Well then as of now, You can't really debate with me on how you feel that NaruSaku and SasuHina won't happen in the Boruto manga since you just stated to not actually reading the Boruto manga, in order to understand how NaruSaku and SasuHina will happen in the Boruto manga you have to look at the signs that NaruHina and SasuSaku's marriages are falling apart in the Boruto Naruto The Movie and also read the Boruto manga which was adapted from the movie but you wont see the signs Yet because again you just stated to Not reading the Boruto manga
As soon as you read the Boruto manga you will have a better understanding that NaruSaku and SasuHina is gradually happening and you wont be so combative towards my theories that predict that NaruSaku and SasuHina will happen in the Boruto manga.
On the specifics? Probably not. Generally, oh, he can. As I said, your theory requires that we believe Kishimoto and Co. are engaging in a rather baffling and non-sensical manner. It requires accepting that these people do things in a convoluted, obtuse manner in further of questions that don’t really demand answers (even to accomplish your stated goal) and do it over the course of multiple properties instead of being direct and just doing it in the manga like they could of.
Anyone with a basic understanding of the series can grasp the enormity of what your theory demands they accept. And it’s way too much. If you’re right, more power to you. But I don’t think you are and for me, I’ll believe your theory when I see them do it.
Well I guess I can come to somewhat of a agreement to this, NaruHina and SasuSaku are indeed boring and uninteresting,
Yes, they are. But for Boruto the manga, they are also largely irrelevant. I don’t expect the manga to spend all that much time with them because it’s not about them.
And yes those 2 pairings would consist of one sided conversations, Hinata would invite Naruto to join her to visit neji's grave something he was never shown to be interested in, Hinata would do all the talking while we would sit next to her bored as hell yawning and wondering when she will finally shut up so he can get back to his hokage duties while eating a bowl of ramen.
I disagree. Naruto loves paperwork more than people. It’s why Boruto is so pissed in Boruto (in the beginning anyway). So, I don’t think they’d converse. And since Sakura was fine and dandy with her husbands being AWOL for more than a decade and a non-entity in their daughter’s life, it’s hard to imagine she’d do anything about it.
We have no idea if Naruto is interested in Neji’s grave. It’s not important. He didn’t attend the one time it was shown. Wasn’t that visit during the time his kid was defacing the Hokage monument?
You’re observations and theories are riddled with stuff like this. You read intent things that aren’t trying to send the message you claim. His non-attendance at a scene that wasn’t trying to convey the message you give it. You are reading the worst possible intent into scenes that are intended to send entirely different messages. There is nothing about the TONE of that scene that remotely suggests that it’s trying to send a message that Naruto doesn't give a rip about Neji’s grave.
Speaking of that…Naruto and Hinata could talk about…..NEJI!! They both knew him. They both liked him and he had an impact on their lives.
This is a somewhat amusing charge to hurl at SS and NH, given you’re a SH fan. If conversations with Sasuke and Hinata would be one-sided because of their non-responsive personality, what would SH ever talk about?
As for the one thing you identify that SH could talk about…I respond to that below.
This is one reason how Sasuke would be a better fit for Hinata, because he just like Hinata also visits the leaf village's graveyard to visit his deceased brother Itachi, All it takes is for that faithful moment where Sasuke and Hinata to visit the leaf villages graveyard at the same time, then they can discuss all the great times they had with their brother, they may even learn and talk about how their life with their older brothers were virtually the same which clearly means Sasuke and Hinata WONT be having any one sided conversations because they would have a mutual understanding
I can't even think of a reason why Sasuke and Sakura would have a decent conversation... It would be like:
Sakura:Welcome home Sasuke!
Sasuke:Yeah...
Sakura:You want some dinner Sasuke ?
Sasuke:Yeah...
Sakura:Sasuke you look handsome today
Sasuke:Well i'm going back on my atonement journey to leave you alone for another 10 years
Sakura:Oh! ok have fun
Sasuke:Yeah...
Yeah, it’s hard to imagine this going any better with Hinata. It doesn't show he’s a bad mate for Sakura, it shows he’s a bad mate for everyone. Which, in truth, he is. You think he’d stay for her anymore than Sakura? Especially considering that his reasons for doing so are rooted in his own need for penance.
One commonality does not a relationship make. After SH talked about that….what next? NH/SS both fought in the same war together. Why can’t they talk about that. The horrific nature of that war, is something they could discuss.
Not to say, I’m high on either NH/SS. I hate them both. But your complaints can be turned right back on your own pairing, so it’s not very persuasive.
It's not that abusive relationships are popular, It's just that Sakura is a character that is hated by many male Naruto fans due to her being a strong female character and the fact that she constantly viciously assaults Naruto when he's barely misbehaving, many men in the world still don't like women who can control them because the "Men are stronger and the woman is made to pleasure the man" stereotype is still strong even to this day,
Sakura is the personification of feminism and feminism is not very popular amoung the males of the world, According to many Naruto fans, They wanted Sakura to be with Sasuke so that he will have total dominance over her bringing her down, Which he succeeded because he turned Sakura into a poor depressed lonely housewife
It was more of the fans wanting to get revenge on Sakura for everything that she did violently to Naruto instead of them generally liking abusive relationships
Sakura's violent tendacies is also the reason why so many NaruHina fans were created, because many Naruto Uzumaki fans didn't want to see their favorite character get paired up with a girl who didn't treat him good, alot of NaruHina fans don't even like and favor Naruto being with Hinata it's just they were voting against Naruto being with Sakura
Hinata is a submissive subservient female who doesn't object to ANYTHING someone tells her to do, men like women like that because it keeps the male in power Sakura challenges that authority, that's why Hinata is so favored in Japan because truthfully speaking Japan is a very male dominated country they envision their women to be destined only for a life of a housewife and pleasuring them when ever they want
In conclusion:
Women favor Sakura because she personifies the strong and powerful woman that they envision and dream of becoming, Sakura is heavily backed by feminism
Men favor Hinata because she is submissive and subservient that will bend to their every will, Many men in the world would like for all women to be like Hinata so that they can continue the flow of domination they have over women, and in addition for women to be very curvaceous like Hinata so they will have something nice to look at
I want to go to town on this so bad, but I cannot do so without getting into politics and I am not going to do that here.
I will say this much though….I can’t imagine why guys would hate the Tsundere trope when they have to watch male characters get decked for minor, inconsequential, or, in some cases, no reason at all. It’s generally used as humor in anime, but I don’t find it funny.
Even the Naruto/Sakura moment that opens with this thread….why did she sucker punch him? She’s the one who brought up her romantic interest in Sasuke and he gets gut punched because she’s embarrassed about something EVERYONE knows about?
I don’t blame guys for not liking this, especially when many reasonably feel that if the situation were reverse, and it were played for humor like the Tsundere frequently is, people would be outraged. But when it’s the dood getting decked we are supposed to go, AHAHA, how funny! They must hate this stuff because their a bunch of sexist kitten!
For me, it’s a piece of a character so I don’t necessarily hate Tsundere’s and, at least for manga Sakura, it’s such a small part of her character it has no impact on me. But from what I here, anime Sakura is much worse.
The pairings NaruHina, NaruSaku, and SasuSaku only continue the warefare of the 2 human genders male and female, And this warfare wont end in the near future, Unless these pairings are broken apart.
Yeah, somehow I don’t see the battle of the sexes being impacted regardless of how those pairings turn out.
Now all we have to do is wait in the Boruto manga for their relationship to flourish.
Given that Boruto is about him and his relationships, I’m not holding my breath.
Well sir that is one of the reasons and signs why NarutoXHinata marriage isn't working out
No.
It’s probably because the story is about Boruto and the main area the writer’s are trying to explore are Boruto’s crappy relationship with his dad and Boruto’s relationship with Sasuke. I wouldn't expect much NH action in a movie or manga that isn’t about them or their relationship. This is the kind of stuff I mean, about reading the worst possible interpretation into something that is trying to convey something totally different. The lack of NH focus CAN be for reasons beyond what you suggest. There is a much simpler explanation beyond your convoluted theories.
Are you familiar with the concept Occam’s Razor?
??? The Sasuke Shiden filler arc that was recently animated didn't ONCE reference Naruto being married to Hinata despite the Sasuke Hiden Novel that the Sasuke Shiden anime filler arc is suppose to be adapted from and that Novel mentions that Naruto is married to Hinata, so no Studio Pierrot is NOT telling the fans that Naruto and Hinata are together in the anime
In the Boruto movie NarutoXHinata nor SasukeXSakura were given ZERO romantic scenes in the Boruto Naruto the movie, all Studio Pierrot showed us was that their relationships are in a current state of sadness and despair, because the husband of these 2 families chooses not to spend time with their family but rather the child and mother of the OTHER FAMILY WHICH CLEARLY MEANS STUDIO PIERROT IS IMPLYING THAT NARUHINA AND SASUSAKY ARE NOT STRONGLY TOGETHER
Kishimoto INTENTIONALLY made NaruHina and SasuSaku cannon because he wanted Hinata and Sakura to see that the men they dreamed of marrying are actually not a compatible fit for them, Hinata will start to realize that Naruto wasn't the right man for her and that it was actually Sasuke all along and Sakura will realize that Sasuke wasn't the right man for her it was actually Naruto all along.
Still don’t know why he needed to show that to make NS/SH. If he did, still dunno why he didn’t do it in the manga and before they got married and had kids. It’s much easier on everyone to do it that way. Makes no sense to make multiple properties to do something that could have been done quicker, easier, and cleaner in the manga.
Did Kishimoto and SP, say….efficiency! kitten that, kitten. Let’s be as convoluted and meandering as possible. Let’s teach the fandom the pain of divorce and jerk our twelve year old characters through that mess, even though its totally unnecessary to accomplish our primary goal. which is to tell a story about Boruto's ninja adventures. The end game decisions in the manga for pretty much everyting…IMO, were terrible. But as I said before, your theory requires a level irrationality, and a willingness to piss on fans and piss away money, that is just impossible to accept. Maybe, they smoke crack every morning and are really this dense, but they are definitely going to do actually have to do it before I believe it.
What is the reasoning for whizzing on NS only to turn and crap on NH/SS AFTER they already ran many of the NS fans off…and do it many years later when they likely no longer care. Had they pulled this stunt in the immediate aftermath, maybe they hold on to NS fans as they run the rest out of town….but to slow roll after pissing NS fans off….? Hard to believe.
Again Kishimoto and Studio Pierrot is showing us that NarutoXHinata and SasukeXSakura are just not good fits for each other, now they are building up NarutoXSakura and SasukeXHinata to show how NaruHina and SasuSaku pales in comparison to them
Is the animation posted in your OP supposed to build up NS, you know, they one where they talk about Sasuke and she talks about him in a romantic tone and blushes right after?
You NaruSaku fans are falling for the trap that NaruHina and SasuSaku is the end pairing when actually it's only beginning the NaruSaku and SasuHina ship, you guys fell for the trap so easy because you gave up to quick because you still continue to believe that NaruHina and SasuSaku wont break up even when there are hints given that they are.
Yeah, can’t imagine why we believe they won’t break up. It’s not the ending, or the gaiden, or the movie, or the kids, or that the plot, or the insulting NS fans right after the end or that is not meant to the romantic drama fest your theory requires it to be?
I think it’s the reverse. You can do what you want and believe what you want. I, however, thinks its unfortunate there are people showing a willingness to walk that path with you. I think the lot of you are setting yourself up for disappointment. I suppose that’s your call.
I can see through Kishimoto's and Studio Pierrot's Mind games, NaruSaku and SasuHina were always the end pairings in all of the Naruto series, You think NaruSaku and SasuHina were red herrings ? on the contrary NARUHINA AND SASUSAKU were the red herrings to show us that they are not the best fits to show that they pale in comparison to NaruSaku and SasuHina and that's how NaruSaku and SasuHina will start and it's starting right now.
I don’t think SH was a red herring. It would have had to have some inclusion in the manga beyond none at all in order to be that.
Whether NS/SH are the best fits is immaterial. It’s not the choice they made.
As I've explained... NaruHina and SasuSaku's marriages are not happy, they are serving as the basis to begin the NaruSaku and SasuHina ships, Hinata is being shown that being with Naruto is not as great as being with Sasuke, And Sakura is being shown that being with Sasuke is not as great as being with Naruto,
Again don't fall for the trap that NaruHina and SasuSaku is the the final pairings that wont change or break up, they are beginning the NaruSaku and SasuHina ship.
I think you see things that are not there.
As for me, I guess I fell for it and am now a lost cause.