66 replies to this topic

[Greed-Sama]

Hence the henge part.... I think it's possible to hide a sharingan with henge, so he wouldn't blow his cover.

Why would SasuSaku be reborn if Rin commited suicide? don't see the link between the two.

And Kakashi's father commited suicide so it's not like he's a stranger in using it.

It was mostly a joke about the SasuSaku thing. I think it's a pretty angsty pairing.

But you can't hide its effects. I'm pretty sure that if Naruto was to henge into Sasuke he wouldn't be able to use Amaretsu or any of the other visual techniques.

And I guess your right. Though if both and Rin and the White Fang committed suicide, I would begin to think he was using that plot device a little too much.

[Torxe]

SasuSake is long since dead so it isn't anything atm .

Well I based the Rin commiting suicide thing on the lack of information about her death and mostly on the scenario Ino goes through in your story, about knowing someone that's close to you that died recently loved you. Perhaps it could have been to much for her.

And I do feel sorry for Kakashi two of his closest persons commited suicide. Talk about a depressing childhood.

[merryGOflava]

well im pretty sure rin just died in battle or something. (kishi never likes to expand on the chicks does he.)

[Greed-Sama]

SasuSake is long since dead so it isn't anything atm .

Well I based the Rin commiting suicide thing on the lack of information about her death and mostly on the scenario Ino goes through in your story, about knowing someone that's close to you that died recently loved you. Perhaps it could have been to much for her.

And I do feel sorry for Kakashi two of his closest persons commited suicide. Talk about a depressing childhood.

Ino's not committing suicide. Lol. You are the third person to ask me that.

[Torxe]

didn't ask if Ino was commiting suicide. Was talking about it being to much for Rin

[merryGOflava]

didn't ask if Ino was commiting suicide. Was talking about it being to much for Rin

look at my post!! :O kishi doesnt expand on his chicks meaning she got killed in some random not gonna be shown battle that should be enough XD

[Torxe]

Well she's dead anyway isn't she. No point in fretting over how she got killed.

back to Kabuto and his coffin. Perhaps Konan and Madara realized that Kabuto had some kind of technique to get in or out of his personal dimension?

[merryGOflava]

Well she's dead anyway isn't she. No point in fretting over how she got killed.

back to Kabuto and his coffin. Perhaps Konan and Madara realized that Kabuto had some kind of technique to get in or out of his personal dimension?

personal demension? whos demension??

[Greed-Sama]

personal demension? whos demension??

I think he's referring to Madara's personal dimension.

[merryGOflava]

I think he's referring to Madara's personal dimension.

oooh....so whats in his dimension thats so important??? ( i always thought its just madara's endless closet)

[Torxe]

Isn't it his only means of attacking aside from genjutsu, pulling someone in?
I'm pretty sure Kabuto is immune for genjutsu and wouldn't have had his neck broken. So that means Madara wouldn't have a means of hurting him.
Madara declared that he was but "a shell" of his former self to Kakashi, Yamato and Naruto didn't he.

[harry4e]

I also thought it was Madara's original body, but when Kabuto was explaining the schematics of the Edo Tensei, he mentioned how he can only summon souls that have died and not been sealed away so if Kabuto can summon Madara it would mean he really is dead and the person behind the mask is not Madara.

But then again it might be that it's always been Madara's brother who has been behind the mask all along, and he's been using his brother name because he's more famous. There must be a reason why Madara's face still hasn't been shown, pretty much everyone knows who's behind it now, and I doubt it's because he probably looks like the First Hokage.

Though I still think it is Madara who is behind the mask, and Kabuto can only summon the body not the soul.

I wonder what really happened to Rin, if she's still alive or died in combat, I wouldn't be surprised if Kishi is keeping that card close to his chest for a revelation later on, afterall how many thought that Kushina being Naruto's mother makes him more relevant to the plot than Minato being the father.

[Torxe]

Didn't Madara's brother sacrifice his eyes for the sake of his brother?

I seriously Tobi is Madara's brother instead of Madara himself.

I think Madara has resurrected someone that Madara loved.

Or perhaps the 4th Mizukage => Madara was controlling him wasn't he? There still isn't known much about that either so Kishi could very well exploit that as well.

[harry4e]

Didn't Madara's brother sacrifice his eyes for the sake of his brother?

I seriously Tobi is Madara's brother instead of Madara himself.

I think Madara has resurrected someone that Madara loved.

Or perhaps the 4th Mizukage => Madara was controlling him wasn't he? There still isn't known much about that either so Kishi could very well exploit that as well.

Kabuto already has been shown to have the 4th Mizukage, so wouldn't really have mattered if we were shown the figure same time as Madara, beside Kisame knew about Tobi controlling the 4th Mizukage, and the 5th had suspicions of that happening as well so I don't think it's much of a secret. Now the Third Mizukage is a different matter, if you see Chapter 525, you'll notice the 2nd Mizukage was summoned, and we know the 4th Mizukage was the Jinchuriki, so why wasn't the Third summoned as well as Kabuto summoned the previous Kage's for the other three.

So maybe the body summoned was the third Mizukage who was actual body of Madara, or holds the secret to who Tobi actually is.

[Strangelove]

Another theory, it could be the Uchiha clan ancestor.

[Master Sage]

I still can't help but think that the sage of six paths is in there. Maybe Madara got so scared at this because he has meet/fought the sage of six paths or something. I would however like to see Obito in the coffin.......just saying

[Torxe]

Kabuto already has been shown to have the 4th Mizukage, so wouldn't really have mattered if we were shown the figure same time as Madara, beside Kisame knew about Tobi controlling the 4th Mizukage, and the 5th had suspicions of that happening as well so I don't think it's much of a secret. Now the Third Mizukage is a different matter, if you see Chapter 525, you'll notice the 2nd Mizukage was summoned, and we know the 4th Mizukage was the Jinchuriki, so why wasn't the Third summoned as well as Kabuto summoned the previous Kage's for the other three.

So maybe the body summoned was the third Mizukage who was actual body of Madara, or holds the secret to who Tobi actually is.

Agree with the last statement, and I didn't notice the 4th Mizukage already being summoned

[K9ofChaos]

I think that the dead person in the mystery coffin could be an entirely new character that never made an appearance in the manga before.


We didn't know who Kinkaku and Ginkaku where until they made there first appearance so it's very plausible.


Perhaps it may be an opponent Madara fought alongside with Hashirama that was so strong that it mastered all of the advanced elements which was something that not even the Sage of the Six Paths could even do.


That's just my prediction though.

[Torxe]

Actually that doesn't sound so strange, he basically did the same thing with all of akatasuki (well at least the most part) you just can't make a story without adding characters along the way.

Only thing that points in the opposite direction is that Madara looked "scared/worried" about what Kabuto had. He is even already thinking of ways/times when he can dispose of Kabuto. So it still could be someone from his past

[Strangelove]

The problem i have with the Madara's brother theory is that we already seen how he looks like, so there is no reason for Kishi to keep the coffer hidden. It could be someone from a long long time ago, who might have been stronger than Madara and the 1st Hokage. Someone from beyond the founding, from the warring tribes period.

Edited by Strangelove, 10 March 2011 - 11:30 PM.