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The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie


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#18121 六道仙人

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 12:57 PM

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How much do those spoilers reflect the general reaction of the fanbase? What if it is just mad NS fans that are ranting?

it doesn't seem like NS fans are ranting to me... Most of them are just neutral fans.


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Posted 07 December 2014 - 12:59 PM

Ratings ..? Meh. Any idea what the second day collection was? That gives a better idea. 


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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:02 PM

@Rikodou-sennin
How much do those spoilers reflect the general reaction of the fanbase? What if it is just mad that are ranting?


Not Rikodou, just some observations by me:

The reviews are ordered by votes, the most agreed ones shown first and then descending. The movie currently has a ~3.2/5 rating based on users reviews, it would be an equivalent of 6.4/10 on IMDB.

Most movies get lower and lower ratings after the first week. 3.2/5 is pretty bad.
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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:05 PM

Welp, the score went up to 3.22 due to 4 new votes :down:

 

 

Edit: 3.25, one vote was deleted...

 

 

Edit2: The kitten? All four votes deleted back to 3.19. What the hell!?


Edited by Decius23, 07 December 2014 - 01:06 PM.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:09 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Western NH-tards who didn't even watch this retcon of a movie will participate in this vote. :down:



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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:11 PM

Welp, the score went up to 3.22 due to 4 new votes :down:
 
 
Edit: 3.25, one vote was deleted...
 
 
Edit2: The kitten? All four votes deleted back to 3.19. What the hell!?

Looks like some spammers are being caught out and their votes removed. XD This is too funny.

I wouldn't be surprised if Western NH-tards who didn't even watch this retcon of a movie will participate in this vote. :down:

They can't vote, to vote you have to write a Japanese review. Well, they can make fake votes, the obvious ones seem to have been purged.

Edited by Nefertieh, 07 December 2014 - 01:17 PM.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:13 PM

According to a few people on the Yahoo movie reviews, Sasuke was in the movie for about 1 minute and there were hardly any characters in it aside from Naruto, Hinata and the villain. One very apparent NS fan was vocal about how empty this movie was compared to the Ginatama movie. I haven't watched Ginatama so I wouldn't know. Some said RTN was a better conclusion. If there's a better translator among you guys you should get them to translate some comments as I am far from perfect.



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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:14 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Western NH-tards who didn't even watch this retcon of a movie will participate in this vote. :down:

But also western NS tards could be participating in this, or just any hater that didn't really see the movie, really.

If that's what both fandoms are doing, it just seems like the best rating to give this movie is 3.45.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:17 PM

People who like this movie: NH fans.

People who hate it: everyone else.
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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:19 PM

Well, i haven't a kittening clue what exactly happens but it's really suspicious that it's always additional four votes that are deleted shortly afterwards

 

no additional vote (68): Score 3.19

four additional votes (72): Score 3.22

three additional votes (71 - rare) : Score 3.25

 

That loop's going on for the last 15 minutes or so :wot:


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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:22 PM

Well, i haven't a kittening clue what exactly happens but it's really suspicious that it's always additional four votes that are deleted shortly afterwards
 
no additional vote (68): Score 3.19
four additional votes (72): Score 3.22
three additional votes (71 - rare) : Score 3.25
 
That loop's going on for the last 15 minutes or so :wot:


Someone on Tumblr pointed out the super-positive reviews have the same comment posted over and over, as if they are spambots or something.
Follow the Yahoo JP ratings for The Last here.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 01:26 PM

They can't vote, to vote you have to write a Japanese review. Well, they can make fake votes, the obvious ones seem to have been purged.

That's good news then.

But also western NS tards could be participating in this, or just any hater that didn't really see the movie, really.

If that's what both fandoms are doing, it just seems like the best rating to give this movie is 3.45.

I just hope people have have enough brains not to do this. That's disgraceful really. :hm:



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Posted 07 December 2014 - 02:04 PM

Ratings ..? Meh. Any idea what the second day collection was? That gives a better idea. 

Just wait for one week or two. We will know if this manga flop or not.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 03:15 PM

So... we kind of won?



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Posted 07 December 2014 - 03:23 PM

Newsflash: The Last - Naruto the movie's yahoo score has sunk to 3.19 !

 

I hope the grade falls to 1.5.  -_-



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Posted 07 December 2014 - 03:26 PM

So... we kind of won?

Kishimoto kind of lost, but that doesn't mean we won. 
I really don't want to rain on anyones parade, but really, no matter what Kishimoto will say, it doesn't change what has happened. A lost war is a lost war, no matter the circumstences of how it ended. The difference between a white flag and the battle till the last man fell only changes how the war itself is looked upon.
The damage is done.
Even if they decide to make a NaruSaku ending because the sales were so bad or Kishimoto get's on his knees begging for us to listen that he always wanted NS and was forced by those bad bad people to make NH, it won't undo the movie and the real ending. It's the same crap that JK did with Harry Potter. The Story was done, written and sold. End of it. They failed, and no matter how much they try to justify or repair it, the trust broken by the fans will never be undone. I for example will never in my life watch another creation of this man, and the story can be told 1000x better than Naruto. 
I wouldn't care.


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Posted 07 December 2014 - 03:36 PM

Kishimoto kind of lost, but that doesn't mean we won. 
I really don't want to rain on anyones parade, but really, no matter what Kishimoto will say, it doesn't change what has happened. A lost war is a lost war, no matter the circumstences of how it ended. The difference between a white flag and the battle till the last man fell only changes how the war itself is looked upon.
The damage is done.
Even if they decide to make a NaruSaku ending because the sales were so bad or Kishimoto get's on his knees begging for us to listen that he always wanted NS and was forced by those bad bad people to make NH, it won't undo the movie and the real ending. It's the same crap that JK did with Harry Potter. The Story was done, written and sold. End of it. They failed, and no matter how much they try to justify or repair it, the trust broken by the fans will never be undone. I for example will never in my life watch another creation of this man, and the story can be told 1000x better than Naruto. 
I wouldn't care.


The mere that he was okay with calling this couple the red herring. Okay with having Sakura downplay the feelings Naruto had for her in the movie? Okay with allowing this movie to pretty much erase the bond that NS had in general and give the heroine title to a side character speaks volumes. All trust is lost and those who feel chested in Japan with this movie, I hope they're done with this crappy author also.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 03:53 PM

I suppose that influences spoke in volumes regarding the ending. Kishimoto is not stupid unlike some around here might consider. It is quite the opposite, let's take Sai for example. A simplistic yet great idea; he used this character as a placeholder for him to tell different scenes and most importantly, squeeze out the importance of this story. He also tried to hint at the ending pairing for so many times but something just happened.

 

Was it the assistance he received from his co-workers or the studio? We might never know but I will be able to accept, for one, the rightful ending.



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Posted 07 December 2014 - 04:05 PM

What I think is so exquisitely bogus about Sakura's dismissal of Naruto's feelings is where she gets off thinking Naruto had something to compete against. If Sasuke actually expressed some form of affection toward Sakura, rather than perpetual disregard, I could almost, maybe, see it, but Sakura's feelings for Sasuke were always one-sided. By Sakura's logic, Naruto would have been going after the whole harem of girls from their class who had one-sided infatuations with Sasuke. But he didn't. WHY? Because he was only ever interested in Sakura!



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Posted 07 December 2014 - 04:19 PM

@tony blu
No he is stupid author. NS made me refuse to see that.




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