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In Topic: I've Had It

11 February 2010 - 04:58 AM

I would calm down. Sakura's previous actions make no sense if she is serious. Why would she give a "love confession" to Naruto and only when he rejected her, does she try to go after Sasuke? I think it is pretty obvious that she is just trying to get close enough to take him out when he's not looking. She knows she cannot win in straight up fight (sure Sakura is strong and Sasuke is pretty worn, but the Sharingan is still ridiculously powerful). I am less bothered by this than the "confession" from before which seemed too strained and unreal (hence, why Naruto rejected it).

I do not see it lasting past next week unless Kishimoto decides to drag it out and have Naruto join the party (before Sakura or Sasuke turn on the other).

I thought it was a good chapter. It was also nice a character I liked did not die (quite the opposite, Karin is alive enough for Sasuke to finish her off, fortunately interrupted by Sakura), unlike the other frickin' two SJ mangas I read this week.

EDIT: Grammar, clarification, and erasing so many "honestly"'s

In Topic: The Great NaruSaku Debate Thread!

24 August 2009 - 11:52 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Aug 24 2009, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats not what i said, in point of fact evidence suggests quite the opposite. They just disliekd him because he was loud and obnoxious and annoying. After the Kiba fight though i agree that they did seem to accept him as a shinobi.

I disagree though that their parents of the rookie 9 didnt accept him Id say that evidence suggests that they supported him even if silently due to his sacrafice. His pranks and obnoxiousness didnt help him any but they did give him the chance to earn his own way.

As to Sakuras parents there simply is no evidence of their attitudes towards Naruto on either extreme honestly. Yet for some reason both parents are villified by fandom for no good reason and Sakura herself is often mistakenly lumped into the category of hating Naruto because her parents did. But this simply isnt the case and Sakuras own words support this.


1. I know. I phrased it weirdly, but I knew what you were saying.

I was saying the opposite.

Honestly, there's no real evidence either way since we really don't get the parents' view until Naruto has started proving himself.

That's just the view I like since it shows them changing their opinion about him.

2. I know. It's just my guess work and I've been both right and wrong before.

I never read the fan fictions like you're talking about. Most I've read had her parents being supportive of Naruto or not knowing/caring.

Of course, I haven't too much fan fiction and most of it tends to be NaruSaku, but even when I read NaruHina (to get my fill until the day they got together*) I didn't read any anti-Sakura's parents. Most just focused on how "evil" Hinata's dad was. Is really that bad?

*Interesting realization. I don't read much fan fiction anymore after switching over to NaruSaku. Makes me think.....

In Topic: The Great NaruSaku Debate Thread!

24 August 2009 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE (Sherry @ Aug 24 2009, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
emm sorry, i don't understand about the second possibilities. I don't get your point.

Sorry~


Naruto saw how the village looked at him as "that kid." Even though he didn't know about the Kyuubi, he could probably sense they didn't look at him as human. They looked at him differently and taught their kids to.

Sakura's hatred was entirely personal. She didn't look at him as "that kid," but as Uzumaki Naruto. He saw that she viewed him the same as she did everyone else. She just didn't like him. I could see how it must have been a relief to have someone look at you like you're human even she didn't like you.

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Aug 24 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sigh. I was reading the Mizura's anti-NH essay and scrolling down the comments when I found two no-nice comments. I replied one of them, and I think I should copy/paste their and my arguments here:

Heronite - Why I Dislike NaruHina

First poster:



Mizura's reply. How you can see it's simple, concise and straight to the point:



And then the first poster -or someone else- replied:



When I read this nosense (I'm really, REALLY, sick of that "abuse" garbage), I felt the need to write something down:



And then, after hitting the "send message" button, I had an afterthought:



Do you think my arguments are good? Perhaps I was too harsh or rude -something I try avoiding-, but I'm so sick of the "Sakura only abuses Naruto! Sakura has never helped Naruto! Hinata has been nicer with Naruto! If you claim you are a Hinata fan but you can't see that, you're a liying non-fan!" rubbish.

That is NOT true and it has NEVER been true, and the manga canon DOES prove that presumption is FALSE, but I see it the whole time and it's beyond irritating.


Your post was excellent.

Going back to the school thing, there are to things I would like to add (though definitely not necessary after your post):

1. Naruto told Gaara he almost became like him if not for Iruka and then Team 7. Seriously, I would not be able to like Hinata (which I do) if she saw Naruto was in such pain that he could see himself becoming a monster like Gaara. Her shyness is not an excuse.

2. Sakura didn't like Naruto because she thought he was teasing her and making fun of her. She misunderstood his feelings. He was a prankster. Combined with her own low self-esteem, it is understandable how she might not get him.

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Aug 24 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok let me explain.

It is established in the manga that with the exception fo the rookie 9 for the most part all the other children disliekd Naruto due to their parents dislikes. Basiclaly the children parroted their parents and treated naruto coldly and angrilly.

However it is also established by Sakura herself that her dislike of Naruto stems from Annoyance. She is annoyed with him because "He always interferes with my love life, and he likes to see me fail."

Then she says "Naruto just doesnt understand me at all."

basiclaly she indicates that her anger at naruto is coming from his behavior not from any preconceived hatred from her parents or any such thing.

Its one of the things in fan fiction that rather annoys me honestly as I see no reason for it. The assumption that Sakuras parents are avid Naruto haters and encouraged her to hate naruto like the other kids do. it simply isnt true and Sakuras own words support this.


I don't know about the Rookie 9 not disliking Naruto because their parents did. I think they simply found acceptance of him after he proved himself (Kiba fight). It's been a while since I read it, but I don't remember the Rookie 9 outside of Sasuke, Sakura, and Hinata getting along with Naruto before that. Except in the anime. I think their parents accepted Naruto after their kids did. Shikaku showed how Shikamaru changed his mind to some extent (admittedly it wasn't from hatting Naruto to accepting him, but same principle can still apply).

Honestly, I don't think Sakura's parents even knew. I think she is the first gen of ninja in her family. And the Third's law stopped a lot of the non-shinobi in the village from finding out (though Naruto was still bratty enough to encourage dislike for reasons other than the Kyuubi). But I could be wrong.

In Topic: Naruto 460

24 August 2009 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE (Uzumakikage @ Aug 24 2009, 07:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
translation by Shounensuki of NF

From MH, what kishi wrote at the 47 vol cover flap:

「ラストに向けての構想も確実に進み、それに向かって全力で描いていってます!
『NARUTO‐ナルト‐』を最後までお楽しみください!!」
"The plot is making steady progress towards the ending; facing this, I'm pouring all my energy into drawing! Please enjoy Naruto until the very end!!"


On a personal note I think we still have a couple good arcs left till the end of the manga and other Admins from NF are saying the same thing.


Agreed. This sounds like he's saying the main plot is in motion, not that the manga is ending soon (meaning with within the year).

QUOTE (harry4e @ Aug 24 2009, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually no, Naruto was put behind bars,to stop him from attacking Madara...They already have Madara trapped, If he managed to get inside the house Yamoto built so easily those cages would not really slow him down much if he wanted to get to Naruto.

You can see Sasuke saying he's pissed? Seriously? I guess we'll have to dissagree on that one, He's meant to be a Uchiha clan, I just can't see someone from such a proud clan using such common words. It seems as in charactor as Neji doing Stand up comedy to me.

It was meant to be a joke, I was referring to how the Samarai's who look like Troopers from Star Wars are carrying Chakra Swords that look like Lightsabers. "Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering." Famous Quote from Yoda, describes Sasuke quite well don't you think, He felt fear when his family was massacred by Itachi, Which lead to Anger at himself for not being strong enough, which lead to Hate for his brother, which lead to suffering for him, and later his friends who are trying to save him, and finally the part that's left unsaid, is that it leads to the dark side, which was shown with the demonic chakra.

Anyway...got sidetracked. So they think there are only a couple more Arcs to go? Hmmm...I don't see it but then again I didn't think it was possible to move things along as fast as Kishi did after Pain's battle but it's been one revelation after another it seems. It will be interesting to see if there is only a coupld more arcs how Naruto convincingly defeats Madara. He's not quite at super kage level Madara is, this is the guy who made the fourth look a fool during the Kyuubi attack.


1. Rereading: Yeah, you're right.

2. Disagree. Sasuke never seemed that formal to me. He had arrogance and the pride in the clan, but just never seemed to care too much for formality. Neji did and him saying it would seem out of character.

I guess it comes down to different interpretations of the character.

3. OK. Sometimes, it's hard to pick up jokes online.

4. It all depends on what you consider an Arc and what happens in the Arc. I honestly, think this Arc has two sides: Danzo and Killer Bee. Danzo needs to be taken down somehow and not in Naruto's typical way of beating the crap out of someone and giving a speech. Or it will end with Naruto being a criminal (I'm figuring for a) accusing Danzo of the crimes he committed and/or b) not killing Sasuke). I also think Naruto will find out Killer Bee is alive and search for him. This will help stop the chances of war between Cloud and Leaf. It will also let Naruto meet another junchuuriki who can teach him to control the Kyuubi (which will probably be Naruto's last big power-up, then again there is Yin and Yang chakra which he doesn't know about).

In Topic: The Great NaruSaku Debate Thread!

23 August 2009 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (Sherry @ Aug 23 2009, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm i wonder what happened between naruto and sakura in their childhood.
I a little understand why naruto loves sakura (because of acknowledgements, maybe?) but i'm sure in konoha there must be several girls that had lack of acknowledgement...
so...what makes naruto has chosen sakura? there must be something happened between them long time ago...but i've never found it out. i hope it's a good story, hee hee.

moreover, i don't like fillers in anime. because the animators, i think, create the old sakura (the annoying sakura, that's what i thought of 12-year-old sakura) but in fact, sakura now has changed to the better sakura. umm i just pity naruto because he always be the first victim of sakura...in fillers of anime, i mean.


I thought about it and came up with two possibilities:

1. He saw Sakura the same time Ino saw her. He was just too shy to reach out to her (younger Naruto could have easily been shy).

2. Sakura had actual reasons for hating Naruto, unlike the village who hated him forbeing the Kyuubi and the kids who hated him because their parents did. Naruto took some relief in the fact that she hated him for being Uzumaki Naruto and not for being "that kid."