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#21 HalfDemonInuyasha

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:31 PM

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So Kakashi imply that it's not ok for Naruto to kill his favorite student but it's ok for his favorite student to kill Naruto?

This is when i'm starting to really hate Kakashi , the first time i'm starting to dislike him is when he throw Naruto to Ebisu so that he can focus teaching Sasuke.

It shows how much of a hypocrite Kakashi.

And it's worse for Kakashi as the Chidori is classed, for SOME reason, as an assassination technique, as in its main purpose is to kill.

The Rasengan, however, is an incomplete technique that can at least be used in a way that DOESN'T kill, but merely disable as Jiraiya demonstrated against those ordinary mooks when he first showed it to Naruto when searching for Tsunade.


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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:35 PM

It shows how much of a hypocrite Kakashi.

And it's worse for Kakashi as the Chidori is classed, for SOME reason, as an assassination technique, as in its main purpose is to kill.

The Rasengan, however, is an incomplete technique that can at least be used in a way that DOESN'T kill, but merely disable as Jiraiya demonstrated against those ordinary mooks when he first showed it to Naruto when searching for Tsunade.

 

Yep. And Naruto had a RIGHT to learn the Rasengan, not just to protect himself from the Akatsuki... BUT BECAUSE HIS DAD WAS THE ONE WHO CREATED IT SO IT'S ANOTHER INHERITANCE IN A SENSE!!

 

I always felt the only reason the Chidori / Lightning Blade is an assassination Jutsu is because of it being designed to kill, especially given Kakashi's mindset when he created the Jutsu being one of blinded by anger and an inability to understand his dad's sacrifice, as well as the fact he taught it to someone as mentally immature and unstable as Sasuke, especially when it comes to Sasuke's inability to handle the fact there can always be someone stronger than you out there.



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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:17 AM

Sakura is that good, ordinary middle child that got forgotten between the chaos of her older (Sasuke) and younger (Naruto) brothers who're both just a handful. Like Kakashi didn't think about her and instead focused on the last Uchiha while doting on Dead Last, who was barely keeping up. These were two extremes where she got lost somewhere in between.

 

And we'll never know what Kakashi was doing during that two-year time skip, because he seemed genuinely surprised of her abilities during their reunion fight at the beginning. Shouldn't he be keeping tabs on his student? She was the only one still in within the village after all...

 

 

Maybe it wasn't Kishi's intention, but he did Sakura a good thing by letting her break away from all that confusion to approach the Hokage, wanting to be taught and eventually winning Tsunade over. For me, it made up for Kakashi's lack of attention towards her. (Or maybe I just prefer Tsunade and Sakura's mother-daughter bond a lot more.)



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Posted 28 March 2019 - 12:16 AM

With all of this, I definitely feel that in many ways Kakashi not only failed Sakura, but Sakura being on Team 7 was detrimental to her already challenged self-esteem. And it could have easily been the exact opposite, which is the most frustrating thing about not only this case but many of the series' low points. There's a choice being made to write things a certain way, and it's one thing when you write yourself in a corner and you don't know what to do, so you come up with whatever, but if a scenario can easily be written better and go down a different path why not do that instead of making a huge creative misstep?


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Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:52 AM

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So Kakashi imply that it's not ok for Naruto to kill his favorite student but it's ok for his favorite student to kill Naruto?

This is when i'm starting to really hate Kakashi , the first time i'm starting to dislike him is when he throw Naruto to Ebisu so that he can focus teaching Sasuke.

 

It shows how much of a hypocrite Kakashi.

And it's worse for Kakashi as the Chidori is classed, for SOME reason, as an assassination technique, as in its main purpose is to kill.

The Rasengan, however, is an incomplete technique that can at least be used in a way that DOESN'T kill, but merely disable as Jiraiya demonstrated against those ordinary mooks when he first showed it to Naruto when searching for Tsunade.

 

 

Why did Kishimoto write Kakashi like that? Like, why isn't Kakashi saying "Sasuke could have killed Naruto" but is saying "Naruto could have killed Sasuke"? 

 

Was this intentional writing on Kishimoto's part, and if so, why? 

 

Is the intent to show Naruto "winning Kakashi's acknowledgement from ground zero?"  But HOW then? If getting stronger won't win Kakashi's acknowledgement (as we see here, Kakashi gets mad because Naruto got stronger.)

 

What was the point of writing Kakashi as a character who wants Naruto to be unable to defend himself against Sasuke's Chidori?   


Edited by Toby, 31 March 2019 - 01:53 AM.


#26 Bryon_Konoha_Ninja

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 06:09 PM

 

 

 

Why did Kishimoto write Kakashi like that? Like, why isn't Kakashi saying "Sasuke could have killed Naruto" but is saying "Naruto could have killed Sasuke"? 

 

Was this intentional writing on Kishimoto's part, and if so, why? 

 

Is the intent to show Naruto "winning Kakashi's acknowledgement from ground zero?"  But HOW then? If getting stronger won't win Kakashi's acknowledgement (as we see here, Kakashi gets mad because Naruto got stronger.)

 

What was the point of writing Kakashi as a character who wants Naruto to be unable to defend himself against Sasuke's Chidori?   

 

It's also like how Kakashi was more impressed by Sasuke doing the Lion's Barrage just because of his copying the start of the Primary Lotus from his fight with Lee using the Sharingan than he was with Naruto doing the Naruto Uzumaki Barrage, which Naruto came up with more on the fly just from what he saw of Sasuke's Lion's Barrage AND also doing it to do more pain in some cases by doing hits all at once rather than a combo of moves....? Is it just because Kakashi has that mentality that only the elite are good and those who work to become stronger don't matter?


Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 31 March 2019 - 07:42 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:38 AM

 

It's also like how Kakashi was more impressed by Sasuke doing the Lion's Barrage just because of his copying the start of the Primary Lotus from his fight with Lee using the Sharingan than he was with Naruto doing the Naruto Uzumaki Barrage, which Naruto came up with more on the fly just from what he saw of Sasuke's Lion's Barrage AND also doing it to do more pain in some cases by doing hits all at once rather than a combo of moves....? Is it just because Kakashi has that mentality that only the elite are good and those who work to become stronger don't matter?

 

I think that, at the time those events were being written, Kishi wasn't set on Kakashi being Minato's student and as such was writing him to favor Sasuke. This in turn would make Naruto out to be more of an underdog while also making Sasuke look more power hungry when he left the village. It was only later, when the Akatsuki and the tailed beast become more center stage in the plot, that Kishimoto tried to tweak Kakashi to be less of an ass to Naruto leading to some uneven writing.


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 02:05 AM

 

I think that, at the time those events were being written, Kishi wasn't set on Kakashi being Minato's student and as such was writing him to favor Sasuke. This in turn would make Naruto out to be more of an underdog while also making Sasuke look more power hungry when he left the village. It was only later, when the Akatsuki and the tailed beast become more center stage in the plot, that Kishimoto tried to tweak Kakashi to be less of an ass to Naruto leading to some uneven writing.

 

Sadly, it didn't turn out as well, like how he talked in his head abotu Naruto while "training" him to learn his natural chakra form, like his finding it unbelievable Jiraiya could teach him the Rasengan and such XP






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