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[Tiller]

 

I think so too I mean we did see the cover of 'THE REST' and I think some pages here and there about NH's dates so yeah, more NH and mostly even SS too.

 

 

In the end, more BS lol

 

[Iwantbuns]

If we got NaruSaku stuff how would you guys react?

[Gravenimage]

If Kishimoto does such thing I'll be more p*ssed at him. Anyway it will be consider trolling because he made NH/SS canon. I won't read the new chapters like I said I'm done with the manga and Kishimoto.

[questdrivencollie]

Takl over at NF confirmed that we will get 2 new chapters (19 pages each) added to the Takabon release. So not a replacement, but an addition.

Am I wrong to hope that these chapters provide some actual closure on the things that the final chapter failed to? I don't expect it to change the pairing or anything, just hoping it'll address the other things that were wrong with the ending. Because it was so much more than pairings.

 

Though at this point, I suppose it'd too late for any such attempt to do much good. It won't undo the damage that was done, especially to the characters.

[Suigetsu]

I feel not. No author has ever redone their ending, no matter horrible or how much they regret it. As far as I know at least. And I'm also done with Naruto. First opportunity, I'm selling my volumes.

Yukito Kishiro and Battle Angel want to say Hi to you.

He was unsatisfied witho how he ended his manga so he made a continuation and changed the ending. It was like a million times better.
Also the author from shaman king changed it.

[Serenity Namikaze]

If Kishimoto does such thing I'll be more p*ssed at him. Anyway it will be consider trolling because he made NH/SS canon. I won't read the new chapters like I said I'm done with the manga and Kishimoto.

 

Same here. I don't want him to get close to NaruSaku ever again, he did enough damage as it is and I would feel like we won the silver medal and unlike Hinata, I don't accept pity love.

[Narufan85]

If it's more NH and SS stuff I will stay far, far away.

[archangel]

 

Same here. I don't want him to get close to NaruSaku ever again, he did enough damage as it is and I would feel like we won the silver medal and unlike Hinata, I don't accept pity love.

I disagree with you. If he redo the ending and make it Narusaku, I won't take it as a silver medal. Because the whole story develop about it, it was the logical ending. Making NH canon, then have outside media (other than the manga) like filler and a movie that recton the story to make it more believable, that is pity love ( especially since he admit it in a interview that he has pity for Hinata).

NS was the ending that was clearly plan, making an ending for them is no silver medal, I'll see it as an attempt to repair his story ( plus it might change and explain other thing like Taka whereabout, since Karin doesn't have to disappear out of convenience.) 

[Gravenimage]

archangel@ I hope your right but I don't see Kishimoto going to the trouble of doing NS after the damage he did. So what if he did? He's going to leave NH/SS with the same WTF expression we had. I swear if he makes NS canon it will prove my point that he's nothing but a greedy bastard who wants to mess with the fans. He's like" I know what to do I'll make NH/SS canon gain lots of money for it, then make a NH movie s gaining more money especially from the western countries. And then I'll make NS canon and make more money from that, I don't care about the fans just give me more money"

[Serenity Namikaze]

I disagree with you. If he redo the ending and make it Narusaku, I won't take it as a silver medal. Because the whole story develop about it, it was the logical ending. Making NH canon, then have outside media (other than the manga) like filler and a movie that recton the story to make it more believable, that is pity love ( especially since he admit it in a interview that he has pity for Hinata).

NS was the ending that was clearly plan, making an ending for them is no silver medal, I'll see it as an attempt to repair his story ( plus it might change and explain other thing like Taka whereabout, since Karin doesn't have to disappear out of convenience.) 

 

You have the right to disagree however I won't change my mind about my feelings if he ever change the ending because yes, like you said, the manga support NaruSaku in every way but after what he said in all his interviews, it's clear that Kishimoto doesn't give a rat ass about his story anymore and certainly doesn't care about his own hero and heroine and his characters in general. Changing the ending after everything he said will make NaruSaku the silver medal in a way, no matter how you think. Maybe after a while, if Kishimoto have some miracle revelation that his ending really was bad and contradict everything he did ( I still don't think he's aware of how bad he damages his manga but that's only my opinion) and say that he realize his mistake and maybe just maybe decide to change the ending, maybe I'll forgive him but I certainly will not forget every disgusting statement he made regarding Sakura and how much he damaged Naruto the character, both characters that I really loved dearly but again, I highly doubt he will change anything or he will say how much he doesn't like the ending.

[Nami]

If we got NaruSaku stuff how would you guys react?

 

I'd laugh because that would prove to me that he's the ultimate money-whore. But would I be happy? Yes. I'm just that weak and such a sucked for NS.  Is it possible to be pissed, happy and disgusted with oneself at the same time? We shall see.

[TheBestUsernameEver]

I don't think we'll get anything NS in the near future or frankly ever in the canon story line.

Everybody associated with Naruto-the-business is trying so hard to drive home the fact that NH and SS are canon. All the promotional material for the future projects have such a huge emphasis on these pairings its ridiculous. Since when did romance become the focal point of the manga? SJ,SP everyone is trying so hard to get people to accept these pairing. They are tackling anything which threatens these pairings especially Nh.People start asking questions about the Ns Mk parallel, an interview comes out with Kishimoney himself stating that those parallels were meant to mislead the fans. The movie starts getting bad reviews they release a poster saying that the movie is "critically acclaimed".

Moreover they are ACTIVELY trying to purge NS out of our minds. Deliberately undermining all the canon Ns moments by making Sakura the ultimate Nh cheerleader. They can't even be shown standing together now.

In almost all promotional media Naruto and Sakura have been shown together standing side by side.(At least when both are being featured) Yet the latest poster shows Naruto with Hinata and Sakura with Sasuke. In all of shippuden when has this ever been the case? Nh has got just one freaking volume cover to boast about and Ss chapter 685 colour spread. And that's it.THAT IS IT. They are trying to fit Hinata into everything to compensate for the lack of her relevance in the manga for the last 15 years. And it is understandable because she is going to be an important face in part 3. She is going to be the Hokage's wife and the new hero' s mother.

When did pairings become so important? After the announcement of The Last. Why are we getting so much on Nh and Ss families?For the promotion of the nextgen series.

SP and SJ have decided that this the route they are going to take.And its too late for them to go back imo.They have to stick with these pairings. If they now throw a bone to NS fans their canon pairings lose credibility.They already don't have much to begin with. I don't think they will risk alienating the new fans for their future projects by reinforcing NS. As such they have already lost Ns fans. And they HAVE to be aware about this. They're trying to win us back by airing RTN again.But we are no longer that important. They were already prepared to let us go when they started with The Last. We simply just aren't important enough for them imo.Both SJ and SP have a lot riding on the fans of SS and Nh. They simply can't risk losing them.

So...No I don't think we'll get anything NS. Not even a small hi between the two because Naruto's ' Sakura-chan' is enough to undermine half of The Last movie. It really sucks to be us right now.

[soshi]

I don't think we'll get anything NS in the near future or frankly ever in the canon story line.

Everybody associated with Naruto-the-business is trying so hard to drive home the fact that NH and SS are canon. All the promotional material for the future projects have such a huge emphasis on these pairings its ridiculous. Since when did romance become the focal point of the manga? SJ,SP everyone is trying so hard to get people to accept these pairing. They are tackling anything which threatens these pairings especially Nh.People start asking questions about the Ns Mk parallel, an interview comes out with Kishimoney himself stating that those parallels were meant to mislead the fans. The movie starts getting bad reviews they release a poster saying that the movie is "critically acclaimed".

Moreover they are ACTIVELY trying to purge NS out of our minds. Deliberately undermining all the canon Ns moments by making Sakura the ultimate Nh cheerleader. They can't even be shown standing together now.

In almost all promotional media Naruto and Sakura have been shown together standing side by side.(At least when both are being featured) Yet the latest poster shows Naruto with Hinata and Sakura with Sasuke. In all of shippuden when has this ever been the case? Nh has got just one freaking volume cover to boast about and Ss chapter 685 colour spread. And that's it.THAT IS IT. They are trying to fit Hinata into everything to compensate for the lack of her relevance in the manga for the last 15 years. And it is understandable because she is going to be an important face in part 3. She is going to be the Hokage's wife and the new hero' s mother.

When did pairings become so important? After the announcement of The Last. Why are we getting so much on Nh and Ss families?For the promotion of the nextgen series.

SP and SJ have decided that this the route they are going to take.And its too late for them to go back imo.They have to stick with these pairings. If they now throw a bone to NS fans their  lose credibility.They already don't have much to begin with. I don't think they will risk alienating the new fans for their future projects by reinforcing NS. As such they have already lost Ns fans. And they HAVE to be aware about this. They're trying to win us back by airing RTN again.But we are no longer that important. They were already prepared to let us go when they started with The Last. We simply just aren't important enough for them imo.Both SJ and SP have a lot riding on the fans of SS and Nh. They simply can't risk losing them.

So...No I don't think we'll get anything NS. Not even a small hi between the two because Naruto's ' Sakura-chan' is enough to undermine half of The Last movie. It really sucks to be us right now.

well kittenimoto can go to kitten himself for me NS is and will remain the canon pairings and whenever I get a chance in the coming years i well  say how stupid and sell out autor kittenimoto can be

[questdrivencollie]

So, when are these chapters coming?

 

If it's all about NH or all about Bolt, I won't read them. But if they try to answer some of the plot points that 700 missed, I'll read them.

[archangel]

 

You have the right to disagree however I won't change my mind about my feelings if he ever change the ending because yes, like you said, the manga support NaruSaku in every way but after what he said in all his interviews, it's clear that Kishimoto doesn't give a rat ass about his story anymore and certainly doesn't care about his own hero and heroine and his characters in general. Changing the ending after everything he said will make NaruSaku the silver medal in a way, no matter how you think. Maybe after a while, if Kishimoto have some miracle revelation that his ending really was bad and contradict everything he did ( I still don't think he's aware of how bad he damages his manga but that's only my opinion) and say that he realize his mistake and maybe just maybe decide to change the ending, maybe I'll forgive him but I certainly will not forget every disgusting statement he made regarding Sakura and how much he damaged Naruto the character, both characters that I really loved dearly but again, I highly doubt he will change anything or he will say how much he doesn't like the ending.

So we agree to disagree :).  I don't really see NS as a silver medal if he redo the ending no matter what.

I don't believe we will have an alternate ending anyway unless their whole new "naruto" project flop. Where is Kishi in this scenario to make an alternate ending? I see 3 path, 2 where we've got a alternate ending.

Status quo : MOST LIKELY, like you said, he don't give a kitten anymore. So let's forget this one and check the others.

 

path 1 (which I believe let's say in 85% more plausible): That ending was forced to him by someone else, editor, SP name it. On july, Kishi will work on other project, meaning the part 3 will not even have him implicate. That explain a bit the sell out. However, what might happen in this scenario is that he want the project to fail, and redo his ending in maybe 5 to 10 years, you know, when we don't care anymore. It might go the DBZ route, where the new movie don't acknowledge GT existence, maybe we'll have that latter.  

Path 2 : He actually did it on he own free will. That I can believe because all those interview made his work and even himself look like a dumbass. I can't believe someone will be that stupid. If he did an alternate ending in this scenario, it's after realization that he was high or drunk as hell when he did that ending. I mean let's resume.

I've plan Naruhina since Shippuden beginning (meaning you have like a hell of a time to develop it) .

Sakura and Naruto love each other at one point, but I didn't want Sakura to be cruel to Hinata ( think about how many this one pissed off)

Narusaku development like Kushina comparaison was a red herring.

I've forget to put the Byakugan on Naruto's children ( really, you forgot)

Check the ending of the war arc ( obito, madara, black zetsu, kaguya , I'm sorry but right there, you see that this story was drag at one point)

The manga Akatsuki was base on the 9/11 event ( Seriously, either you wanted this to failed or you are stupid as f*** to said that in an interview)

His whole promotion of the last.

 

THE 2nd path mean it did ALL THOSE STUPID MISTAKE BECAUSE HE IS STUPID. I MEAN kitten. YOU CANNOT BE THAT DUMB. IF he is, yes, he most likely never see what he has done but there is always a chance he does.

 

I don't say we will have an alternate ending. But I've believe that if it is path 1 we are in, we might have a good chance after the franchise popularity dies down , if the new project flop or if Kishi has an author have some pride (like I couldn't did the ending I wanted back then, but now I can)

[Phantom_999]

Yukito Kishiro and Battle Angel want to say Hi to you.

He was unsatisfied witho how he ended his manga so he made a continuation and changed the ending. It was like a million times better.
Also the author from shaman king changed it.

 

Never read Battle angel or Yukito Kishishiro. Shaman King on the other does not feel like an alternate ending but an extended ending to elaborate the ending of the series proper cause ch. 285 did not feel like an ending at all, did it?

 

My point being, Naruto has ended. The ending was was INCREDIBLY BAD yes (the worst ending in the history of written fiction IMO), but it is still an ending. Making an alternate ending at this point is going to have a lot of negative backlash. Even if he managed to masterfully redo everything in the last two chapters and make NaruSaku canon, what is he going to say? "NaruHina was never my intention please forgive me"? That is gonna cause major controversy on his indecisiveness. And it will Piss off the fans that actually enjoy the series' ending, plus believe me it is NO consolation to NaruSaku supporters who have already watched the story be butchered to make these  bs, fairy tale-esue couples be even slightly possible. The story is already apocalyptically ruined, so what is one alternate ending going to do? this isn't a visual novel. If he wanted NaruSaku he would have ended it with NaruSaku in the first place without being pulled into anything.  

Edited by Phantom_999, 24 December 2014 - 04:19 PM.

[Narufan85]

It's going to be more anti-NS retcon and pandering to NH and SS.

[TheBestUsernameEver]

Here dunno if its 100% TRUE but 1. http://aaaaninja.tumblr.com/post/106051760813/emperorzeo-konan-sama-keraergoo
2. http://fortunatelymy...enextmillennium As this is from tumblr you have to doubt if its TRUE or not but if it is ... They are out to destroy NS.

Edited by TheBestUsernameEver, 25 December 2014 - 01:17 PM.

[Princess Iris]

Here dunno if its 100% TRUE but 1. http://aaaaninja.tumblr.com/post/106051760813/emperorzeo-konan-sama-keraergoo
2. http://fortunatelymy...enextmillennium As this is from tumblr you have to doubt if its TRUE or not but if it is ... They are out to destroy NS.

wow!
asspull

[Lory-Chan]

Here know if its 100% true but this is by tumblr must doubt whether its true or not, but if it is ... They are destroying NS.

 

If all this is true ...

When I read this second link:

"Hinata will have a fun, but nice" "battle with some" in-law Habanero ""

I was disgusted.

Kushina, you would have to kill that stupid Hinata, do not do a battle cute !!!

 

However, I realized that the idiot kishimoney just want us to endure more foolish Nh fanservice.

 

 

Am I wrong to hope that these chapters provide some actual closure on the things that the final chapter failed to? I don't expect it to change the pairing or anything, just hoping it'll address the other things that were wrong with the ending. Because it was so much more than pairings.

 

Though at this point, I suppose it'd too late for any such attempt to do much good. It won't undo the damage that was done, especially to the characters.

I do not think that stupid author will repair its damage inflicted to the characters. Indeed, I'm sure that he'll ruin them even more!!

 

 

So we agree to disagree :).  I don't really see NS as a silver medal if he redo the ending no matter what.

I don't believe we will have an alternate ending anyway unless their whole new "naruto" project flop. Where is Kishi in this scenario to make an alternate ending? I see 3 path, 2 where we've got a alternate ending.

Status quo : MOST LIKELY, like you said, he don't give a kitten anymore. So let's forget this one and check the others.

 

path 1 (which I believe let's say in 85% more plausible): That ending was forced to him by someone else, editor, SP name it. On july, Kishi will work on other project, meaning the part 3 will not even have him implicate. That explain a bit the sell out. However, what might happen in this scenario is that he want the project to fail, and redo his ending in maybe 5 to 10 years, you know, when we don't care anymore. It might go the DBZ route, where the new movie don't acknowledge GT existence, maybe we'll have that latter.  

Path 2 : He actually did it on he own free will. That I can believe because all those interview made his work and even himself look like a dumbass. I can't believe someone will be that stupid. If he did an alternate ending in this scenario, it's after realization that he was high or drunk as hell when he did that ending. I mean let's resume.

I've plan Naruhina since Shippuden beginning (meaning you have like a hell of a time to develop it) .

Sakura and Naruto love each other at one point, but I didn't want Sakura to be cruel to Hinata ( think about how many this one pissed off)

Narusaku development like Kushina comparaison was a red herring.

I've forget to put the Byakugan on Naruto's children ( really, you forgot)

Check the ending of the war arc ( obito, madara, black zetsu, kaguya , I'm sorry but right there, you see that this story was drag at one point)

The manga Akatsuki was base on the 9/11 event ( Seriously, either you wanted this to failed or you are stupid as f*** to said that in an interview)

His whole promotion of the last.

 

THE 2nd path mean it did ALL THOSE STUPID MISTAKE BECAUSE HE IS STUPID. I MEAN kitten. YOU CANNOT BE THAT DUMB. IF he is, yes, he most likely never see what he has done but there is always a chance he does.

 

I don't say we will have an alternate ending. But I've believe that if it is path 1 we are in, we might have a good chance after the franchise popularity dies down , if the new project flop or if Kishi has an author have some pride (like I couldn't did the ending I wanted back then, but now I can)

What I write is always hearsay ... But on a couple of Italian NS forum, I heard that kishimoney gave an interview in which he claims to have made the final Nh on "request of the SP".

If it is true (unfortunately I do not know Japanese, so do not know that there is in the image that I enclose it says so really), that man is ... Despicable!

 

l

 

It should say this, if it was translated well:

"Even in the love story of two people separately I without much fondness (laughs), I did not intend to draw the story."

"But I did not really have any devotion about the love story of the two-Naruto and Hinata- (lol). I did not plan to write this story. "- Kishimoto

Also:

"I know the idea of a [NH] love story was not my idea at the start, however ..."

 

Kishimoto, you are a kittenin' silly TROLL!

Edited by Lory-Chan, 26 December 2014 - 02:33 PM.