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#11501 ultranx

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 02:39 AM

Nope. He can't just retcon the entire ending. Even if the spin off isn't writter by Kishimoto, it's still part of the Naruto universe canon. What's done is done

yes he can, other series have done it as people have said, and the anime could easily have another ending, heck they already contradicted the ending with the mecha naruto fillers and the road to ninja movie, you're telling me they can't have an alternate ending and multiple different spinoffs and universes? dragon ball seemed to have no problem with  trying to retcon gt now did it?


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 02:46 AM

yes he can, other series have done it as people have said, and the anime could easily have another ending, heck they already contradicted the ending with the mecha naruto fillers and the road to ninja movie, you're telling me they can't have an alternate ending and multiple different spinoffs and universes? dragon ball seemed to have no problem with  trying to retcon gt now did it?

the last is your gt.



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Posted 13 November 2014 - 02:46 AM

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UGH. I want to punch her so kittening hard right now. 
They are kittening exaggerating about Hinata, she's so overraterd. UGH.


OH MY GOD.
Oh. My. God.
OH MY kittening GOD!!
They're praising Hinata for "actually intiating contact with Naruto"?
Praise Sakura and Sasuke then for putting up with Naruto's ass all through Part 1!!
They're praising Hinata for "being one of the few ninja not to cheat on the chunin exam"?
Praise Sakura then for not cheating AND being the only one to get 100% on the kittening test!!
(they also didn't mention how Hinata tried to get Naruto to cheat lol)
They're praising Hinata for creating her own jutsu "at the age of 16"?
Praise Kakashi then for creating his lightening blade at the age of 12!!
Just...wow.
And the worst part is is that this blog got over 25 000 notes with the poster adding in the tag that Hinata "STILL doesn't get enough credit".

Hahahahaha. What a joke.
Proof that Hinata is the most overrated character in all anime. XD

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 02:47 AM

the last is your gt.

my point is the anime is completely different from the manga most of the time with the edits to the story and the stuff they add, they could easily have an alternate ending or spinoffs with different endings. people have even said before how studio pierrot could possibly change the ending because they've done it to other anime  they have done before, naruto is not their first anime dude, its just their most famous, but they don't have to follow what kishimoto does completely, and they usually don't either  :confused: and yes the last and the last naruto chapters could be gt in this case, just because its canon doesn't stop them from being able to change it, the creators of gt sure didn't have a problem making it when akira didn't want them to


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 02:52 AM

I'll admit my data is a few years old and I haven't seen any up to date rankings but I remember a few years ago SS being the most popular hetero pairing. I don't think I could believe SS being the last minute one when so much of the final arc dealt with Sakura's feelings for Sasuke and Sasuke's feelings for Team 7 and they actually got a) another confession from Sakura and b) interactions in 699 that are romantic in nature.
 
NH is just kind of glossed over and then suddenly they're together in 700. Info we've got about The Last says it fills in the gap between 699 and 700 but would not be necessary to understand the ending. That to me says that SS was the pairing Kishi wanted to focus on at the very end.
 

So it seems like Kishi actually doesn't have all that much to do with The Last outside of character designs?
It seems as though romance to him wasn't such an important thing to his story that he was willing to let others decide it for him?


I think the women's user name is netfish, she said NH first and then SS.

SS wasn't going to work until they decided with NH. Naruto was not going to be alone, he is the mc.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 03:08 AM

I still think SS was Kishimoto's final couple due to his love for Sasuke--and that NH came after it.
When he used to be cool Kishi actually defended Sakura in an interview stating that she was the heroine and not Hinata. He didn't really care about Hinata as far as I can tell with her minor appearances and tripping-over-rock scenes.
But I guess fandom got to him and he handed the crown over to Hinata-sama. If anyone deserved to be happy due to suffering and achievements it was Sakura..not overrated Miss Hyuga Hinata.
(Sorry I still love Hinata deep down. Its just her fandom I don't like)

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 03:09 AM

my point is the anime is completely different from the manga most of the time with the edits to the story and the stuff they add, they could easily have an alternate ending or spinoffs with different endings. people have even said before how studio pierrot could possibly change the ending because they've done it to other anime  they have done before, naruto is not their first anime dude, its just their most famous, but they don't have to follow what kishimoto does completely, and they usually don't either  :confused: and yes the last and the last naruto chapters could be gt in this case, just because its canon doesn't stop them from being able to change it, the creators of gt sure didn't have a problem making it when akira didn't want them to


The anime may of had some things different from the manga, but it's mostly been a faithful adaptation of the manga. So you can expect to see Himawari, Bolt and the other kids at the end of the anime

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 03:18 AM

Exactly, and the fact even if Goku was surprised by seeing Chi Chi again at the 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament, he still knew in his heart he wanted to marry Chi Chi after their fight, and they loved each other a lot. It's one reason I think NaruSaku would have worked since it also has parallels compared to Goku x Chi Chi :smile:


Agree. I believe this was changed for money. Look all this new era project. Hinita is the main heroine now.

Kishi excuse he can't write romance is a lie, he did it in a action genre. He said that so they can get away with this SS/NH set up. SP and his assistants wanted it.

Narusaku is like gokuchichi.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 03:46 AM

Ugggh, I wish this movie never even existed, I was thinking maybe I'll give it a shot eventually but now, I don't think I can bear to watch a single scene, knowing there are tons of NH moments in this movie..T_T

                                 
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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:16 AM

Haha a Hinata clock. Seriously? 

 

There's no way this whole thing isn't just a way to milk Hinata's (and her voice actress') popularity for all the money it can. Good marketing move, I guess. 


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:19 AM

Wish they could make a hinata pillow ): ... so I can beat the kitten out of it.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:26 AM

Wish they could make a hinata pillow ): ... so I can beat the kitten out of it.

Por que tanta agresividad? LOL


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:30 AM

Por que tanta agresividad? LOL


Porque ya me tiene hasta la madre la pinche hinata ! HAHAHA BYE.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:33 AM

Haha a Hinata clock. Seriously? 

 

There's no way this whole thing isn't just a way to milk Hinata's (and her voice actress') popularity for all the money it can. Good marketing move, I guess. 

Yeah, it was all about popularity. I think Karin simply wasn't popular enough, especially compared to Hinata, so they just changed the ending.

if Karin had been as popular as Hinata i believe SK and NS would have happened, as planned.



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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:34 AM

Wish they could make a hinata pillow ): ... so I can beat the kitten out of it.

You mean shaped like or just a pillow? Cause...

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They also have...well... a naughty one as well : |


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:40 AM

You mean shaped like or just a pillow? Cause...
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They also have...well... a naughty one as well : |


A Hinata dildo?

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:42 AM

You mean shaped like or just a pillow? Cause...
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They also have...well... a naughty one as well : |


This is perfect.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:43 AM

Yeah, it was all about popularity. I think Karin simply wasn't popular enough, especially compared to Hinata, so they just changed the ending.
if Karin had been as popular as Hinata i believe SK and NS would have happened, as planned.

everything about Hinata popular: the few times we see her in the manga, Kishi depicts her like an angel and savior to naruto; her episodes are always animated on some oscarquality; her voice actress is a star over there in japan; her new fighting outfit is echi and pure fanservice. As if Karin can keep up with her...

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:52 AM

everything about Hinata popular: the few times we see her in the manga, Kishi depicts her like an angel and savior to naruto; her episodes are always animated on some oscarquality; her voice actress is a star over there in japan; her new fighting outfit is echi and pure fanservice. As if Karin can keep up with her...


I like Karin but she's not that great...too obsessed with Sasuke.
If anything Sakura should have been the most popular female due to heroine status and her pure kick ass-ness.
But it's a twisted world we live in...one where minor characters are worshipped like goddesses while real goddesses are scorned as the devil lol.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:55 AM

I like Karin but she's not that great...too obsessed with Sasuke.
If anything Sakura should have been the most popular female due to heroine status and her pure kick ass-ness.
But it's a twisted world we live in...one where minor characters are worshipped like goddesses while real goddesses are scorned as the devil lol.


I still don't get the hype for hinata. Sure, she's cute. Sure she's nice. Sure she has big kittens.

big kittening wop!

I rather have Sakura. She's is perfectly imperfect & that's why I adore her so much.

Why praise a goddess like character & not someone that's actually..human?

Queen Sakura will forever be the best in my eyes.

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