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[lupina]

 

Right? RIGHT?! 

[Otaru]

And this was a story about NINJAS... lol

[Nar123]

Don't think I've seen this posted yet. Saw this on tumblr. I guess it's a clearer summary of the movie.
 
5 Kage meeting is urgently held. On the board are the leaders of the nations, Raikage, Mizukage, Tsuchikage, Gaara and At this rate the moon will disintegrate into wrecks to bombard the earth. Countdown to human extinction has already started. Shinobis have fallen into confusion. Naruto with Sakura, Shikamaru, Sai and Hinata embarks on the investigation and gets to an alien subterranean space where a gigantic spell/curse seal/mark is engraved. Awaiting there are a certain scheme and an unbelievable name.
 
Source :http://www.naruto-mo...m/sp/story.html
 
Credits to takl from NarutoForums for the translation

In part 3, Naruto gonna die fighting an alien and then sasuke will train Bolt! Two another aliens will come to the earth to fight the ninjas! Naruto will come back with the help from the dragon balls and will defeat the aliens with his bigger strength!

Wait...wrong anime

[shisui]

Errr, no. Kishimoto flat out confirmed her pairing fodder status in the latest interview. The fact that she's portrayed as nothing but a housewife in the epilogue tells you all you need to know about what her goals in life really were.

 

So don't make Naruto overly obsessed with Sasuke to begin with. It's unacceptable how a total a**hole got away with just a slap on the wrist and even got what the main character pursued for a good portion of the manga. The Sasuke wank from Kishimoto is ridiculous and completely ruined this series.

 

Such accomplishments resulted in no growth in personality or character, so it doesn't matter. If I can't sympathize with a character's goals (especially when it's the heroine of the story), that character is a failure in my book.

 

It's not like she had to end up with Naruto. Just don't revert her to her Part 1 self and have her pathetically trying to abandon her family and friends for a guy who always treated her badly.

 

I agree with you that Kishi could have done better. However, I don't agree with you when you say that Sakura is simply pairing fodder, because that's not true. For a NaruSaku fan, this answer surprises the most. Sakura's been by Naruto's side all this time. They may not be a couple, but not being one doesn't erase the past. If Sakura forgave Sasuke, then it's forgiven, and I fail to see how this makes her a worse character than Naruto, who has done worse things for his so called best friend.

 

Sakura wanted to go with Sasuke so he wouldn't be lonely anymore. That's very kind of her and I can't hate it. It's perfectly IC of her too, she has been kind and she has always wanted to help him, and that is consistent with her character. She has forgiven him and if that's genuine, there's no point in going back and forth with it. She likes him and is asking to go with him, of course she's blushing. I understand some will hate it, but it's not OOC or regression.

 

Going with him doesn't mean that she was abandoning her friends and family either. She may go for a time, but she would come back eventually. Jiraiya and Itachi weren't permanent residents, yet they were loyal to the village all along. Tsunade and Shizune eventually came back to the village after leaving it. Naruto left temporarily for three years too. I see no difference.

 

So he will drop -chan in the movie

 

I don't think he will, but who knows at this point. Imagine Naruto calling Hinata with -chan suffix though.

Edited by shisui, 24 November 2014 - 12:00 AM.

[Nar123]

 
I agree with you that Kishi could have done better. However, I don't agree with you when you say that Sakura is simply pairing fodder, because that's not true. For a NaruSaku fan, this answer surprises the most. Sakura's been by Naruto's side all this time. They may not be a couple, but not being one doesn't erase the past. If Sakura forgave Sasuke, then it's forgiven, and I fail to see how this makes her a worse character than Naruto, who has done worse things for his so called best friend.
 
Sakura wanted to go with Sasuke so he wouldn't be lonely anymore. That's very kind of her and I can't hate it. It's perfectly IC of her too, she has been kind and she has always wanted to help him, and that is consistent with her character. She has forgiven him and if that's genuine, there's no point in going back and forth with it. She likes him and is asking to go with him, of course she's blushing. I understand some will hate it, but it's not OOC or regression.
 
Going with him doesn't mean that she was abandoning her friends and family either. She may go for a time, but she would come back eventually. Jiraiya and Itachi weren't permanent residents, yet they were loyal to the village all along. Tsunade and Shizune eventually came back to the village after leaving it. Naruto left temporarily for three years too. I see no difference.
 
 
I don't think he will, but who knows at this point. Imagine Naruto calling Hinata with -chan suffix though.

Theres the thing... Sakura around Sasuke is always this weak, pathetic girl (in her own words!) . She isn't sure of herself, she isn't the sakura we saw mainly at the beginning of part 2, the one that was sure of herself and wanted to get strong to save both of her friends!

I could handle ss ( i guess) but only if Sakura showed progression in the way she related herself to sasuke, if she actually made a stand against him, or even fought against him showcasing that she could be this strong indepedent woman around Sasuke too!

Edited by Nar123, 24 November 2014 - 12:05 AM.

[rinali24]

In part 3, Naruto gonna die fighting an alien and then sasuke will train Bolt! Two another aliens will come to the earth to fight the ninjas! Naruto will come back with the help from the dragon balls and will defeat the aliens with his bigger strength!

Wait...wrong anime

 

Everything changed when the fire nation attacked 

[shisui]

Theres the thing... Sakura around Sasuke is always this weak, pathetic girl (in her own words!) . She isn't sure of herself, she isn't the sakura we saw mainly at the beginning of part 2, the one that was sure of herself and wanted to get strong to save both of her friends!

I could handle ss ( i guess) but only if Sakura showed progression in the way she related herself to sasuke, if she actually made a stand against him, or even fought against him showcasing that she could be this strong indepedent woman around Sasuke too!

 

Sakura's words was that she was pathetic for not knowing how to help him, not because she loves him. She also did make a stand against Sasuke, more than once.

 

 

Don't think I've seen this posted yet. Saw this on tumblr. I guess it's a clearer summary of the movie.

 

5 Kage meeting is urgently held. On the board are the leaders of the nations, Raikage, Mizukage, Tsuchikage, Gaara and… At this rate the moon will disintegrate into wrecks to bombard the earth. Countdown to human extinction has already started. Shinobis have fallen into confusion. Naruto with Sakura, Shikamaru, Sai and Hinata embarks on the investigation and gets to an alien subterranean space where a gigantic spell/curse seal/mark is engraved. Awaiting there are a certain scheme and an unbelievable name.

 

Source :http://www.naruto-mo...m/sp/story.html

 

Credits to takl from NarutoForums for the translation

 

I forget what anime this reminds me of, but it's not Naruto.

[Nar123]

 
Sakura's words was that she was pathetic for not knowing how to help him, not because she loves him. She also did make a stand against Sasuke, more than once.
 
 

I didn't talk about her love for him, but the way she presents herself around him
Thats my main problem with it

[rinali24]

 

Sakura's words was that she was pathetic for not knowing how to help him, not because she loves him. She also did make a stand against Sasuke, more than once.

 

 

 

I forget what anime this reminds me of, but it's not Naruto.

 

Reminds me of the Sailor Moon movie where they had to go to outer space and deal with a parasite and an alien lool 

[trang95]

Don't think I've seen this posted yet. Saw this on tumblr. I guess it's a clearer summary of the movie.

 

5 Kage meeting is urgently held. On the board are the leaders of the nations, Raikage, Mizukage, Tsuchikage, Gaara and… At this rate the moon will disintegrate into wrecks to bombard the earth. Countdown to human extinction has already started. Shinobis have fallen into confusion. Naruto with Sakura, Shikamaru, Sai and Hinata embarks on the investigation and gets to an alien subterranean space where a gigantic spell/curse seal/mark is engraved. Awaiting there are a certain scheme and an unbelievable name.

 

Source :http://www.naruto-mo...m/sp/story.html

 

Credits to takl from NarutoForums for the translation

Are we even sure this is about Naruto, a story about fighting Ninjas and Nakama power?

If I want to watch something about the space and universe, I might as well watch Star Wars or so.

[PhenixElite]

 

I agree with you that Kishi could have done better. However, I don't agree with you when you say that Sakura is simply pairing fodder, because that's not true. For a NaruSaku fan, this answer surprises the most. Sakura's been by Naruto's side all this time. They may not be a couple, but not being one doesn't erase the past. If Sakura forgave Sasuke, then it's forgiven, and I fail to see how this makes her a worse character than Naruto, who has done worse things for his so called best friend.

 

Sakura wanted to go with Sasuke so he wouldn't be lonely anymore. That's very kind of her and I can't hate it. It's perfectly IC of her too, she has been kind and she has always wanted to help him, and that is consistent with her character. She has forgiven him and if that's genuine, there's no point in going back and forth with it. She likes him and is asking to go with him, of course she's blushing. I understand some will hate it, but it's not OOC or regression.

 

Going with him doesn't mean that she was abandoning her friends and family either. She may go for a time, but she would come back eventually. Jiraiya and Itachi weren't permanent residents, yet they were loyal to the village all along. Tsunade and Shizune eventually came back to the village after leaving it. Naruto left temporarily for three years too. I see no difference.

 

 

 

Hmmmm... if you say so. Sakura was portrayed horrible and nothing more then heartless in the end. She lost all development she got. She forgave Sasuke just like that, She didnt thank Naruto, She wanted to leave Naruto alone and go with Sasuke even tho she knew Naruot loved her. So if thats a very kind of Sakura then i seriously start losing hope in humanity. She acted nothing more then selfish.

 

These last chapters completly 100% destroed her character. You could just completely delete her out of the whole manga and the end wouldnt chang at all.

[TsukiChan ♥]

ahem..

Water...Earth...Fire...Air......and Lightening...

 

Long ago, the naruto franchise lived together in peace and harmony

Then? everything changed when SP attacked

Only Masashi Kishimoto, author and mangaka of Naruto could stop them..

But when the world needed him most...he sided with them :(

 

lol xD

[Ether]

I agree with you that Kishi could have done better. However, I don't agree with you when you say that Sakura is simply pairing fodder, because that's not true. For a NaruSaku fan, this answer surprises the most. Sakura's been by Naruto's side all this time. They may not be a couple, but not being one doesn't erase the past. If Sakura forgave Sasuke, then it's forgiven, and I fail to see how this makes her a worse character than Naruto, who has done worse things for his so called best friend.

 

Sakura wanted to go with Sasuke so he wouldn't be lonely anymore. That's very kind of her and I can't hate it. It's perfectly IC of her too, she has been kind and she has always wanted to help him, and that is consistent with her character. She has forgiven him and if that's genuine, there's no point in going back and forth with it. She likes him and is asking to go with him, of course she's blushing. I understand some will hate it, but it's not OOC or regression.

My post on the next page works as a reply to this:

 

I'm sorry, but there's just no defending Sakura. You can say how she's kind for forgiving Sasuke all you want, in reality that's a display of the weakness she always had around him. It doesn't matter if that forehead poke took place months after the last fight, if you don't show that period on panel then I can't sympathize with it. All we got was a quick apology from Sasuke and all was forgiven. SHOW us the long process of forgiveness, don't tell.

 

Oh, that's right, that would require effort and panel time. Kishimoto was so done with the series that he simply rushed everything to end at 700. Who cares if he ruined characters in the process, he already made money from his gullible fanbase.

Also, I have problems with Naruto forgiving Sasuke all too easily too (And Obito). He only acted slightly annoyed both times Sasuke abused Sakura in front of him, as if saying "it's cool, that's just how Sasuke is". Comparing Sakura to Naruto doesn't make it any better, both characters were ruined in favor of Kishimoto's prized Uchiha boy.

Edited by Ether, 24 November 2014 - 12:55 AM.

[Nar123]

Hmmmm... if you say so. Sakura was portrayed horrible and nothing more then heartless in the end. She lost all development she got. She forgave Sasuke just like that, She didnt thank Naruto, She wanted to leave Naruto alone and go with Sasuke even tho she knew Naruot loved her. So if thats a very kind of Sakura then i seriously start losing hope in humanity. She acted nothing more then selfish.
 
These last chapters completly 100% destroed her character. You could just completely delete her out of the whole manga and the end wouldnt chang at all.

Just didn't agree with the last paragraph.
I dont think the ending destroyed her character 100%
She still came a long way from her weak self in part 1. I just think she lacked emotional development, in the end she couldn't fully help naruto and Sasuke as she said in the beginning of part 2, her feelings for sasuke were never given a solid reason and she still acted weak as hell around him.

Well guys in the end it isn't the characters fault
Its all kishi's fault, that guy doesn't know how to develop females characters properly ( he is clueless like that)

[Dario]

 

I agree with you that Kishi could have done better. However, I don't agree with you when you say that Sakura is simply pairing fodder, because that's not true. For a NaruSaku fan, this answer surprises the most. Sakura's been by Naruto's side all this time. They may not be a couple, but not being one doesn't erase the past. If Sakura forgave Sasuke, then it's forgiven, and I fail to see how this makes her a worse character than Naruto, who has done worse things for his so called best friend.

 

Sakura wanted to go with Sasuke so he wouldn't be lonely anymore. That's very kind of her and I can't hate it. It's perfectly IC of her too, she has been kind and she has always wanted to help him, and that is consistent with her character. She has forgiven him and if that's genuine, there's no point in going back and forth with it. She likes him and is asking to go with him, of course she's blushing. I understand some will hate it, but it's not OOC or regression.

 

Going with him doesn't mean that she was abandoning her friends and family either. She may go for a time, but she would come back eventually. Jiraiya and Itachi weren't permanent residents, yet they were loyal to the village all along. Tsunade and Shizune eventually came back to the village after leaving it. Naruto left temporarily for three years too. I see no difference.

 

 

I don't think he will, but who knows at this point. Imagine Naruto calling Hinata with -chan suffix though.

Oh for crying out loud. SHUT THE kitten UP WITH THE IDIOTIC SS ARGUMENTS. I'm coming here because l thought it'd be a safe haven from all the nonsense found everywhere else Naruto related on the internet only to find stupid defenses of the end mess.

 

Sakura is pairing fodder. She hasn't succeeded in any of her stated goals in the narrative outside of getting Sasuke's D and even that wasn't thanks to her own efforts, actions and agency but because she knew a guy who could fix Sauce and deliver him to her on a silver platter. She didn't bring back Sasuke alongside Naruto. She didn't "show them her back" and stop being a hindrance to her teammates as she was completely pointless in everything combat related, being absurdly weaker than both Sasuke and Naruto. Even her medical training ended up amounting to nothing as the last image we see of her, the thing people will ultimately remember is her dusting the shelves of her house in the middle of the day while everyone else is working. She never stopped crying and being useless, she admits it herself before the SN fight.

 

And yes, Naruto's character was ruined too (for different reasons) and yes, sadly, even if NS happend, the same way SS happend, with Sakura being a housewife and nothing else, she'd still be pairing fodder. The only difference is she wouldn't have had to go through the abject humiliation of instantly forgiving the guy who treated her lower than dog kitten for 80% of the narrative and abandoning all her other loved ones for him. Christ, and there's people defending this kitten.

[luffyq1]

ahem..

Water...Earth...Fire...Air......and Lightening...

 

Long ago, the naruto franchise lived together in peace and harmony

Then? everything changed when SP attacked

Only Masashi Kishimoto, author and mangaka of Naruto could stop them..

But when the world needed him most...he sided with them :(

 

lol xD

hahahah i'm dead.

 

 

Oh for crying out loud. SHUT THE kitten UP WITH THE IDIOTIC SS ARGUMENTS. 

that was rude.

Edited by luffyq1, 24 November 2014 - 12:58 AM.

[Nar123]

Oh for crying out loud. SHUT THE kitten UP WITH THE IDIOTIC SS ARGUMENTS. I'm coming here because l thought it'd be a safe haven from all the nonsense found everywhere else Naruto related on the internet only to find stupid defenses of the end mess.
 
Sakura is pairing fodder. She hasn't succeeded in any of her stated goals in the narrative outside of getting Sasuke's D and even that wasn't thanks to her own efforts, actions and agency but because she knew a guy who could fix Sauce and deliver him to her on a silver platter. She didn't bring back Sasuke alongside Naruto. She didn't "show them her back" and stop being a hindrance to her teammates as she was completely pointless in everything combat related, being absurdly weaker than both Sasuke and Naruto. Even her medical training ended up amounting to nothing as the last image we see of her, the thing people will ultimately remember is her dusting the shelves of her house in the middle of the day while everyone else is working. She never stopped crying and being useless, she admits it herself before the SN fight.
 
And yes, Naruto's character was ruined too (for different reasons) and yes, sadly, even if NS happend, the same way SS happend, with Sakura being a housewife and nothing else, she'd still be pairing fodder. The only difference is she wouldn't have had to go through the abject humiliation of instantly forgiving the guy who treated her lower than dog kitten for 80% of the narrative and abandoning all her other loved ones for him. Christ, and there's people defending this kitten.

I understand your point and all, but there's no need to be rude to our fellow member ok?

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I love when people kitten about Sakura but ignore Naruto's failings on all this. It honestly brightens my days so that I can laugh at them.  

[Narufan85]

I love when people b*tch about Sakura but ignore Naruto's failings on all this. It honestly brightens my days so that I can laugh at them.

 

They both fail, absolutely. I think people tend to fixate on Sakura because her failings seem so much larger within the context of how Kishi presents her in 699 & 700. 

[Nar123]

I love when people b*tch about Sakura but ignore Naruto's failings on all this. It honestly brightens my days so that I can laugh at them.  

In the end its neither Naruto's nor Sakura's fault
Its kishimoto, he was the one pulling the strings, really.

So we can criticize the character development and all

But ultimately the one at fault is kishimoto

Edited by Nar123, 24 November 2014 - 01:01 AM.