Last is dedicated to the way of ninja by taking care of every love."

 

Little sentences: 

 

The Last is not the end, it's an introduction to a new way/road.

 

Thank you! Ninpô - Dai.... no jutsu

 

Naruto's my hero!

 

Naruto is a textbook for life!

 

During 15 yars, we all grew up together!

Looking at that it seems like every love will be adressed, meaning that NS will also be resolved. That will be our last NS moment with romantic undertone coming from Naruto, so we should treasuer it, no? LOL And maybe we'll also get some Chôji/Karui in the movie. 


Edited by 咲耶姫, 10 November 2014 - 06:03 AM.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 06:07 AM

Looking at that it seems like every love will be adressed, meaning that NS will also be resolved. That will be our last NS moment with romantic undertone coming from Naruto, so we should treasuer it, no? LOL And maybe we'll also get some Chôji/Karui in the movie. 

 

Those potential Naruto and Sakura interaction are the only incentives we as dedicated NS fans would have any interest in this movie. You want to place the emphasis on love and relationships? Very well. But don't expect a heavy attendance of the fans whom you spurned with this inane decision. 



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 06:09 AM

"Taking care of every love"? Am I supposed to be happy for being thrown a bone or something? Just have the balls to make one couple canon and stick with it--not toss fanservice and consolation moments around like confetti.
Ugh...this lack of inconsistency and true love makes me sick. >.>

Edited by Aizen-Sama, 10 November 2014 - 06:11 AM.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 06:13 AM

Looking at that it seems like every love will be adressed, meaning that NS will also be resolved. That will be our last NS moment with romantic undertone coming from Naruto, so we should treasuer it, no? LOL And maybe we'll also get some Chôji/Karui in the movie. 

 

Just thinking about how NS interaction will be in the movie makes me really sad. I don't even want to bother with this movie, even if there are some NS because it will look wrong after not seeing anything in the ending of the manga...I mean my god, they look like strangers for god's sake.



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 06:14 AM

lmao at ''taking care of every love''

 

You know when a side character's love will prevail over the main character's youve gone full retard.



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 06:20 AM

Getting thrown a bone doesn't increase my excitement for this movie . I don't think I will be watching it still


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 06:22 AM

Looking at that it seems like every love will be adressed, meaning that NS will also be resolved. That will be our last NS moment with romantic undertone coming from Naruto, so we should treasuer it, no? LOL And maybe we'll also get some Chôji/Karui in the movie.

yeah, kishi can shove his movie up his ass. No one cares about a Ns resolution with a a ruined part 1 fangirl sakura. I cant wait for the SS moments in this movie, its going to be comedy gold.
This asspull movie is really the biggest insult to naruto fans, to see that Kishi needs a movie to make NH even a little believeable if thats even possible.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 06:37 AM

Getting thrown a bone doesn't increase my excitement for this movie . I don't think I will be watching it still

Yeah it's like..I don't want your pity party-- I want my kittening OTP canon. xD
I cannot bear to watch Naruto and Sakura's interactions (if they get any). Either they'll pretend Naruto's love doesn't exist or they'll kill it in some horrible "we're just friends" way.

Edited by Aizen-Sama, 10 November 2014 - 06:38 AM.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 07:06 AM

I love people who suddenly change their opinions and now believe Kishi always had these pairings in mind when one of them involved physical and emotional abuse of all kind and the other interacted no more than 6 times in a 700 chapter manga. If and that's a big if Kishi really intented for these pairings to be endgame since the beginning then it just shows how awful of a writer he is and there's no excuse especially when the pairing that supposedly wasnt intented has more meaningful moments, hints, foreshadowing parallels and development than the 2 other pairings combined, makes perfect sense.
Sorry if I dont buy this crap.

Edited by Awes9, 10 November 2014 - 07:08 AM.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 07:12 AM

I love people who suddenly change their opinions and now believe Kishi always had these pairings in mind when one of them involved physical and emotional abuse of all kind and the other interacted no more than 6 times in a 700 chapter manga. If and that's a big if Kishi really intented for these pairings to be endgame since the beginning then it just shows how awful of a writer he is and there's no excuse especially when the pairing that supposedly wasnt intented has more meaningful moments, hints, foreshadowing parallels and development than the 2 other pairings combined, makes perfect sense.
Sorry if I dont buy this crap.


I don't know what to believe anymore... I want to think that Kishimoto is the good writer he's been 600+ chapters ago and always planned for NaruSaku to happen...but this latest random BS points to the opposite.




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