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Glad Sakura claimed the top 3 and Minato stayed in 1st. Rather have stuff about him instead of Hinata. Speaking of her, I wasn't surprised her fans managed to get her to the top 10. She doesn't deserved it though.

funny i feel that filler arc is what most hinata fans go to for her which is creepy 

 

That's the general consensus for a lot of us.

I felt the same way too... like are they really attempted to "sexualize" a 12-13 year old girl and why she had to be naked? 

It reminded me what was going on with the Dead or Alive series with its creator, Tomonobu Itagaki, when he was leading Team Ninja for Tecmo. During his run of developing the games and spin-offs, Itagaki made a weird comment that "it is okay in Japan to sexualize girls like Kasumi as opposed to the West". Back then, Kasumi and Ayane were 17 and 16 year old respectfully. However, when the games were localized for the West, their ages were stated N/A. Same for Kokoro when she debuted in DOA4 as she was 16. This all changed when 5 came out, thanks to the 2-year time skip for the plot (but then again, we then have Marie Rose, Honoka and later NiCO, legitimate lolicon characters).  Promotional materials for DOA1 (PS1 and Saturn Openings) and DOA 2 had Kasumi nearly naked. And also Kasumi's "controversial" 4 ending of her dreaming as a mermaid, topless. At one point, hackers managed to find a naked 3D model of Kasumi in DOA2 and made her playable which caused Itagaki and Tecmo legal actions.

So I don't know how people let their taboo fantasies to come forth without controversy. Come to think of it, why didn't anyone shot back at SP back then for the waterfall scene?

The First Naruto chapter came out on October 4th, 1999, and if we skip to when Hinata first showed up in chapter 34, which came out on June 19th, 2000.

 

Now if we look at the anime which started in 2002 in October, the 3rd had Hinata in the first episode.

 

Clearly, this shows right from the start, SP had favoritism toward Hinata. Now this might not be true, and I could be overthinking this, but I think SP was trying to set up Hinata the moment they got their hands on this manga thanks to all the filler that had Hinata and painted her in a better light than all the other girls.

I wouldn't count that. I mean because not only her, but Sasuke, Sakura, Shikamaru, Chouji, Ino, Shino and Kiba was shown on the first and 3rd episodes to give more clarity of who were Naruto's classmates in the Ninja Academy before he became a Genin.  It made sense canon-wise because none (except a "cameo" of Sasuke) were shown on the debut manga chapter, they were just random kids (especially the clone final exam scene, both Shikamaru and Ino were the replacements of 2 random boys complaining at Naruto for Iruka's pop exam). We knew Sasuke and Sakura's official debuts were in chapter 3. The others came in later during the beginning of the Chunin Exams.

 

Yup, which irritates me too that they had to do that. And shows how the writers of The Last knew jack and crap about "Naruto" as a franchise.

Exactly. Those people disrespected the franchise. It's fine to add filler but not the kind of filler to make your own changes that would screw up plots.

And in the filler flashback, didn't they show Naruto creating actual Shadow Clones to use on bullies? Y'know, the technique that he never knew about until he was twelve and whose lesser variation he sucked at?

I don't remember but then again, if it did happen, then they were basically rehash that filler flashback for The Last to be "canon".

I also forgot she had a bodyguard who didn't do s*** but chastised Naruto who was trying to "save" her.

I have no idea, but if I remember in the episode that had Hinata confess her love for Naruto, and then the forced back story with her getting picked on oddly by three bullies, the same as Sakura's back story with her getting bullied. Anyway, from what I remember, and this was a long time ago, but SP did work far better on Hinata's episodes or anything that had her play big moments.

The actual episode goes like this:

• The whole episode was about Hinata and her confession
• The team added a filler flashback on how she fell in love with Naruto when she was being picked on by three kids and he "tried" to save her, mind you, that back in Part 1, the Hyuga family was basically royalty.
• Speaking of the royalty status, the only thing was correct was Hiashi mistreated her because of her shy personality. But because they want her to be interesting to the audience, they ignored Sakura's situation of being bullied because of her forehead and give Hinata a situation of her being bullied by others, which was downright stupid in both the kids and in the writer's perspective.  Why would you write about that for her when she was supposed to be royal status for the Leaf?
• Did I mentioned that she had a lolicon design as a child?
• Then the unnecessary "determine to save Naruto" fight scene with the "Sailor Hinata hair" animation because the one-hit KO from Pain in the manga most likely pissed off the Hinata fandom at Studio Pierrot and want her to look pretty while being beaten up. 

So SP use the animation resources to make sure Hinata looks as gorgeous as possible for her episode. And when we get to the actual hyped episode of Naruto (Tailed-Beast 5-6 Mode) Vs. Pain, well.. you guys saw what happened.

Also, I mentioned before but have you noticed on The Last, it is very similar to that flashback.

Why are NH fans even remotely surprised that she prioritized her sugar daddy over her child?  This is the same woman who tried to gaslight her son on his birthday by stating that her husband was allowed to be negligent because he had a terrible childhood and called him a "burden" that Naruto didn't need to deal with. And told her the same twelve year-old son to protect his father, even though Naruto's a freakin' demigod at this point. And was the one who was willing to leave her sister in the clutches of an enemy over knitting a damn scarf just win over the object of her obsession.  Or forgot that her cousin freakin' died to protect her before his corpse even cooled because Naruto was holding her hand.

 

I mean, Hinata's not just a horrible mother, she sucks as a family member on all fronts.

Wait, NOT the sugar daddy!!!         

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Its not that he didn't had a Moment is just he is generally unimportant/unfocused on especially in the sequel era.

 

Remember Kiba was a joke by the end as Naruto;s completely ignored and forgotten rival, Tenten is so unimportant we don't even have complete confirmation she Lee's wife and just runs a unless weapon shop, and Choji is normally just the father of Fat Filler via crack pairing.

I edited your post this for clarification. 

The smart move the way I see it is to end Boruto in whatever way doesn't really matter, leave it for some years in order for people to not have as strong feelings towards it as they do now, to forgot a little bit about it. Then announce a movie. I say a movie because they need something big and also small enough to get people hyped for it. Coming out with a manga or anime continuation won't have the same effect. Plus I've always believed that the best way is to redo the Naruto vs Sasuke fight. Why that point? Well because no one will ever reboot the whole series or start somewhere at the halfway point. That's just too much to erase. But mainly because having a fight especially a good animated one on the big screen with those two will be the big thing that they need.

 

I rather redo the whole Ninja War arc starting from the end of the Pain Arc. The whole situation, (exclude Naruto meeting Kushina) was a hot mess that even affected the hyped Naruto Vs. Sasuke Part 2 fight. Do a number of changes and do it ala Mortal Kombat 9's plot (without majority of the good guys died at the end).

I doubt Kishi or SP will ever admit they did something wrong, they will just continue will nothing happened. At best we might get a comment like "what we did back then was good for the times, but now we're excited about the new material" when they will announce a remake.

I'm convinced one day they will redo it, when? I don't know. Maybe Kishi won't even be around for it. Or even us.

Oh, Masashi will definitely come running whenever money involve. So if anyone convince him to redo the series that will potentially make more money, he will jump ship. The only suggestion he needed is to get better editors and assistants that don't put in their two cents.

With Studio Pierrot however, that might be a different story unless they pull many workers that was working on the franchise either fired or moved them to a different project. I see this happened all the time.

That's what I'm talking about. Where did the obsession come from with SP. The NH fans have an excuse, but what about SP? 

Because when they began portraying Sakura in a bad light, especially when treating Naruto for comedic purposes. Not to mention they sexualized Hinata way back with the filler when she was training naked under a waterfall and had Naruto mesmerized in the background (really, not cool as they were minors!)

What I'd like to know is where this obsession with Hinata even came from with SP. She was never that interesting and she didn't appear for at least a year or two into the manga. She got her ass handed to her by Neji, then disappeared until Shippuden if I recall correctly. 

I assume you forgot about Part 1 with the fillers and the unnecessary "beyond the tsundere-trope" with Sakura.

The wedding pics at the end of the credits was so cute! 

Don't get me started with the Hot Springs episodes!