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[Don'tMindME]

@dont mind me
No, what he good is :
1. Unique art
2. Drawing emotional scene.

The fight is never at full force. It's always one nerve after another.
Do you think sage mode naruto could win again all six path of pain?
The only good fight in this manga is when good character lose, ex :
Lee vs garra and jiraiya vs pain.

Kishi lore is interesting but his timeline is messy. And he always retcon it, because he create contradiction.

Oh and sad backstories. That's like his favorite thing.

[Change]

Something interesting I found(not Naruto related) 

http://www.slashfilm...-made-a-profit/

Edited by TheMagicConch, 29 December 2014 - 06:26 AM.

[rocci]

Oh and sad backstories. That's like his favorite thing.

More like sympathies villain. To the point he forget to develop his own heroic character.

[trang95]

As I said, it is bound to make more money than RtN.. it is the final film..
even I am excited to see the movie.. how characters look, how their personas changed in 4 years and all that.

I dont care if they didn't make it NaruHina. If need be, I can easily imagine Hinata as an oc (She practically does nothing incredible in manga, and according to me, her personality is as vivid as a dough.)

People are going to watch how a series they followed for 15 yrs is going to end. And its got intigue going for it, if nothing else...

And its a romance too... much larger audience than a pure action flick.

It's ok to see the movie. I will see it, too, but not in the movies, but online b/c I've promised my best friend (unfortunately).

Since you're new, I don't know how much you know already, but this is not the last movie. There will be a Bolt movie next year.

And also, I can understand that you are excited for this movie for the things, you've mentioned. Just don't expect too much. I've seen clips- including the finale. The animation is splendid. But don't expect a lot of side characters to be given any spotlight- they are literally cast aside. If you're lucky, you get to see a few seconds of one of the rookie 9 and that's it.

I had high expectations for this movie, but after having seen the finale... Yeah, nothing what I imagined at all.

[somilmish]

I'm not going to was the bastardisation of naruto (bolt's) movie. No chance..

I was just sayong that if a guy like me and a girl like you, avid NS shippers are going to watch the movie, then the movie would've still gained revenue.. doesn't matter if we didn't like it. They got the money. So the movie not earning is out of question.

[luffyq1]

Everyone Please Read This. If NS4L Reads This Please Post This Rant Made By Someone On Reddit

"This is bullsh**. Plain and simple. You don't spend 15 years and nearly 700 chapters pandering to the "red herring" couple only to suddenly have the protagonist fall for the girl he ignored and who appeared in less than 20 chapters. No writer sets up such blatant, obnoxious parallels or writes about "budding feelings" in a data book to reinforce hints and teases of mutual attraction in the manga. Writing is about showing, not telling.

 

It's perfectly fine Kishimoto decided to end with NH and SS, regardless of the fact both were completely one-sided and he spent the entire manga telling us why SS simply doesn't work. That's totally fine and his prerogative as the creator. What isn't fine is treating his readership as though they are idiots. Anyone that doesn't have their heads up their own asses or has their vision clouded by shipping goggles will realise this ending for what it is: pandering to the biggest fanbase.

 

The endgame pairings involving Team 7 were canonised because of their popularity, not because they made sense within the story.

 

My biggest issue with the ending is the way in which Kishimoto has shown such blatant disrespect for his own characters. Naruto thought Hinata liked him like he liked ramen? That's a load of bull, and insulting. His reaction to her impromptu declaration made it very clear he knew exactly what she meant, and more to the point, this is Naruto we're talking about, a character who is defined by his emotional competency, his ability to understand complex emotions. This is the same character who, as a 12 year old boy, made a hardened assassin like Zabuza cry.

 

Naruto, the same guy who understood Sasuke so clearly that, in his own words, he simply hurt knowing what he felt. The same kid who, on a number of occasions, was shown to perfectly understand the feelings Sakura had for Sasuke - because he had the exact same feelings for her.

 

Naruto deserved better than to have his character assassinated in such a blatant manner and with such utter disregard. Naruto deserved more than to have his genuine, selfless love to be reduced to an immature crush that served as a nonsensical extension of his rivalry with Sasuke - who couldn't have cared less about Sakura.

 

Speaking of Sakura, she deserved better than to have been paired with Sasuke, someone who treated her like dirt and tried to murder her and those close to her. Throughout the manga, Kishimoto went out of his way to illustrate just how toxic Sasuke was to her. She could never be brave or outspoken around him, unless Naruto was somehow involved. His mere presence turned her into a weakling. He robbed her of her confidence and convictions, supposedly because she was in love with him.

 

And don't get me started on Hinata and NH. This is a parasitic relationship that's been put on a pedestal because it appeals to beta males across the world. I'm sick of hearing of how she's "always been there for Naruto." She wasn't. Hinata was never there for Naruto until others were. Her distant, quiet support did nothing for him. He was never aware of it until he had already surrounded himself with people that cared about him. People constantly put Sakura down in favour of Hinata, which annoys the hell out of me, because they conveniently ignore the fact that Sakura has been supporting - actually supporting - Naruto for much longer, and she wasn't quiet about it either. In fact, by chapter 43 she had helped him on a number of occasions, saved his life and was even willing to flunk herself and Sasuke for the sake of preserving his dream.

 

His dream, which Hinata never seemed to give a kitten about because she only ever thought of Naruto in direct relation to herself. Hinata wanted his acknowledgement, she wanted his attention, to walk by his side, to hold his hand, and so on and so forth, but not once was she shown to be considerate of Naruto's wants and needs, and that is the primary reason why I detest NaruHina. Hinata's love for Naruto was never profound or deep or anything of the sort. It was selfish and self-centred, and I'm sick and tired of people pretending it was anything but.

 

I could keep going, but kitten it. I'm trying to put this kitten ending behind me. I could rant about the loose ends, the contradictions, the plot holes, the fact Kishimoto's final sendoff was centred around a half-baked love story rather than Team 7 and that we were never given closure on Naruto's answer to peace or witnessed his ascension to Hokage, and I could rant about the fact all the fandom gives a kitten about is the pairing wars, but whatever, I'm done."

Edited by luffyq1, 29 December 2014 - 07:05 AM.

[somilmish]

true... link?

[rocci]

Once, beat her once
Doesn't develop her in the war arc? I'm not even going to go into a discussion about that
Because Hinata was so developed right? I mean come on dude look at what you're typing, you're giving so much faith into a poll that 's 5 years old
If Hinata was so popular how come they're isn't that much merchandise about her? How come she wasn't marketed for the Movie? 
You fail to realize how popular SS and NS is in Japan
You can believe in what ever you want, but what you're saying isn't making any dam sense.

Yes she beat her once.
Sakura demote to supporting character status, she's equal to Hinata. And the assistant said that sakura is not heroine since 2010.
Hinata doesn't develop, but she get big moment.

I don't think japan is different from the rest of the world.

[AHK]

Yes she beat her once.
Sakura demote to supporting character status, she's equal to Hinata. And the assistant said that sakura is not heroine since 2010.
Hinata doesn't develop, but she get big moment.

I don't think japan is different from the rest of the world.

Bro. In Japan, Hinata is NOT as popular a Sakura.

[somilmish]

she was not the heroine since 2010?

I have been living a lie...

[Princess Iris]

Everyone Please Read This. If NS4L Reads This Please Post This Rant Made By Someone On Reddit

"This is bullsh**. Plain and simple. You don't spend 15 years and nearly 700 chapters pandering to the "red herring" couple only to suddenly have the protagonist fall for the girl he ignored and who appeared in less than 20 chapters. No writer sets up such blatant, obnoxious parallels or writes about "budding feelings" in a data book to reinforce hints and teases of mutual attraction in the manga. Writing is about showing, not telling.
 
It's perfectly fine Kishimoto decided to end with NH and SS, regardless of the fact both were completely one-sided and he spent the entire manga telling us why SS simply doesn't work. That's totally fine and his prerogative as the creator. What isn't fine is treating his readership as though they are idiots. Anyone that doesn't have their heads up their own asses or has their vision clouded by shipping goggles will realise this ending for what it is: pandering to the biggest fanbase.
 
The endgame pairings involving Team 7 were canonised because of their popularity, not because they made sense within the story.
 
My biggest issue with the ending is the way in which Kishimoto has shown such blatant disrespect for his own characters. Naruto thought Hinata liked him like he liked ramen? That's a load of bull, and insulting. His reaction to her impromptu declaration made it very clear he knew exactly what she meant, and more to the point, this is Naruto we're talking about, a character who is defined by his emotional competency, his ability to understand complex emotions. This is the same character who, as a 12 year old boy, made a hardened assassin like Zabuza cry.
 
Naruto, the same guy who understood Sasuke so clearly that, in his own words, he simply hurt knowing what he felt. The same kid who, on a number of occasions, was shown to perfectly understand the feelings Sakura had for Sasuke - because he had the exact same feelings for her.
 
Naruto deserved better than to have his character assassinated in such a blatant manner and with such utter disregard. Naruto deserved more than to have his genuine, selfless love to be reduced to an immature crush that served as a nonsensical extension of his rivalry with Sasuke - who couldn't have cared less about Sakura.
 
Speaking of Sakura, she deserved better than to have been paired with Sasuke, someone who treated her like dirt and tried to murder her and those close to her. Throughout the manga, Kishimoto went out of his way to illustrate just how toxic Sasuke was to her. She could never be brave or outspoken around him, unless Naruto was somehow involved. His mere presence turned her into a weakling. He robbed her of her confidence and convictions, supposedly because she was in love with him.
 
And don't get me started on Hinata and NH. This is a parasitic relationship that's been put on a pedestal because it appeals to beta males across the world. I'm sick of hearing of how she's "always been there for Naruto." She wasn't. Hinata was never there for Naruto until others were. Her distant, quiet support did nothing for him. He was never aware of it until he had already surrounded himself with people that cared about him. People constantly put Sakura down in favour of Hinata, which annoys the hell out of me, because they conveniently ignore the fact that Sakura has been supporting - actually supporting - Naruto for much longer, and she wasn't quiet about it either. In fact, by chapter 43 she had helped him on a number of occasions, saved his life and was even willing to flunk herself and Sasuke for the sake of preserving his dream.
 
His dream, which Hinata never seemed to give a kitten about because she only ever thought of Naruto in direct relation to herself. Hinata wanted his acknowledgement, she wanted his attention, to walk by his side, to hold his hand, and so on and so forth, but not once was she shown to be considerate of Naruto's wants and needs, and that is the primary reason why I detest NaruHina. Hinata's love for Naruto was never profound or deep or anything of the sort. It was selfish and self-centred, and I'm sick and tired of people pretending it was anything but.
 
I could keep going, but kitten it. I'm trying to put this kitten ending behind me. I could rant about the loose ends, the contradictions, the plot holes, the fact Kishimoto's final sendoff was centred around a half-baked love story rather than Team 7 and that we were never given closure on Naruto's answer to peace or witnessed his ascension to Hokage, and I could rant about the fact all the fandom gives a kitten about is the pairing wars, but whatever, I'm done."

Who posted it??

I really love him/her! !!
is he/she one of us?

@somilmish

that was an excuse by Kishi's assisstant

[Change]

I'm not going to was the bastardisation of naruto (bolt's) movie. No chance..

I was just sayong that if a guy like me and a girl like you, avid NS shippers are going to watch the movie, then the movie would've still gained revenue.. doesn't matter if we didn't like it. They got the money. So the movie not earning is out of question.

Oh it is
Nobody knows what will be a profit or not. People just see big numbers and think that it means profit
Plus you think it's just people who ship NS that doesn't like the movie? Neutral fans and some NH and SS fans don't like it either

[somilmish]

yeah! give me da link! I wsnna go show my support!


sooo kishi didn't say that, didn't confirm it?

I hope the sec lost his job after such an irresponsible statement.

[Change]

Yes she beat her once.
Sakura demote to supporting character status, she's equal to Hinata. And the assistant said that sakura is not heroine since 2010.
Hinata doesn't develop, but she get big moment.

I don't think japan is different from the rest of the world.

Oh was Hinata the one fighting Kaguya? Was she the one who helped defeat the "FV". You act like Sakura never had any big moments. Like somebody else said Hinata is barely relevant in the manga.
Oh so who was the heroine? Cause it sure wasn't Hinata
Dude, yes Japan is different from the world. Why do you have this mind set that everybody has the same feelings around the world?

[Princess Iris]

yeah! give me da link! I wsnna go show my support!


sooo kishi didn't say that, didn't confirm it?

I hope the sec lost his job after such an irresponsible statement.

kishi said it indirectly


Sakura was not popular so I thought of Hinata...

[Illnevergiveup3]

Our of curiosity, what are everybody's fav pairings? Doesn't have to be Naruto, btw?

SonAmy, NaruSaku, LuffNami, IchiOri, ClarkLois, BarryIris, Peter Parker and Mary Jane.

[rocci]

Oh was Hinata the one fighting Kaguya? Was she the one who helped defeat the "FV". You act like Sakura never had any big moments. Like somebody else said Hinata is barely relevant in the manga.
Oh so who was the heroine? Cause it sure wasn't Hinata
Dude, yes Japan is different from the world. Why do you have this mind set that everybody has the same feelings around the world?

Did sakura get her own fight in war arc? What is her conflict?
The one who fight kaguya is naruto and sasuke. Kakashi and sakura only give assist.
The heroine in this manga is sakura. But she's not popular.
I don't think Japanese is that different.

[somilmish]

Snape/Lily . Jerza, Narutox Fem Haku!

[milan kyuubi]

Favorite ships?

 

The first ones to come to my mind....

 

Naruto/Sakura, Draco/Hermione, Kirito/Asuna, Merlin/Morgana, Buffy/Spike, Cole/Phoebe, Touma/Misaka, TD/Rose, Shiro/Rin, Korra/Asami, Snape/Lily

Edited by milan kyuubi, 29 December 2014 - 08:05 AM.

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