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#41 Inferno180

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:47 PM

In the line of how this spoiler is saying Kagyua is defeated, if it is the end then yeah I would have gone and said this would have been better if the fight was about 15 to 20 chapters.

 

Given that Kagyuas fight was short but the highest stakes one, Kagyua wasn't the actual villian, that was whoever was in control at the time like Obito/Madara and otherwise black zetsu. To me, Kagyua is more like just the final hazard, the powerful being who brings ruin in some form type deal but not the insginator. This is common in many older RPGs where you face the villian and then, like I said before with the twist of what black zetsu did to madara, the villian you spent most of the time fighting around the game is beaten in some way by your efforts but then the "ancient evil" or "powerful deity" emerges and is usually the final boss of these games, otherwise the final hazard of the story. Recently that game bravely default did this, you go through the game and when you come to face the insginator, the villian, when you beat them, that person had a master, something that wanted to break free of a prison and attack the heavens, it was much stronger in terms of what it displayed but the fight is not that long.

 

My point is, any story, the villian isn't always the biggest threat, sometimes there is something more that serves as the hazard, as a result of what the villian brought about.

 

Kagyua isn't a villian who we had to explore or know, she is a villian that just presented the biggest threat to the heroes and the world itself, viturally almost eliminating all of humankind in the naruto verse. Basically the crisis had happened once in the past and some people fell victim to it, this time it needs to be stopped for good.

 

As spoilers will say this or that, I won't go believing the stuff till I actually see it, but just on this though, we don't know if something else will occur or if the fight has actually ended. I mean is Madara still around? Will he come back? Could Kagyua possibly go into a berserk ten tails form? Apart from how it was presented, Kagyua was more of just a direct threat, not one for the motives or understanding of it, she was just the highest stakes villian, the result of the plan of the others, the consequence of what Obito and Madara fooled around with for so long, she was beyond their control.



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:48 PM

I just hope it's really over... I've had enough of this 'war'

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:49 PM

@rocci everything... I am dissapointed about how kishi dealt the fights ever since the war and after obito it became even more annoying... It's copy paste plus some Sakura and Kakashi around there... Evrn tho I still enjoy some details of the story, overall I am highly dissapointed in Naruto as a manga and Kishi as a writer but meh... To me it looks recently that he is tired of this himself and it's doing stuff to milk some more money. I can't believe I have gotten to say this myself but.. here I am...

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:54 PM

@chatte
I understand, war arc take 4 year and every big fight is recycled of obito fight.
Do you think the manga will end in this year or there would be part 3.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:55 PM

@rocci everything... I am dissapointed about how kishi dealt the fights ever since the war and after obito it became even more annoying... It's copy paste plus some Sakura and Kakashi around there... Evrn tho I still enjoy some details of the story, overall I am highly dissapointed in Naruto as a manga and Kishi as a writer but meh... To me it looks recently that he is tired of this himself and it's doing stuff to milk some more money. I can't believe I have gotten to say this myself but.. here I am...

I wouldn't say that the Naruto manga overall sucked, after all, Kishi created the characters we here are about to discuss and admire. I think, overall he did a fantastic job for keeping me on track when I'm so known of to lose interest fast. Yeah. the end will kinda lack a bit of flavor, but hey, Kishi is, after all, only human with his own flaws and specialitys. I'm just gonna enjoy this roller coaster until the end, although there probably won't be anymore ups to look forward except canon for my favorites :3
(But yeah the war is horrible)


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:58 PM

@chatte
I understand, war arc take 4 year and every big fight is recycled of obito fight.
Do you think the manga will end in this year or there would be part 3.

 

The chances of a part 3 are kinda slim at the moment, but it would be cool to see. 


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:59 PM

Ok probably I expressed myself bad... I am currently dissapointed in the manga overall ever since the war arc cuz its quality dropped really bad.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 01:04 PM

@rocci everything... I am dissapointed about how kishi dealt the fights ever since the war and after obito it became even more annoying... It's copy paste plus some Sakura and Kakashi around there... Evrn tho I still enjoy some details of the story, overall I am highly dissapointed in Naruto as a manga and Kishi as a writer but meh... To me it looks recently that he is tired of this himself and it's doing stuff to milk some more money. I can't believe I have gotten to say this myself but.. here I am...


I agree which is why I want a part 3 because with a part 3 Kishi might fix his mistakes.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 01:07 PM

 
The chances of a part 3 are kinda slim at the moment, but it would be cool to see. 

For me it's 50:50. This manga could end in this year thus skipping naru vs sasu fight or part 3 and make another threat(space ninja) after that naru vs sasu.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 01:10 PM

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2 Madara returns or SO6P betrays.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 01:11 PM

Ok probably I expressed myself bad... I am currently dissapointed in the manga overall ever since the war arc cuz its quality dropped really bad.

Understandable, really. But I could understand Kishi also if he really is growing tired of his own story or at least wants to finish it soon. After all, could you have done something like this for 15 years? I couldn't  :twitch: So although I'm dissapointed in some ways, I won't really hold it against him as it seems he does try his best, after all he let Kaguya be in fact the most powerful creature in the manga, which I honestly thought wouldn't happen :sweat: . 


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 01:12 PM

 

The chances of a part 3 are kinda slim at the moment, but it would be cool to see. 

 

Whether Kishi has consented to allowing a Part 3 or not, I personally don't want Pierrot's hands muddying the flow of Kishi's manga. The quality and intrigue might have dipped to an all time low with the recent arcs, but it's still ultimately Kishi's story. It should be him that ultimately draws the final scene as he resolves the few remaining plot points that are left. He's already admitted to having the ending ingrained in his mind, why should he need to relinquish control of steering the story to that inevitable finale? Leave Pierrot's caricature out of the canonicity where it belongs.



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 01:19 PM

http://www.narusaku....showtopic=14149 - Chapter


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