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[catsi563]

pfft I get back at them by makign Hinata actually relevant to the story and providing proper closure to her story 

[VanitasDS76491]

pfft I get back at them by makign Hinata actually relevant to the story and providing proper closure to her story 

I like the evil hinata ideas I have and firstevil100 have for her.

[jak123]

Yes I wonder plus the fact there's no proof he and Sakura ever kissed adds to the awfulness.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the only time they had sex was to conceive Sarada either that or she was artificially inseminated. Oh, plot twist. What if Sarada IS Karin's daughter, but Sakura was basically their surrogate.

[DrK]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the only time they had sex was to conceive Sarada either that or she was artificially inseminated. Oh, plot twist. What if Sarada IS Karin's daughter, but Sakura was basically their surrogate.

I saw that I said this before a long time ago, but who cares: The inheritor of Tsunade's medical techniques and thus successor to the, or simply the, best medical ninja is going to suffer for 9 months so that a former Oto kunoichi doesn't have to get fat? That's more nonsensically asinine than what Kishi would like readers to believe actually happened. 

Edited by DrK, 12 January 2020 - 06:03 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the only time they had sex was to conceive Sarada either that or she was artificially inseminated. Oh, plot twist. What if Sarada IS Karin's daughter, but Sakura was basically their surrogate.

 

Jak, I basically believe that's the case with Sarada that she is Karin's daughter, in spite of KIshi and others trying to gaslight us into believing that isn't the case. If she wasn't, WHY DOES KARIN HAVE HER UMBILICAL CORD THEN!?!? Plus, DNA tests don't lie given how accurate they can be, so Karin has to be lying for some reasons, but it's not like Kishimoto or Studio Pierrot believe in consistency. It's why Kishimoto is only an advisor nowadays while he tries to write Samurai 8, only for that to be failing.

[James S Cassidy]

 
Because if it WAS a romance manga, there WAS NONE WITH HINATA. Even they know it or else they wouldn't be fighting so hard but again Naruto's VERY UNSUBTLE LOVE for Sakura debunks that whole argument because Naruto "blatantly shows interest in a girl, unlike other Shonen MCs" and it is not just hints or teasing on his end. So that whole "it is not a romance manga is not even an excuse". The whole reasoning for that opinion though is not only for lack of development between Naruto and Hinata but also to fuel a secondary madness of these Hinata fans, "Sakura can not win!!! Sakura must not win!!!!!!" In their minds even the very notion of that must be blown apart on an atomic level Because "Naruto's one and only true love can only be Hinata". Why do you think they are such hilariously sad hypocrites on that very subject? It is SUCH a violation of of the universe that Naruto Uzumaki gets together With Sakura Haruno   

 

And, unlike other Shonen MCs, you actually have other characters acknowledge the love he had for Sakura...Shikamaru, Konohamaru, the Frogs, Gaara, Sai, Minato (his own dad)...

Even in the non-canon material for the show they express Naruto's love for Sakura and other characters...Ino, Ten-Ten, and more.

Naruto: "I love Sakura"
Every other character in the show: "Naruto loves Sakura"
Kishimoto (before being forced), Rock Lee SD writer, Junko, Kishimoto's wife, half of Studio Pierrot: "Naruto loves Sakura."
Pro-enders: "Naruto always loved Hinata. He just never knew yet."

I still can't over the fact that Sai said: "Even I can tell that he loves you."

It is so damn obvious, but they want to believe that Naruto always loved Hinata. This is why NH feels so forced. You have so many people say that Naruto loves Sakura, but they refuse to accept that he loved anyone, but Hinata because someone lied to Kishimoto that Hinata HAD to win.

This is why I hate Naruto overall.
 

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

And, unlike other Shonen MCs, you actually have other characters acknowledge the love he had for Sakura...Shikamaru, Konohamaru, the Frogs, Gaara, Sai, Minato (his own dad)...

Even in the non-canon material for the show they express Naruto's love for Sakura and other characters...Ino, Ten-Ten, and more.

Naruto: "I love Sakura"
Every other character in the show: "Naruto loves Sakura"
Kishimoto (before being forced), Rock Lee SD writer, Junko, Kishimoto's wife, half of Studio Pierrot: "Naruto loves Sakura."
Pro-enders: "Naruto always loved Hinata. He just never knew yet."

I still can't over the fact that Sai said: "Even I can tell that he loves you."

It is so damn obvious, but they want to believe that Naruto always loved Hinata. This is why NH feels so forced. You have so many people say that Naruto loves Sakura, but they refuse to accept that he loved anyone, but Hinata because someone lied to Kishimoto that Hinata HAD to win.

This is why I hate Naruto overall.

 

That overall is also why I hate the NaruHina fandom because they RUINED EVERYTHING FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH ENDS!!!!!!!

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

That overall is also why I hate the NaruHina fandom because they RUINED EVERYTHING FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH ENDS!!!!!!!

Yeah that is why they are so awful, I mean a few admit they hate the character of Naruto and only wanted NH to happen because they wanted Hinata happy, it shows they are selfish I mean I would ask James to ask a NH fan who they like more Hinata or Naruto, but I can bet many will pick Hinata.

[VanitasDS76491]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the only time they had sex was to conceive Sarada either that or she was artificially inseminated. Oh, plot twist. What if Sarada IS Karin's daughter, but Sakura was basically their surrogate.

so your saying Sakura just carried Sarada and wasn't knocked up by Sasuke, cause Sakura said her only date with Sasuke was 2 minutes long and that isn't enough time to knock her up, heck kyle Reese from terminator had hours to get Sarah knocked up with John and it's more believable with Sarah and kyle.
  

I saw that I said this before a long time ago, but who cares: The inheritor of Tsunade's medical techniques and thus successor to the, or simply the, best medical ninja is going to suffer for 9 months so that a former Oto kunoichi doesn't have to get fat? That's more nonsensically asinine than what Kishi would like readers to believe actually happened.

and again no one not even Naruto questioned where sakura was the whole time
  

And, unlike other Shonen MCs, you actually have other characters acknowledge the love he had for Sakura...Shikamaru, Konohamaru, the Frogs, Gaara, Sai, Minato (his own dad)...
Even in the non-canon material for the show they express Naruto's love for Sakura and other characters...Ino, Ten-Ten, and more.
Naruto: "I love Sakura"
Every other character in the show: "Naruto loves Sakura"
Kishimoto (before being forced), Rock Lee SD writer, Junko, Kishimoto's wife, half of Studio Pierrot: "Naruto loves Sakura."
Pro-enders: "Naruto always loved Hinata. He just never knew yet."
I still can't over the fact that Sai said: "Even I can tell that he loves you."
It is so damn obvious, but they want to believe that Naruto always loved Hinata. This is why NH feels so forced. You have so many people say that Naruto loves Sakura, but they refuse to accept that he loved anyone, but Hinata because someone lied to Kishimoto that Hinata HAD to win.
This is why I hate Naruto overall.

 agreed the Fandom ruin it not so much this Fandom but the NH fans do since they think no one else can ship Naruto with anyone anymore now that he married hinata.
 

That overall is also why I hate the NaruHina fandom because they RUINED EVERYTHING FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH ENDS!!!!!!!

I hear that especially on da it's awful since I just got into an argument over Shao khan kicking Naruto ass and he brought up the last and I said why I hated it and brought up stuff that didn't make sense and I mocked hinata and they shut up and won't discuss the movie with a hater and they were NH cause I asked them.

[VanitasDS76491]

Yeah that is why they are so awful, I mean a few admit they hate the character of Naruto and only wanted NH to happen because they wanted Hinata happy, it shows they are selfish I mean I would ask James to ask a NH fan who they like more Hinata or Naruto, but I can bet many will pick Hinata.

That and they think they have final say in everything Naruto related like they say we can't ship narusaku anyone I'm like kitten you what right do you have did kishi or sp give them that right.

[Phantom_999]

 

And, unlike other Shonen MCs, you actually have other characters acknowledge the love he had for Sakura...Shikamaru, Konohamaru, the Frogs, Gaara, Sai, Minato (his own dad)...

Even in the non-canon material for the show they express Naruto's love for Sakura and other characters...Ino, Ten-Ten, and more.

Naruto: "I love Sakura"
Every other character in the show: "Naruto loves Sakura"
Kishimoto (before being forced), Rock Lee SD writer, Junko, Kishimoto's wife, half of Studio Pierrot: "Naruto loves Sakura."
Pro-enders: "Naruto always loved Hinata. He just never knew yet."

I still can't over the fact that Sai said: "Even I can tell that he loves you."

It is so damn obvious, but they want to believe that Naruto always loved Hinata. This is why NH feels so forced. You have so many people say that Naruto loves Sakura, but they refuse to accept that he loved anyone, but Hinata because someone lied to Kishimoto that Hinata HAD to win.

This is why I hate Naruto overall.
 

 

Exactly. Naruto admitted he loved Sakura, several characters admitted he loved Sakura. Gamakichi knew about Sakura, calling her Naruto's girlfriend during his FIRST MEETING with Naruto during the battle with Gaara. SAI OUTRIGHT STATED he knew Naruto loved Sakura to the latter's face after acknowledging he doesn't really understand human emotions and bonds, being robbed of it his whole life. And like I said before, Tezuna, Team 7's first client assumed there was a love Triangle when Naruto vaguely told him Sasuke left after they meet again in the after math of Nagato's invasion. Characters outside of Naruto and Sakura were spelling out for us that Naruto loved Sakura so to say otherwise or argue against that is not ignoring context, it is outright denying the damn story.

Edited by Phantom_999, 15 January 2020 - 06:05 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

Exactly. Naruto admitted he loved Sakura, several characters admitted he loved Sakura. Gamakichi knew about Sakura calling her Naruto's girlfriend during his FIRST MEETING with Naruto during the battle with Gaara. SAI OUTRIGHT STATED he knew Naruto loved Sakura to the latter's face after acknowledging he doesn't really understand human emotions and bonds, being robbed of it his whole life. And like I said before Tezuna, Team 7's first client assumed there was a love Triangle when Naruto vaguely told him Sasuke left after they meet again in the after math of Nagato's invasion. Characters outside of Naruto and Sakura were spelling out for us that Naruto loved Sakura so to say otherwise or argue against that is not ignoring context, it is outright denying the damn story.

 

Even Konohamaru had seen Sakura as Naruto's girlfriend when he first met her after the Land of Waves arc and before the Chunin Exams!

[DrK]

 

Even Konohamaru had seen Sakura as Naruto's girlfriend when he first met her after the Land of Waves arc and before the Chunin Exams!

I mean, Konohamaru was just wrong. Kishimoto when writing the story, decided that he would think that, and be wrong, because... I literally can't even come up with a sarcastic reason. Forget it.

[Phantom_999]

Konohamaru is wrong because HOW COULD HE NOT see the sexiness and beauty of the the Hyuga's main heiresses!!?? He and Hanabi were practically flirting with each other in that episode when they went out drinking in Boruto. Konohamaru must have had something wrong with his eyes when he first saw Sakura and called her a babe!!!!!!!

@DrK- there you go, you're welcome

Edited by Phantom_999, 15 January 2020 - 06:22 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Konohamaru is wrong because HOW COULD HE NOT see the sexiness and beauty of the the main Hyuga Branch sisters!!?? He and Hanabi were practically flirting with each other in that episode when they went out drinking in Boruto. Konohamaru must of had something wrong with his eyes when he first saw Sakura and called her a babe!!!!!!!

@DrK- there you go, youre welcome

 

OK, that's pure gold, Phantom 

[Phantom_999]

Thank you. I LOVE coming up with Sarcastic responses
 

WOW, Phantom... you musta been storing this for a while! There's only one thing to say...
 

 

Agreed the NH fans can't let Sakura have any wins or anything.

 
Oh Yes I've had that argument in my mind for the longest time. Why would NH fanatics hypocritically scream out Naruto is "not a romance manga" and yet lo and behold all they are drooling over is Naruto and Hinata breathing the same air as eachother and say that is romantic development between them? Why are they claiming Naruto and Hinata had all of the development and pairing moments that they need in the manga to kick start their relationship, yet buzz to "The Last" like bees to their hive full of honey and claim that is the best anime movie of all time? "Sakura hatred" seems to be the decisive factor in that formula because they can't seem to 100% commit to one argument or the other.
 
Naruto is "not a romance manga" but we need that movie for NaruHina's validation even though it insults and retcons EVERYTHING ABOUT NARUTO. Hinata must be Naruto's one true love but they never had any true moments in the manga, and Sakura was the one given the typical "anime love interest tropes" so let's erase and deny all traces of it, and so on.
 
I'll get back to my explanation on this later but I've made the argument before regarding this.

Edited by Phantom_999, 14 January 2020 - 07:36 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Since I've been watching RWBY way before the end of Naruto I fell in love with the series. However the show has changed completely after it's creator Monty Oum passed away in 2015. The writers Miles and Kerry are worse than Kishi making me think they stopped using Monty's ideas or maybe they're using a bit of them but the rest is coming out of their asses. It has become so toxic specially on the ships as they've been running their LGBT agenda for a long time and now I fear this series will be RoosterTeeth's downfall after all the crap they've been through all over 2019. The character development has been horrible, the fights have been lagging that special choreography from Monty's it hasn't been the same, and they keep making mistakes regarding the plot all over again as they have contradicted themselves in the past. The latest volume 7 is showing more incompetent writing, LGBT ship teasing to no end and silly mistakes that could have been corrected before airing the episodes but they never bother doing those changes. The show has become rather" heterophobic" because the fans think every new character introduce is gay and they have to hook up or else. It's one bis mess after another and the new writers Miles and Kerry hired aren't helping in the slightest since it seems they don't know kitten about RWBY. At this rate I'd say the DC RWBY comic is doing better than the actual show. 

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Since I've been watching RWBY way before the end of Naruto I fell in love with the series. However the show has changed completely after it's creator Monty Oum passed away in 2015. The writers Miles and Kerry are worse than Kishi making me think they stopped using Monty's ideas or maybe they're using a bit of them but the rest is coming out of their asses. It has become so toxic specially on the ships as they've been running their LGBT agenda for a long time and now I fear this series will be RoosterTeeth's downfall after all the crap they've been through all over 2019. The character development has been horrible, the fights have been lagging that special choreography from Monty's it hasn't been the same, and they keep making mistakes regarding the plot all over again as they have contradicted themselves in the past. The latest volume 7 is showing more incompetent writing, LGBT ship teasing to no end and silly mistakes that could have been corrected before airing the episodes but they never bother doing those changes. The show has become rather" heterophobic" because the fans think every new character introduce is gay and they have to hook up or else. It's one bis mess after another and the new writers Miles and Kerry hired aren't helping in the slightest since it seems they don't know kitten about RWBY. At this rate I'd say the DC RWBY comic is doing better than the actual show. 

 

Honestly Graven, I feel like that RWBY kinda slacked on Volume 3 with some of the means to make it get "darker" with how things turned out. I mean, RWBY was fine up until Volume 2, and then I just skipped out on 3 and beyond, then watched RWBY Chibi.

 

In all honesty, that's why I am glad there can be fan fiction to help there. 

[Gravenimage]

 

Honestly Graven, I feel like that RWBY kinda slacked on Volume 3 with some of the means to make it get "darker" with how things turned out. I mean, RWBY was fine up until Volume 2, and then I just skipped out on 3 and beyond, then watched RWBY Chibi.

 

In all honesty, that's why I am glad there can be fan fiction to help there. 

 

The only reason I'm still watching it is so I can continue my RWBY fan fiction. I have a crossover with Tales of Berseria that has gotten popular and my fans loves it more than the actual canon show.

[Phantom_999]

Right. So I've made this argument some time ago.

 

Hinata Fanatics, Sakura Haters and whatever group that I can umbrella under this point I'm about to address repeat this mantra that Naruto is "not a romance manga". Why? because they want to wholeheartedly believe Naruto will get hitched with Hinata without any explanation or justification in the story because Hinata deserves him and not that stone cold, ball busting tsundere bi-atch Sakura Haruno that friend zoned Naruto when he was a POOR LITTLE social pariah orphan and was only eyeing the "cool sexy bad boy Sasuke Uchiha". They believed Naruto and Hinata were the prize the other deserves and were sooooo offended by Sakura's initial treatment of the former that they want her denied ANY chance of being Naruto's love interest and avoid that notion like the plague, despite evidence to the contrary. Which is why they also treat any moment between Naruto and Hinata like one of those grand love story developments that only the greatest of minds could ever write. Naruto and Hinata just being a few feet in front of each other and just saying "hi" is enough to drive them wild, because again Hinata is the "prize trophy wife" Naruto deserves and not that " dirty hoe" Sakura. I need not say more on this topic, because we've all beaten dead horse for years AND WILL for years to come. Point is, all of that rabid bashing Sakura and praising Hinata as the greatest "waifu" For Naruto Uzumaki, all of that arguing with NaruSaku fans saying how any fraction of a percent chance of Naruto getting together with Sakura is treated as "devil worship", And WHAT DO WE ALL GET?

 

We get "The Last: Naruto the movie". The movie where there is a retcon of Naruto having the Shadow clone/kage bunshin as his signature move since age 6 instead of learning it at 12-13 from Tobirama's scroll in chapter/episode one. The movie were Naruto OUTRIGHT shows he gave no kittens about Hinata's confession from over 2 years ago (in the manga/anime's timeline at least), all NH fans' arguments for that moment being when Naruto falls for Hinata aside. The movie that painted Naruto as a self entitled scumbag that view women as trophies to be won, as exemplified with Sakura's statement that he only wanted her as a way to win against Sasuke and lost interest in Hinata after she rejected him due to being blackmailed to marry Toneri by the man himself, so Naruto gave up on how the world was about to end until he's convinced he can win her over like a prize Just like he did with Sakura. That "phony baloney (on so many levels) movie" portrayed all that kitten and is canon may I add, (there is not canon displacement like with other anime movies) Until Naruto and Hinata "tie the knot" and Hinata is "knocked up" with Boruto in her arms.

 

Now Here is the very irony of that movie for NarHina fans and it is a lose-lose situation when you think about it, because everything  NH defenders have been arguing for has been debunked by the movie's very existence. "Naruto is not a romance manga." *pfft* Yeah, says the "Shojo cliche fanfic" canon movie that was all about showing how Naruto Nardo went from Goku levels of romantically ignorant to getting rushed developments with Hinata in the span of a few days, then outright falling in love with her overnight. The movie that retconned the very beginning of the entire story JUST TO SHOW how Naruto Nardo Scumzamaki got together with a shy wall flower he never looked at twice before. But then there is the other end of the spectrum, If Naruto WAS a romance manga, Well what do you know, That falls flat on it's stupid face too if you are talking about Hinata. it is clear then, that Hinata was not the love interest, because all the so-called developments between her and Naruto in the manga/anime were thrown out the window. The movie states Naruto Nardo was not interested enough in Hinata to walk her home at night. The movie shows that despite being childhood acquaintances, Naruto Nardo was never close to Hinata. The movie blatantly shows Hinata's confession from Nagato's invasion is the farthest thing his mind. In fact he didn't even know what romantic love is as shown when he was eating with Sakura and he thought love meant "loving food" like how he "loves" ramen. So again, Hinata's confession that SOOOO many NH fans get tingly thinking about meant and did jack squat. Ultimately, the movie proved Hinata's fanatic cultists wrong either way. "Naruto is not a romance manga" But the first and only canon movie to the series did nothing but promote and develop a (non-existent) romance out of thin air rather than expanding on the story like Dragon Ball's "Battle of Gods" or "Resurrection F", and that Hinata was never the love interest and had to be shoehorned to being such at the last second. That movie outright admits Naruto NEVER saw her in a romantic light for all the manga/anime and only in that movie (mid-way might I add) does he start to see her "as a woman". So all of NH's arguments on how Hinata was always the love interest was debunked by the "The Last's" core conception, so where is that "respect the canon" drivel now?

 

Really, you a can't help but laugh at how splintered and pyrrhic NaruHina's victory is¯\_(ツ)_/¯  

Edited by Phantom_999, 06 March 2020 - 12:58 AM.