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#181 Fenris

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 07:23 AM

QUOTE (KeikoxYusuke @ Dec 20 2011, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree, there is no way Kishi is going to just not reveal to Sakura who REALLY loves her forehead. after all this time, I just know she slowly fell in love with Naruto, and when she finds THIS out!... oh man.. just think about it~! wub.gif she is going to be in shock I think..all this time, the dobe she has gorwn to care so much about, the one she confessed her love to in order to protect him.. is the very same one who loves the very thing she hated about herself. ( just like Kushina! ) love.gif

right now, tho... interviews are hard to tell for sure.. but..*Pause* I like that sec one.. ( lol..) heheelq7.png

Exactly.


QUOTE (Mr Horrible @ Dec 20 2011, 04:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was a troll, I'm not sure why someone would repost this here, but it was a pretty clear troll from NF.


Hmm, if it was a troll, that's good. If it wasn't a troll, that's good. I'm not really bothered by the whole
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Sidenote: Apparently Kishi promises more Sakura and there will be revelations about the love trio.
thing, cause if anything it just means more Narusaku and Sakura realziing she loves Naruto instead of Sasuke.

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#182 Codus N

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 02:07 PM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Dec 20 2011, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I don't want to look like a fool, so I'll assume this is the right translation. tongue.gif

There are a couple interesting new tidbits, but it sounds pretty similar to the other translation. The big difference I noticed was that Kishi said the Sasuke/Sakura parting scene 'troubled' him. I don't know if that means it was a trouble to draw (like the other translation seemed to imply) or that it troubled him emotionally, but I thought that was an interesting line.

I'm not gonna read too far into it, though. I generally take JF interview translations with a grain of salt, no matter how good the translator is.


Interesting, if this is true, I'm guessing there's a good chance the pairing subplot will be resolved within the next year. It's about time if you ask me.
Also, do you know if "revelations" was the actual word used? That could mean a lot, potentially. Is it a revelation that someone will fall in love with someone else out of nowhere? Or is it a revelation that a certain kunoichi fell in love with someone else without realizing it? *coughbenchscenecough* wink.gif

LOL, and there I go, reading too far into it. sweat.gif


He probably meant that SS scene was hard to do, as he had to ask a female co-worker.

I will also say this: Do NOT trust interviews. As NF is chockfull of SS & NH fans, anything pairing-related interviews should be taken with a grain of salt.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 04:09 PM

QUOTE (Mr Horrible @ Dec 19 2011, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was a troll, I'm not sure why someone would repost this here, but it was a pretty clear troll from NF.

QUOTE (Codus N @ Dec 20 2011, 08:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will also say this: Do NOT trust interviews. As NF is chockfull of SS & NH fans, anything pairing-related interviews should be taken with a grain of salt.

Ha ha, it's funny, since I claimed to be skeptical and still jumped to a pairing conclusion in the same post. Maybe I should take my own advice. tongue.gif

Anyways, this is why I pretty much despise these interviews, or at least how they're treated in the Western fandom. It'd be alright if I was fluent in Japanese and was present at the interview, but from where most of us stand, we really have no way of telling what's legit or not. As much as I'd like to trust fellow Naruto fans, it gets pretty hard with kids trolling about, thinking they're cool by spreading misinformation throughout the fandom. On top of that, just the factor of how much the information can change from person to person (or fan to fan to internet to translator to fan to fan), makes it hard to take this information seriously.

On that note, was the comment someone made earlier about Kishi forgetting about Sakura confirmed? I suppose it doesn't really matter, since I plan to take it with a grain of salt either way. I think naruto-z's advice is best. The manga is the only real confirmation of anything, it seems.

I'm glad Tite Kubo didn't 'confirm' Grimmjow dead again. rolleyes.gif Actually maybe he did, I haven't even looked at that interview yet.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 20 December 2011 - 04:10 PM.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Dec 20 2011, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He probably meant that SS scene was hard to do, as he had to ask a female co-worker.


Plus as he said in an interview that has been officially translated by Viz, Sakura's whole attraction to Sasuke was designed to show she was a naive young girl who didn't understand love at all. She's had to painfully learn the difference between that and the real romantic love she feels for Naruto.

Kishimoto has shown in the manga that Sakura knows and embraces her love for Naruto, but the unfortunate aftereffect of her one sided young crush on Sasuke is that it created a bond to Sasuke that just hurts her and she knows she no longer wants, but finds it's not as easy to let go of as her rational mind decided.

QUOTE (Codus N @ Dec 20 2011, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will also say this: Do NOT trust interviews. As NF is chockfull of SS & NH fans, anything pairing-related interviews should be taken with a grain of salt.


Yes, as the infamous experience with the 2009 Jump Festa should show everyone. It took a more neutral party, who while not a fan of Sakura (a sasunaru shipper) was appalled by the grossly distorted mess that was the first version of what appeared on NF to post a far more trustworthy and coherent translation.

As Kishimoto has said in officially translated interviews Sakura is a very dear character to him- so much so that he even feels uncomfortable doing anything that shades into overt fanservice of her. He couldn't even do a bikini drawing of her for the cover of Jump two years ago. And if you notice in the recent hot springs picture of the Konoha 11, he hides most of Sakura's body- only revealing the beginning curve of her bottom, while he shows most of the curve of the other girl's breasts. His fanservice of Sakura tends to be subtle- fully clothed poses that reveals the curve of her breasts, and/or the curve of her bottom and hips. He showed the same sense of modesty with Kushina, even during and right after childbirth he keeps her modestly covered, not going the typical route of making this a moment for fanservice....

Edited by ciardha, 20 December 2011 - 04:25 PM.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Dec 20 2011, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ha ha, it's funny, since I claimed to be skeptical and still jumped to a pairing conclusion in the same post. Maybe I should take my own advice. tongue.gif

Anyways, this is why I pretty much despise these interviews, or at least how they're treated in the Western fandom. It'd be alright if I was fluent in Japanese and was present at the interview, but from where most of us stand, we really have no way of telling what's legit or not. As much as I'd like to trust fellow Naruto fans, it gets pretty hard with kids trolling about, thinking they're cool by spreading misinformation throughout the fandom. On top of that, just the factor of how much the information can change from person to person (or fan to fan to internet to translator to fan to fan), makes it hard to take this information seriously.

On that note, was the comment someone made earlier about Kishi forgetting about Sakura confirmed? I suppose it doesn't really matter, since I plan to take it with a grain of salt either way. I think naruto-z's advice is best. The manga is the only real confirmation of anything, it seems.

I'm glad Tite Kubo didn't 'confirm' Grimmjow dead again. rolleyes.gif Actually maybe he did, I haven't even looked at that interview yet.


He confirmed that he was planning to troll us from the beginning with Ichigo's fullbring costume.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 07:29 PM

Anything else?

whats confirmed?

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE (Living Lavish @ Dec 20 2011, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anything else?

whats confirmed?

Its confirmed that we should only worry about the canon proof shown in manga, and not these 100 different translations people are giving us. tongue.gif

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 07:46 PM

^^^ alright. so we have no idea whats legit?

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (Living Lavish @ Dec 20 2011, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^^ alright. so we have no idea whats legit?


i guess...when it happens in the manga we will see?

....so we are back to not knowing anything???

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 10:03 PM

Lol, there's one hell of a persecution complex going on here, you do know the majority of NF doesn't give a damn about pairings right? I don't actually know of any of the translators on there who have an active bias.

Anyway, for people looking for a legit source, this is probably the best you can find;

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Did a quick translation of this blog post because it looked interesting.


出演者は、岸本先生、竹内さん(ナルト)、井上さん(カカシ)、杉山さん(サスケ)、中村さん (サクラ)の 5名。 今年はカカシ班の4名が勢ぞろいです。

The performers were five, Kishimoto-sensei, Takeuchi-san (Naruto), Inoue-san (Kakashi), Sugiyama-san (Sasuke) and Nakamura-san (Sakura). This year it was a line-up of the four members of Team Kakashi.

昨年のステージは声優さんたちへの質疑応答が中心だったらしいので、今年もそうなのかな?と思 っていました が、今年は質疑応答以外に、なんと!原画生アフレコをして下さいましたー!

Since apparently last year's performance was centered around a session of question and answer towards the seiyuu, I wondered if this year would be the same - but this year, instead of a question and answer session, waah! They dubbed some original drafts!

スクリーンにナルトの名場面(ナルトとサスケの出会い、2人の対決、サスケとサクラの別れ、カ カシ班で弁当 をわけるシーンなど)が原画が映るのですが、それに合わせてセリフをその場で各声優さんがアフ レコして下さ るんです!!

On the screen came out some original pictures of Naruto's most famous scenes (Naruto and Sasuke's meeting, their showdown, Sasuke and Sakura's parting, the scene where they split the bentou between the members of Team Kakashi, and so on), and each seiyuu dubbed the lines that went with those scenes on the spot!

声優さんに興味があるという訳ではないのですが、それでも生アフレコにはシビれました!
特にサスケ! 「千鳥!!」など、めっちゃ迫力がありましたよー!

It's not like I'm particularly interested in the seiyuu, but still - I went numb at the live dubbing!
Particularly Sasuke! "Chidori!!" and so on, it was so intense!

シーンごとにスモークをたいたり、電飾が変化したりとステージの見せ方にも趣向を凝らしてあり 、非常に見応 えがありました。

One by one the scenes were built up with smoke, the decorative illumination was changed and they thought up something clever for the way they showed the stage too... it was very impressive.

岸本先生へのインタビューを覚えている範囲で簡単にw

This is simply what I can remember of Kishimoto-sensei's interview:

「カカシにマスクを付けたことに後悔しています。口元が見えず絵で表情が現し難いので。」

"I regret putting a mask on Kakashi's face. When I draw, it's difficult to communicate his facial expression without being able to show his mouth."

竹内さんの「カカシの口を是非公開して下さーい」というお願い対しては、「それは約束はしませ ん」というよ うなことをおっしゃっていました。

But to Takeuchi-san's request of "Please, show us Kakashi's mouth without fail!", he said something like "I won't promise anything".

「来年は、カカシの過去を描きたいと思っています。でも2年前からそう言い続けながらずっと書 いていないん ですよねw」

"Next year, I want to write about Kakashi's past. But given that I've been saying that for two years running, I will probably continue not writing about it, eh?"

「最初から、友達だったナルトとサスケを対決させる話にしようと思っていた。」

"Since the beginning, I wanted to write a story that would force Naruto and Sasuke, who were friends, to have a confrontation."

「サスケとサクラの別れのシーンでは、女心がわからず、同僚と相談して描いた」

"I don't understand women's hearts, so I consulted with a coworker before writing the scene of Sasuke and Sakura's parting."

「来年はサスケのことも描きたいと思っています」

"Next year, I want to write about Sasuke too."

「完結へ向けて全力で描いていこうと思います」

"Since we're headed towards the conclusion, I will be writing with all of my power."

ちょっとしたミニゲームがあったり、ロックリーの声優さんがVTRで登場したりと笑いあり、感 動ありのステ ージでした。

There was also a trifling mini-game, and Rock Lee's seiyuu made his entry on VTR. It was a funny and moving performance.

JUMPBANGに登場しているひかりごけ片山さんが登場し、最後は全員でロックリー体操をしたのですが、 普段はペンしか持たないという岸本先生が、ぜぃぜぃあえぎながら踊っていたのが印象的でしたw ww

Then Katayama-san, the luminous moss (Note: not sure about this part XD) that appeared in JUMPBANG, entered the stage - and in the end, all the participants did Rock Lee's physical exercises! But as always Kishimoto-sensei, who only ever carries a pen, kept hopping around while wheezing. It was very impressive! XD

岸本先生の印象は、若くて謙虚。 そして虚弱体質!?w
人当たりが良さそうな優しいイメージでした。

My impression of Kishimoto-sensei was of a young and modest man. Also with a weak constitution!?
He gave me the feeling of a kind man, with pleasant manners.


There was also a part where Kishi said we would see info on Kakashi's past, Sasuke would begin to do more things and so would Naruto. He then admitted to forgetting about Sakura.

Now I don't particularly care to sift through the 19 page thread on NF to find the source for that.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 10:49 PM

QUOTE (Konan-chan @ Dec 20 2011, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, just don't trust any of these interviews 100%. Anyone could easily translate it into what they wanted to hear.

P.S. I've never really seen how Kishi looked like but now I have! Doesn't he look a little.....


Young? How old is he? :O


He was born in 1974, so he's 37. Not "young" but not quite "middle aged" either. There's not really a word for people in their 30's, like "young adult" for people from around 18-29, and middle aged for people 40-65/70. It's a transitional decade where you are conscious you are past your youth but don't want to be seen as middle aged. You tend to swing back and forth between wanting to hold onto being considered young, but also want to be taken seriously as a "true" adult. (Kishimoto even has had Kakashi and Gai exhibit some of that behavior in part 2- no doubt from Kishimoto's own feelings)
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:31 AM

morning! sry i couldnt do this earlier as i had to sleep.

Because taking photos was forbidden im afraid there’s no pic but I enumerate what I remember

After the voice actors entered, kish-sensei enters looking rather messy. "I got to here just now that I dont know anything about the arrangements or whatever (LOL)"
Dear old Kish-sensei is in the same parker (? hoodie) as the last year and thats worn-out. His Looking like he put on whatever within reach tells that he is extremely busy with pressing duties of his demanding job.
His schedule must be heavy and tight because its yearend I suppose~.

The old tean 7's live dubbing/reading aloud is so intense.

During the live readings, (kish) sensei is on a director chair keeps watching the audience all the way.
After the reading to the scenes of sasukes leaving the village and parting with saskura, sensei's comment is "this scene really troubled me"
He doesnt go into details about what troubled him at there.


In answer to the question "has it been fixed from the start that sasuke should leave the village to be what he is now?"
→"yes its from the start. there were the same old stories in which an enemy tunes to a friend and I wanted to write a story where an once friend becomes an enemy. "

After the scene kakashi admonishes sasuke to forget about his revenge telling "those who were dare to me all got killed, you know"
→"I know every year I say 'next year Ill make kakashi active for real' here(at jf) but, next year I really want to elaborate on kakashis past for real"

in answer to sugiyama-sans question "what will become of sasuke next year?"
→"weeeeel…since therere things about *E-touch(/as its connected to E-touch things) … I cant tell about that much you know…(evading)"
*sensei is calling the B-bro itachi as E-touch (=itacchi/itatti in romaji).

in reply to takeuchi-sans question "Can the current(/future) development of the manga change the conclusion (in your mind)?"
→"no. the ending is already determined and I dont have any second thoughts about it."

after the live readings, the Q and A session and a chicken race on a bogie (?)
Hikarigoke Katayama appears and everyone demonstrates their Rock Lee exercises.
Inoue-san→is not very enthusiastic
Sugiyama-san→ is too enthusiastic and yet moves inversely. his comical side never disappoints me.
Sensei(kish) →although staggering he seriously tries hard and yet collapses to the floor. guess its too heavy for him.
Takeuchi-san→ does exclusively well. She is good at everything really.
Nakamura-san→is cute



The bolded and amplified calls my attention alot what you guys think about it.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 09:46 AM

The bolded part is misleading, Kishi was referring to the difficulty of writing the scene, as evidenced by saying he had to ask his editor for advice.




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