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Posted 03 December 2016 - 11:25 PM

The only redemption I see: Come clean and kill off the franchise. That is all


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Posted 03 December 2016 - 11:37 PM

The only redemption I see: Come clean and kill of the franchise. That is all


https://m.youtube.co...h?v=kOQzek_Af0Y this is the narusaku fandom for the past two years only replace him saying this no about Ashley and replace it with everything with naruto now and everything with nh and ss. Also include the ichiruki fandom on the ending of bleach.

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 04:23 PM

I remember a while back there being talk of a spin off Itachi series or Sasuke series or general Uchiha series. Did anything ever come of that? 

 

I thought I heard about it when they were doing the novels between Naruto and Bolt. But I could be wrong.

 

Just wondering if the franchise is now all on Boruto or if they're still going to be doing side projects in the future. 



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Posted 04 December 2016 - 07:34 PM

I remember a while back there being talk of a spin off Itachi series or Sasuke series or general Uchiha series. Did anything ever come of that? 

 

I thought I heard about it when they were doing the novels between Naruto and Bolt. But I could be wrong.

 

Just wondering if the franchise is now all on Boruto or if they're still going to be doing side projects in the future. 

It been along time since anyone has mention any of that. So it was probably just a rumor. But if it was true at one point in time. Then that was when they thought they could milk the series for all it worth and still get cash. Once it became clear that wasn't the case they changed it to some filler arcs in the anime. 

 

Yes, they are doing the novels from what I recall they are also adapting the last.

 

Boruto is all they have left. Remember even before the ending Naruto was long past its prime (part one/before pein/before the war take your pick), but it was still a franchise with international recognition and a large fanbase of loyal fans. So having some spin off series about Minato's past, Kakashi's time in the ANBU, Itachi's time in the Akatsuki, Sasuke's wandering journey of redemption, and a sequel of the next generation could have been successful spin offs that each bring in a moderate amount of money to those companies. Then the ending happened. Then the last came out. Then the fans left. Then the franchise collapse. Now Boruto is all they have left, and someone is desperate to keep this franchise afloat. 


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 03:29 AM

I remember a while back there being talk of a spin off Itachi series or Sasuke series or general Uchiha series. Did anything ever come of that? 
 
I thought I heard about it when they were doing the novels between Naruto and Bolt. But I could be wrong.
 
Just wondering if the franchise is now all on Boruto or if they're still going to be doing side projects in the future.


I am trying so hard to resist the easy lay-up here.....

Ah, what they hell. They already came out with the Sasuke and Uchiha series. It's called Part 2.

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 04:14 PM

It been along time since anyone has mention any of that. So it was probably just a rumor. But if it was true at one point in time. Then that was when they thought they could milk the series for all it worth and still get cash. Once it became clear that wasn't the case they changed it to some filler arcs in the anime. 

 

Yes, they are doing the novels from what I recall they are also adapting the last.

 

Boruto is all they have left. Remember even before the ending Naruto was long past its prime (part one/before pein/before the war take your pick), but it was still a franchise with international recognition and a large fanbase of loyal fans. So having some spin off series about Minato's past, Kakashi's time in the ANBU, Itachi's time in the Akatsuki, Sasuke's wandering journey of redemption, and a sequel of the next generation could have been successful spin offs that each bring in a moderate amount of money to those companies. Then the ending happened. Then the last came out. Then the fans left. Then the franchise collapse. Now Boruto is all they have left, and someone is desperate to keep this franchise afloat. 

I don't know why I remembered it. Just thinking that I was expecting more Naruto things in the "New Era Project" than just the Boruto manga. But you're right, Boruto seems to be all they have left. And they're focusing exclusively on that...while not doing a very good job at it!

 

I am trying so hard to resist the easy lay-up here.....

Ah, what they hell. They already came out with the Sasuke and Uchiha series. It's called Part 2.

Bwhahaha! Glad you went there - you're right! Why didn't I see it myself! I could have answered my own question!  :lol:



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Posted 05 December 2016 - 04:47 PM

I don't know why I remembered it. Just thinking that I was expecting more Naruto things in the "New Era Project" than just the Boruto manga. But you're right, Boruto seems to be all they have left. And they're focusing exclusively on that...while not doing a very good job at it!

 

Bwhahaha! Glad you went there - you're right! Why didn't I see it myself! I could have answered my own question!  :lol:

But what about Hinata I mean shoudn't she be added in there as well since the whole manga was retconed for her as well, then again with have Hinata the Last retcon,



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 06:30 AM

Considering the latest fillers are apparently all about trying to justify and more greatly canonize The Last....no chance anymore.

 

 

It been along time since anyone has mention any of that. So it was probably just a rumor. But if it was true at one point in time. Then that was when they thought they could milk the series for all it worth and still get cash. Once it became clear that wasn't the case they changed it to some filler arcs in the anime. 

 

Yes, they are doing the novels from what I recall they are also adapting the last.

 

Boruto is all they have left. Remember even before the ending Naruto was long past its prime (part one/before pein/before the war take your pick), but it was still a franchise with international recognition and a large fanbase of loyal fans. So having some spin off series about Minato's past, Kakashi's time in the ANBU, Itachi's time in the Akatsuki, Sasuke's wandering journey of redemption, and a sequel of the next generation could have been successful spin offs that each bring in a moderate amount of money to those companies. Then the ending happened. Then the last came out. Then the fans left. Then the franchise collapse. Now Boruto is all they have left, and someone is desperate to keep this franchise afloat. 


FYI the novels that are being adapted into the anime are NOT written by Kishimoto not a single one of them, He had ZERO involvement in the development of the story in each of them, Studio Pierrot hired story writers who were responsible for most of the filler story Naruto Shippuden anime episodes to create scenarios that explore the stories of each of the main Naruto characters after the manga concluded, The reason Studio Pierrot Hired temporary/Replacement Naruto story writers because they couldn't get a hold of Kishimoto to do it because of his busy schedule of him working on the Boruto Manga and his new science fiction manga



The ONLY involvement Kishimoto had with the Novels is illustrating and drawing the cover art of each of the novels nothing more, he didn't even write ONE sentence of story in those novels:

http://naruto.wikia....ki/Naruto_Hiden



So therefore guys don't get to distraught about the stories the novels tell that will be adapted into the anime they are just more fillers produced by the same money lusting Studio Pierrot but written into a Novel this time, As HalfDemonInuyasha Pointed out Studio Pierrot is trying to Justify and more greatly canonize the last because NaruHina is doing so bad in Japan that even a Yaoi Pairing such as KakashiXIruka is doing MILES better than NaruHina, NaruHina is really doing that bad In Japan



Since NONE of these Novels are written by Kishimoto they should be considered NON CANNON they are not Kishimoto's work, this also means that NONE of these novels have a impact on the theory I created a while back that proves that Kishimoto and Ikemoto are going to break up the families of NarutoXHinata and SasukeXSakura



So don't lose hope NaruSaku fans NarutoXSakura will happen in the new Boruto Manga!


Edited by BestSasuHinaSupporter, 06 December 2016 - 06:34 AM.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 08:54 AM

 

 

FYI the novels that are being adapted into the anime are NOT written by Kishimoto not a single one of them, He had ZERO involvement in the development of the story in each of them, Studio Pierrot hired story writers who were responsible for most of the filler story Naruto Shippuden anime episodes to create scenarios that explore the stories of each of the main Naruto characters after the manga concluded, The reason Studio Pierrot Hired temporary/Replacement Naruto story writers because they couldn't get a hold of Kishimoto to do it because of his busy schedule of him working on the Boruto Manga and his new science fiction manga



The ONLY involvement Kishimoto had with the Novels is illustrating and drawing the cover art of each of the novels nothing more, he didn't even write ONE sentence of story in those novels:

http://naruto.wikia....ki/Naruto_Hiden



So therefore guys don't get to distraught about the stories the novels tell that will be adapted into the anime they are just more fillers produced by the same money lusting Studio Pierrot but written into a Novel this time, As HalfDemonInuyasha Pointed out Studio Pierrot is trying to Justify and more greatly canonize the last because NaruHina is doing so bad in Japan that even a Yaoi Pairing such as KakashiXIruka is doing MILES better than NaruHina, NaruHina is really doing that bad In Japan



Since NONE of these Novels are written by Kishimoto they should be considered NON CANNON they are not Kishimoto's work, this also means that NONE of these novels have a impact on the theory I created a while back that proves that Kishimoto and Ikemoto are going to break up the families of NarutoXHinata and SasukeXSakura



So don't lose hope NaruSaku fans NarutoXSakura will happen in the new Boruto Manga!

As much as I would like that, NS won't happen. They're not going to bring a break up of families and stuff like that.



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 10:54 AM

As much as I would like that, NS won't happen. They're not going to bring a break up of families and stuff like that.


Actually I have proof that they will, It's my new theory that will prove that NaruSaku and SasuHina will happen in the new Boruto manga, I'm almost finished with it I should be able to get the topic posted some time this week, I want you guys to keep a vigilant eye out for it!



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 11:01 AM

Actually I have proof that they will, It's my new theory that will prove that NaruSaku and SasuHina will happen in the new Boruto manga, I'm almost finished with it I should be able to get the topic posted some time this week, I want you guys to keep a vigilant eye out for it!

Looking forward to see it and examine it XD Though, a theory isn't a proof. A theory is a set of suppositions. 


Edited by T XD, 06 December 2016 - 11:09 AM.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 01:33 PM

Actually I have proof that they will, It's my new theory that will prove that NaruSaku and SasuHina will happen in the new Boruto manga, I'm almost finished with it I should be able to get the topic posted some time this week, I want you guys to keep a vigilant eye out for it!

 

Cool, another theory. I love reading these, although I know nothing will change story wise, but hey not much else is happening lately so can't wait for this.

 

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On the side note, while browsing YT yesterday, I stumbled upon a video from Episode 427 and 428 of Shippuuden which takes place in RtN universe and I decided to accept this reality as canon. I have long considered RtN to be my favorite movie and these two episodes only fortify my decision. They have Hinata that I actually can stand and don't find annoying, they have Sakura that likes Naruto/Menma and more importantly shows her punch Sasuke right into the wall, which should have happened in canon like million times by now.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 01:47 PM

 

....... NaruHina is doing so bad in Japan that even a Yaoi Pairing such as KakashiXIruka is doing MILES better than NaruHina, NaruHina is really doing that bad In Japan

 

 

Is there an actual proof of this? I doubt there are any SJ officially sanctioned popularity polls going on.

I hear the manga sales are weak, but that doesn't automatically put the blame on NaruHina.

 

Not that I don't want to believe it, but there are just too many information spreading out there, that are just fabricated nonsense, taken as facts.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 01:58 PM

 

 

FYI the novels that are being adapted into the anime are NOT written by Kishimoto not a single one of them, He had ZERO involvement in the development of the story in each of them, Studio Pierrot hired story writers who were responsible for most of the filler story Naruto Shippuden anime episodes to create scenarios that explore the stories of each of the main Naruto characters after the manga concluded, The reason Studio Pierrot Hired temporary/Replacement Naruto story writers because they couldn't get a hold of Kishimoto to do it because of his busy schedule of him working on the Boruto Manga and his new science fiction manga



The ONLY involvement Kishimoto had with the Novels is illustrating and drawing the cover art of each of the novels nothing more, he didn't even write ONE sentence of story in those novels:

http://naruto.wikia....ki/Naruto_Hiden



So therefore guys don't get to distraught about the stories the novels tell that will be adapted into the anime they are just more fillers produced by the same money lusting Studio Pierrot but written into a Novel this time, As HalfDemonInuyasha Pointed out Studio Pierrot is trying to Justify and more greatly canonize the last because NaruHina is doing so bad in Japan that even a Yaoi Pairing such as KakashiXIruka is doing MILES better than NaruHina, NaruHina is really doing that bad In Japan



Since NONE of these Novels are written by Kishimoto they should be considered NON CANNON they are not Kishimoto's work, this also means that NONE of these novels have a impact on the theory I created a while back that proves that Kishimoto and Ikemoto are going to break up the families of NarutoXHinata and SasukeXSakura



So don't lose hope NaruSaku fans NarutoXSakura will happen in the new Boruto Manga!

 

You know, I forgot that he didn't write those. But you're right - his involvement supposedly ended with the Last, and everything else is New Era stuff, which he's supposed to have only overseen. I'm sure he knew/approved what was in them, but didn't write them. Honestly, from what I've heard about those novels, they seem just like scripts for anime episodes. So not really a completely separate item...just another way for them to profit from the same story.

 

I am surprised that Kishimoto drew Sakura's cover art. It looks so depressed, and nothing like her. It's like they turned Sakura into the introspective, insecure one (instead of her as the fighter and partner of Naruto), and they've turned Hinata into the smiley-faced, susie homemaker (when she was always the introverted, insecure, "weird" one).

 

I have never liked the cover art of Sakura. Looks so unlike her. And it's sad to think that such a powerful character looks so unsure of herself at the end of the long series, when she should be coming off more powerful than ever. 



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 02:16 PM

 

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I am surprised that Kishimoto drew Sakura's cover art. It looks so depressed, and nothing like her. It's like they turned Sakura into the introspective, insecure one (instead of her as the fighter and partner of Naruto), and they've turned Hinata into the smiley-faced, susie homemaker (when she was always the introverted, insecure, "weird" one).

 

I have never liked the cover art of Sakura. Looks so unlike her. And it's sad to think that such a powerful character looks so unsure of herself at the end of the long series, when she should be coming off more powerful than ever. 

 

Glad to see I'm not the only one who disliked the cover art of her novel. Personally, I loved how Sakura looked throughout the series. but this ... hardly looks like her at all. Even in everything that came after, she looks nothing like the girl on her novel's cover. Almost as if it wasn't Kishi that drew this at all.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 06:22 PM

 

 

FYI the novels that are being adapted into the anime are NOT written by Kishimoto not a single one of them, He had ZERO involvement in the development of the story in each of them, Studio Pierrot hired story writers who were responsible for most of the filler story Naruto Shippuden anime episodes to create scenarios that explore the stories of each of the main Naruto characters after the manga concluded, The reason Studio Pierrot Hired temporary/Replacement Naruto story writers because they couldn't get a hold of Kishimoto to do it because of his busy schedule of him working on the Boruto Manga and his new science fiction manga



The ONLY involvement Kishimoto had with the Novels is illustrating and drawing the cover art of each of the novels nothing more, he didn't even write ONE sentence of story in those novels:

http://naruto.wikia....ki/Naruto_Hiden



So therefore guys don't get to distraught about the stories the novels tell that will be adapted into the anime they are just more fillers produced by the same money lusting Studio Pierrot but written into a Novel this time, As HalfDemonInuyasha Pointed out Studio Pierrot is trying to Justify and more greatly canonize the last because NaruHina is doing so bad in Japan that even a Yaoi Pairing such as KakashiXIruka is doing MILES better than NaruHina, NaruHina is really doing that bad In Japan



Since NONE of these Novels are written by Kishimoto they should be considered NON CANNON they are not Kishimoto's work, this also means that NONE of these novels have a impact on the theory I created a while back that proves that Kishimoto and Ikemoto are going to break up the families of NarutoXHinata and SasukeXSakura



So don't lose hope NaruSaku fans NarutoXSakura will happen in the new Boruto Manga!

The problem is that we don't want it to happen in the new Boruto manga unless they actually go back and address ALL the previous crap they did. If they simply have Hinata die or something and just throw Naruto and Sakura together, it would still suck and drive people away because we want there to be actual development leading up to it so it feels earned, not out of some obvious desperate attempt to win back fans..


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 07:00 PM

The problem is that we don't want it to happen in the new Boruto manga unless they actually go back and address ALL the previous crap they did. If they simply have Hinata die or something and just throw Naruto and Sakura together, it would still suck and drive people away because we want there to be actual development leading up to it so it feels earned, not out of some obvious desperate attempt to win back fans..

Yeah, exactly. Although even something like Hinata's death wouldn't cut it, as long as there is Sasuke living and breathing out there, doing whatever he does... Sakura won't budge an inch.

 

But anyways, taking Hinata & Sasuke out of the picture would just be lazy story development.

I can already see how this would go down... Studio Pierrot style... and it ain't pretty.


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 06:20 AM

Hello everyone! I've come to inform you all that the theory that will prove that NarutoXSakura and SasukeXHinata is going to happen in the Boruto Manga will be posted this friday!



Also I will say this before I post my new theory topic on friday, I'm going to explain why there will be Sasuke and Hinata Moments in the new Boruto manga:


In this Page of the first Chapter of the Boruto Manga Boruto says:


Boruto: This isn't a story of a Boy aspiring to be the Hokage that was my dads story


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That implies that Naruto's story is finished and Naruto will be given little to no roles in this manga

 

 

 

And according to a interview that both Kishimoto and Ukyo Kodachi the writers of the Boruto story plot participated in, the new Boruto manga series will revolve around the story of the protagonist Boruto and Hyuga princess Hinata, both Boruto and Hinata are being Hinted to be the main characters of this storyline, Here is the report of the interview Kishimoto and Ukyo Kodachi participated in:

http://www.vinerepor...ninjas/9377.htm



So if Sasuke is going to be a Main character training Boruto, and as explained in the Boruto manga that the wont revolve around Naruto's story meaning he wont get many roles in it which means he's out of the picture, so shouldn't that mean that Sasuke and Hinata will get more moments together and actually develop some type of relationship ? Because if Hinata and Boruto are going to be close shouldn't it make sense for her to finally get closer to Sasuke ? and isn't it about time she finally learns about the man that her husband Naruto respects so much ?




 

The problem is that we don't want it to happen in the new Boruto manga unless they actually go back and address ALL the previous crap they did. If they simply have Hinata die or something and just throw Naruto and Sakura together, it would still suck and drive people away because we want there to be actual development leading up to it so it feels earned, not out of some obvious desperate attempt to win back fans..

 

 

Yeah, exactly. Although even something like Hinata's death wouldn't cut it, as long as there is Sasuke living and breathing out there, doing whatever he does... Sakura won't budge an inch.

 

But anyways, taking Hinata & Sasuke out of the picture would just be lazy story development.

I can already see how this would go down... Studio Pierrot style... and it ain't pretty.

 



Well HalfDemonInuyasha and VoodooFX As a SasukeXHinata Supporter I must regretfully say this, The probability of both Sasuke and Hinata dying in the new Boruto Manga is very high and I will explain why:


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Boruto appears to be wearing Sasuke's Cape and Wielding His Sword and what appears to be in his right eye is the Byakugan and Judging by the scar on his right eye heavily implies he lost his original right eye so he had a Byakugan eye transplanted into his right eye socket and Boruto was shown to not be born with the Byakugan because if he did why would he need to transplant a Byakugan into a Byakugan ? 



Sure combining 2 mangekyou sharingan's will cause those 2 mangekyou sharingans to fuse into the eternal mangekyou sharingan but the Byakugan doesn't work that way, Byakugan doesn't grow stronger by combining 2 of them, But However the Tenseigan is created by combining a thousand Byakugan eyes so combining just 2 is definitely not enough unless Hinata's Byakugan is stronger than the average one which will awaken the Tenseigan in Boruto's right eye without the thousand Byakugan combining requirement



It is very much likely that the Byakugan in Boruto's right eye was originally Hinata's because it couldn't have been some random other Hyuga because the other Hyuga clansmen have the curse seal on their forehead which prevents the removal of the Byakugan, And many years have past by during the time between Naruto Shippuden and the Boruto Manga so Hiashi Hyuga (Hinata's Father) Could have probably died of old age by Now so It couldn't have been His Byakugan, And that Hyuga Elder is probably definitely gone probably died LONG before the events of the Boruto Manga,  And Hanabi is no where to be found Seriously what happened to her ? it's like she faded from existence after the events of (The Last Naruto The Movie) Hanabi wasn't even at the chunin exams to watch her Nephew (Boruto) fight there 



And the Byakugan in Boruto's right eye is most likely NOT Himawari's because I find it unlikely that Kishimoto would kill off Himawari because the new Boruto manga is about the development of the next generation of Ninja Himawari is apart of that generation, her story is just beginning Hinata's ended which means there really isn't nothing left to do with her character that can be said for Sasuke as well



What I can theorize about Kawaki is that he is trained in a new age combat system that surpasses the Ninja Arts so he began to Hunt down any and all Ninja for a reason and motive that has yet to be explained in the Boruto manga, Boruto and Kawaki had fought once before before this fight that is being shown right now, Boruto lost the first fight against Kawaki and Kawaki was about to kill him, Kawaki slashed out Boruto's right eye then Sasuke and Hinata attempted to save Boruto from Kawaki but they failed to do so and they were killed but before they died Sasuke and Hinata gave Boruto a parting gift so that he will always have something to remember them by, Hinata gave Boruto a Byakugan to replace his lost eye, and Sasuke gave Boruto his cloak and sword and thats probably how Boruto looks the way he is in his 2nd fight with Kawaki shown above




Yes I believe Kawaki Single handedly destroyed the leaf village, because from what is shown of the leaf village at the time Boruto and Kawaki is fighting it is absolutely obliterated and destroyed with no signs of people what so ever, All that remains is Boruto and Kawaki fighting, And from what has been shown to us so far Boruto hasn't shown the power of city level destruction so it couldn't have been him, But Kawaki yes because he said "I will be sending you to meet the 7th":

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This implies Kawaki is responsible for either defeating or killing Naruto and we all know what kind of power Naruto has, So if your able to defeat someone as powerful as Naruto is you have to very much likely be possessing some pretty destructive power, So yes Kawaki is likely responsible for the leaf villages destruction, or the leaf villages destruction is the aftermath of Naruto defending the leaf village from Kawaki but still if you're able to cause Naruto to be pushed to the point of using excessive power then you must be one damn powerful person



So Boruto will need more than just a mere Byakugan and a Sword/Cape to defeat Kawaki because Naruto who possesses power far greater than the Byakugan and a Sword/Cape was defeated by Kawaki So what will Boruto do to win ? Unless Boruto is now on par with Kawaki during their 2nd fight because it appears that both Boruto and Kawaki have those odd tattoos on their right arm, that could be a technique of the new age combat system that surpassed the Ninja arts that enabled Kawaki to defeat/kill all other ninja including Naruto/Sasuke/Hinata and Sakura so at some point during the events of the Boruto Manga Boruto had to learn and master this unnamed new age combat system in order to counter the other people who also practice that art (Kawaki) because he seen the Ninja arts fail such as seeing Sasuke/Hinata/ and Naruto strongest Ninja currently die right in front of him, Their deaths inspired him to come to the realization that being a Ninja just isn't enough so what better way to counter someone with power greater than your own ? gain their power!




Well we still don't know what truly happened to Naruto/Sasuke/Hinata/And Sakura, the Boruto manga has to progress to that point but judging from this analysis made we can say that their fates are grave. 


Edited by BestSasuHinaSupporter, 08 December 2016 - 10:51 AM.





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