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#1 bthug

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 04:02 AM

Why have Kushina look like Sakura and vice versa?

Why have Kushina tell Naruto to find someone like his mother?

Why have Minato compare Sakura to Kushina?

 

I just want someone to ask Kishi these questions since he's lately in the mood to do interviews



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Posted 15 December 2014 - 04:19 AM

Why have Kushina look like Sakura and vice versa?

Why have Kushina tell Naruto to find someone like his mother?

Why have Minato compare Sakura to Kushina?

 

I just want someone to ask Kishi these questions since he's lately in the mood to do interviews

Because he would have us believe it was all a red herring.


 


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 04:20 AM

He said in one of the interviews he purposefully made Kushina like Sakura to "mislead" fans. Basically he said he developed NaruSaku with parallels and all that just to pull a twist at the end with NH and SS.

 

Now some people think he's lying and that's just a cop-out used to retcon NS development others think he is telling the truth he is just incompetent and screwed up.


Edited by Candleguy, 15 December 2014 - 04:20 AM.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 04:51 AM

Why have Kushina look like Sakura and vice versa?
Why have Kushina tell Naruto to find someone like his mother?
Why have Minato compare Sakura to Kushina?
 
I just want someone to ask Kishi these questions since he's lately in the mood to do interviews


It was all because he wants to mislead us. And he has a fetish of wasting manga panels and ruining character development

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 09:50 AM

It's a crappy twist. Kikitten thinks he's a genius when he really should just admit he sold his ass out to the fans.

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 12:38 PM

It was all because he wants to mislead us. And he has a fetish of wasting manga panels and ruining character development


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Posted 16 December 2014 - 04:27 PM

I seriously don't think Kishi even knows what a "red herring" is. If something is developed, it's developed and no "red herring" can get rid of that development. It still happened. A red herring is supposed to mislead, yes, but not this way. It's supposed to mislead the characters and the plot, not just the readers. And intentionally putting in false parallels? That is LOW.

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 04:42 PM

Because he would have us believe it was all a red herring.

NS was way more then a red herring, even I would even admit that Taiora could be reasoned as a red herring, but not this. Way too much went into this, its psychotic if he did all this to keep a portion of Naruto fans to keep up. 

 

He said in one of the interviews he purposefully made Kushina like Sakura to "mislead" fans. Basically he said he developed NaruSaku with parallels and all that just to pull a twist at the end with NH and SS.

 

Now some people think he's lying and that's just a cop-out used to retcon NS development others think he is telling the truth he is just incompetent and screwed up.

Again so much was put into it, if anything red herring would have been hinata in this situation. Or even if kushina did look like sakura and act like her, why say all that, why let minato say those things at the end, then why let your main character disobey/lie to his parents *dead parents…all for hinata…

 

I seriously don't think Kishi even knows what a "red herring" is. If something is developed, it's developed and no "red herring" can get rid of that development. It still happened. A red herring is supposed to mislead, yes, but not this way. It's supposed to mislead the characters and the plot, not just the readers. And intentionally putting in false parallels? That is LOW.

This^^^^….Red herring would have been a little something here or there, but the very foundation of the manga and its parralls and messages of shoot from NS.



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Posted 16 December 2014 - 05:56 PM

The only red herrings in my opinion are the Fish tales that SP and Kishimoto-san--I refuse to call him sensei anymore after that fiasco-- are telling us. I think he caved finally. pressure from the studio, from Nana-sans reps, from editors, he just flat out caved threw his hands in the air and said whatever.

 

he allowed his story to be coopted and in the process let his reputation as a mangaka be ruined. unless he comes out hard core and publicly denounces the ending and the Last movie as non Canon AUs done for the studio, hes forever gonna be known as the red herring mangaka and no one will read any of his stories. they might buy the last chapter just to see where the main characters end up but wont trust the rest of the story at all, and will point to Naruto as the reason.

 

I think he made a horrendous mistake in this regard, Naruto will forever haunt his career as he tries new stories.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:24 AM

Why have Kushina look like Sakura and vice versa?

Why have Kushina tell Naruto to find someone like his mother?

Why have Minato compare Sakura to Kushina?

 

I just want someone to ask Kishi these questions since he's lately in the mood to do interviews

 

Everyone is asking the same questions. Actually more questions can be asked. It's just so obvious and painful to see how badly Kishi screwed up.


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I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:08 PM

Here's a suggestion. Go here:

http://www.naruto.com/j/yosegaki/

 

And instead of talking about how much you didn't like the ending, you instead post all of the questions that you want Kishi to answer. About everything. Let him know that we know that all of the hints, the parallels, the development wasn't just done to mislead us.

 

Remember, any and all questions you can think of. Let's see if we can get as mush of the NS community involved as possible.



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Posted 17 December 2014 - 02:18 PM

Because he would have us believe it was all a red herring.

 

Unfortunately, this is not how a red herring is done.

A red herring is a piece of information or suggestion introduced to draw attention away from the real facts of a Situation.

 

 

Examples for well done "Red Herrings":

 

"Ocean Waves" - From Studio Ghibli

"Pride and Prejudice" and "Emma" from Jane Austen

or in almost every Alfred Hitchcock movie.


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 09:18 PM

I would ask him what drugs he's on. :zaru:

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 12:57 AM

I have nothing to ask him. He has been weighed, he has been measured, and he has been found wanting. Without an editot who is guiding his hand, he fails as a creator. He contradicts his themes, creates jaring tonal shifts, and regresses his characters. With every interview we get it is obvious that he is protected from criticism and genuinely doesn't understand his failings as a creator. I am certain the majority of the feedback he gets is controlled and is praise placed on him by nh and ss fans who are simply happy who got to have sex with who. I have nothing kind to say to him or his ilk. The only posive he has now is in the negative as in "don't pull a Kishi", he is a true personification of a failed literary creator.


 


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Posted 27 December 2014 - 02:19 AM

If I was forced to to talk to him though I'd probably say this:

 

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 01:36 PM

i would only ask him the reason why naruto is a bad father in the ending, why did he make bolt a copy of his father, why did he not name the manga 'Sasuke'.
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 07:06 AM

I would ask him what drugs he's on. :zaru:

 

 

I have nothing to ask him. He has been weighed, he has been measured, and he has been found wanting. Without an editot who is guiding his hand, he fails as a creator. He contradicts his themes, creates jaring tonal shifts, and regresses his characters. With every interview we get it is obvious that he is protected from criticism and genuinely doesn't understand his failings as a creator. I am certain the majority of the feedback he gets is controlled and is praise placed on him by nh and ss fans who are simply happy who got to have sex with who. I have nothing kind to say to him or his ilk. The only posive he has now is in the negative as in "don't pull a Kishi", he is a true personification of a failed literary creator.

 

 

If I was forced to to talk to him though I'd probably say this:

 

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i would only ask him the reason why naruto is a bad father in the ending, why did he make bolt a copy of his father, why did he not name the manga 'Sasuke'.

LMAO I would "like" all these but I hit the limit already.

 

Naruto being a bad dad really gets annoys the kitten outta me, but I'm happy cause he's with hinata so everything is a sham. And yes it should  have been called sasuke, sasuke got everything and I mean everything….kishi always said he saw himself as sasuke...



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Posted 28 December 2014 - 09:15 AM

There is no point to ask him anything because you will just get the same response:

"It's a red herring"
"You read it wrong"
"Everything was planned from the start."

Yadda yadda yadda

Instead I would ask: "How does it feel to know that a character you told yourself to take care of is now being seen as the biggest scum bag in anime history and was reduced to nothing more than a whore for an overrated psychopathic stalker girl that you apparently felt pity for and made a whole love based relationship around guilt rather than true love?"

I would love for me and the girl I am in love with to dress as Naruto and Sakura, holding hands, and walking right up to the microphone saying "We hate people who lie to themselves" and then kiss right in front of him.


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 10:48 AM

true.

The linkgiven in the topic (to naruto.com) id outdated though..

I actually think everyone got everything they wanted, except for the main and title character.In a way, you can predict the end from the team intro scene. Which is a bloody shame because it means they didn't grow up at all.
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Posted 26 September 2016 - 08:31 AM

I seriously don't think Kishi even knows what a "red herring" is. If something is developed, it's developed and no "red herring" can get rid of that development. It still happened. A red herring is supposed to mislead, yes, but not this way. It's supposed to mislead the characters and the plot, not just the readers. And intentionally putting in false parallels? That is LOW.

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NS was largely developed that it can't be a red herring. A red herring can't be applied to NS for misleading. There are many factors in the manga that can't put NS under the word which is misleading.






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