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#5461 Princess Iris

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 04:59 AM

Yes. And don't forget the Powerpuff Girls, a show about 3 super hero girls have more development than Hinata.


lol


why not cinderella & snow white :fu:

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 04:59 AM

Yes. And don't forget the Powerpuff Girls, a show about 3 super hero girls have more development than Hinata.

 

hahaha I swear!

 

I noticed the 3 girls you mentioned before names start with a K xD


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:00 AM

Ew! That's called raping now! D:

 

Kishi like raping story  :hehehe:


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:00 AM

hahaha I swear!
 
I noticed the 3 girls you mentioned before names start with a K xD

Yeah lol.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:00 AM

I can see this happen while Naruto sleeping with Hinata , he is dreaming of Sakura lol  :chuckle:
 
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About Hinata has zero screen time in manga  :pimp:

lol naw but I want Kankuro to be in this movie

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:01 AM

lol
why not cinderella & snow white :fu:

Why not Aurora? All she does is sleep and still has a better development.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:02 AM

Even if this ship sinks you're supposed to go down with it, pretend the movie or the epilogue didn't exist, and stick to well written fanfiction.

You were never a true NS shipper in the first place if you "jump ship" if the author decides to choose a terrible pairing to happen.

but i can't swim so there's no way i'm going down with the ship.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:03 AM

Why not Aurora? All she does is sleep and still have a better development.


This^
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:03 AM

Why not Aurora? All she does is sleep and still have a better development.

 

I spit some of my beer because of this! Lol!!!


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:04 AM

Sometimes I even get a feeling that some people here will also be fine with NH happening even if Naruto will say "Hinata, since I can't get Sakura, will it be fine if we get together, and if anytime in future Sakura returns my feelings I will go to her".
 
 
LOLOLOLOL  :lulz:

I don't think their are any NH/SS supporters here and if you were trying to say I am a NH supporter, you are certainly mistaken.
But yeah many NH fans actually might be fine with it, just like many NS fans here will be fine with sakura saying the dialogue to naruto.

 

Btw will you be alright with Sakura saying those words to Naruto? Since you avoided the real thought, it seems like you will be. This is the problem with many people here, one bad thing comes about NS, shove the other person down as an NH supporter and try to make counter arguements by bringing up faults in NH/SS.
 

Yes. She didn't confess to him because she was in love with him but she cared enough for him to do that. And as a female myself, I wouldn't confess to someone when I don't even have a tiny wee bit feelings for him.
I can't say I'm not a hardcore NS fan since I was one years ago but I am definitely not a hardcore Sakura fan. Sakura's not such a shallow character. Do you think that she wouldn't fall for Naruto any deeper if she actually gets into a relationship with him? She's matured and she also realised that Naruto wasn't that little boy he was years ago. She probably knows the difference between love and a childish crush. And I believe that what she had for Sasuke was just a mere crush and she doesn't even have feelings for him anymore.


I can't be certain of it, because the way sakura carries the torch of saying I love you whether she means it pr not really does make me believe she can dump naruto for sasuke if he were to return her feelings. It's just the way kishi has portrayed her love for sasuke and it won't be coming as surprising to people if she ever did that to naruto. It won't be to me at least but it will make me hate her very very much for sure.

 

And if you woldn't confess till you have feelings for the guy, then you do believe that Sakura confessing to Sasuke in 693 was because she has feelings for him. And if Sakura still treats Naruto and Sasuke as equals after all the good things Naruto has done and all the bad things Sasuke has done, I think it is pretty clear who she loves more.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:06 AM

Why not Aurora? All she does is sleep and still has a better development.


uh oh!! i forgot her

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:08 AM

uh oh!! i forgot her

guess you guys missed where I said kim possible is another example xD


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:09 AM

uh oh!! i forgot her

And Princess Peach.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:09 AM

Hi guys, watch this, Thanks to meekosfreedom :happy:  http://meekosfreedom...ers-please-read

 

DEAR NS SHIPPERS PLEASE READ.
 

I was really confused about this NH suddenly happening just as all of you, so as a script/literature student for almost a year, and learning all about foreshadowing, character development, and plot treatment, I decided I should talk to someone who knew more than me.

 

I exposed this case (about NH in the last movie) to my professor, who has been a successful screen writer for 27 years, and his answer was.

"Well, if you want to get two characters together, you have to put them through a lot of situations, and make them feel everything, both sides, so you can explain why the bond is so strong. You can’t put two characters together which development is so poor, not even if the 3, or 4 moments they have had together are really meaningful. That’s only valid if you are writing a short film cause you don’t have a lot of time, but if the story is as long as you’re telling me, then you have no excuse. You have had plenty of time to put those character through more moments, and make a successful development. If you really intent to make this two characters end up together, then you should have give them more screen time"

 

the I asked him about the other character (Sakura) what was her case and he answered.

 

" It means he really didn’t think it through, and he has wasted years of paper and ink developing this relationship for absolutely nothing. Why would you spend so much time developing a relationship if you really didn’t mean it? As a story maker you have to keep in mind that you have to make things clear for the viewers, because if you don’t, things like this happen. It’s like a new trend in marketing to leave a really open plot so the viewers can make their own conclusions, and watch just cause they want to know if they’re right, and they do this without even consulting the writer. That is called comercial script, and it’s ruining the industry, darling. But if in the end you tell me this girl who has been with the main character all the time, and it’s clearly the main female character, is not ending up with him, you’re telling me the writer of this story hasn’t been able to keep his story in line. He practically took a side character out of nowhere, and created a relationship that through the story was not even foreshadow. It’s bad writing"

 

I explain about Hinata’s love for Naruto. 

 

"And have the main character acknowledge this love?"

I told him about Pein Arc, and her confession. he asked me to see the pages of the manga, and I showed them to him.

"But then this confession was not mention again. When you write about several characters, you have to give each of them a resolution, or else it will  be unfinished. This girls confessions was sudden, and it was not mention again, so in my experience this is just to help the character get its resolution. If to the main character, or to the main plot this confession is supposed to be a game changer, or something important, then it should have been mention again. I can see the main female is there again, and as you can see, or at least what it seems is that the girl is uncomfortable. Sometimes we have to take side characters to do things like this, so main characters can realise their own truth. And it’s use really often. You see a lot of movies about someone who doesn’t realise he or she is in love with their best friend until the best friend is with someone else. So having this confession, and the only person to acknowledge that moment is the other girl, then the confession is only important to those girls. As i told you before, the side character needs its resolution about those feelings, and the main character needs to realise some things that are link to the confession".

 

I explained that since then, Naruto and Hinata have a couple of moments, and I showed them to him as well.

 

"Okey, I can see your concern. As stories develop sometimes we create characters that we wish we would have seen more of. But as much as I watched about this character, the conclusion of every interaction they have (naruto and hinata) is the girl thinking the same thing. We never see him thinking about her, or about what she has done. In the case of the other girl (Sakura) we have both of them thinking about each other constantly. In this cases the side character (hinata) will have her own resolution thanks to the impact the main character have had on her, and the other two (sakura and naruto) are more likely to have a resolution together. You can decode this just by who they keep in their thoughts. The main character has been in love with the other girl (sakura) for the whole story, and it is constantly showed. You never get a hint that he is changing his mind, so it would not be logical for him to change his mind in the blink of an eye, and he’s the main character, he gets what he wants. In this kind of stories, he works his ass off, he gets what he wants, and the other characters learn from him"

 

So I asked him what about the movie and I tell him everything that is going on and he told me.

 

"Then it means that in the main story the writer couldn’t really find a right way to give this character her resolution, so he created the perfect situation for her to have it. If this story is linked to the main one, then it will has no sense with her ending up with the main character. By the plot of this side story, I can tell that what you will mainly see is the final impact the main character has had on her, and the writer will be able to develop her story successfully, but as I see it, and talking with my own experience, her resolution will not be ending by the side of the main character. She will go through her own personal journey, she will finally give him the scarf as a sign of that chapter of her life ending because she will know new things about herself"

I thanked him, and as I was leaving his office he said to me. 

 

"Remember that stories have to make more sense than real life. So, if you want two people to end up together, you have to constantly show how that bond gets stronger. In stories nothing just happens, so I highly doubt he will love the other girl out of nowhere, not after the writer has spend 15 years invested on the other relationship, it will be kind of crushing. Can you imagine it? Spending so much time with the one you love going through the same things, and suddenly having to forget him because someone else loves you?" 

"No, sir"

"Yeah. Keep me updated, you have made me curious"

"Course I will"

So yeah, Im keeping my high hopes, or else I will be pretty disappointed. I don’t want to end up feeling disappointed.



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:10 AM

guess you guys missed where I said kim possible is another example xD

Not me. And Ron almost always gets kidnapped yet he's a better character than Hinata.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:10 AM

Guys stay on topic or else they will close this thread.

 


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:14 AM

Ok I agree ...


many characters were having higher development




but the movie plot suggests it will be highly HINATA centred


other than Hyuuga centred



and Tbh ...because of hinata, I feel that other side characters were ill treated

like Ino, Ten Ten

Temari

even though they could be more badass

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:16 AM

 

Hi guys, watch this, Thanks to meekosfreedom :happy:  http://meekosfreedom...ers-please-read

 

DEAR NS SHIPPERS PLEASE READ.
 

I was really confused about this NH suddenly happening just as all of you, so as a script/literature student for almost a year, and learning all about foreshadowing, character development, and plot treatment, I decided I should talk to someone who knew more than me.

 

I exposed this case (about NH in the last movie) to my professor, who has been a successful screen writer for 27 years, and his answer was.

"Well, if you want to get two characters together, you have to put them through a lot of situations, and make them feel everything, both sides, so you can explain why the bond is so strong. You can’t put two characters together which development is so poor, not even if the 3, or 4 moments they have had together are really meaningful. That’s only valid if you are writing a short film cause you don’t have a lot of time, but if the story is as long as you’re telling me, then you have no excuse. You have had plenty of time to put those character through more moments, and make a successful development. If you really intent to make this two characters end up together, then you should have give them more screen time"

 

the I asked him about the other character (Sakura) what was her case and he answered.

 

" It means he really didn’t think it through, and he has wasted years of paper and ink developing this relationship for absolutely nothing. Why would you spend so much time developing a relationship if you really didn’t mean it? As a story maker you have to keep in mind that you have to make things clear for the viewers, because if you don’t, things like this happen. It’s like a new trend in marketing to leave a really open plot so the viewers can make their own conclusions, and watch just cause they want to know if they’re right, and they do this without even consulting the writer. That is called comercial script, and it’s ruining the industry, darling. But if in the end you tell me this girl who has been with the main character all the time, and it’s clearly the main female character, is not ending up with him, you’re telling me the writer of this story hasn’t been able to keep his story in line. He practically took a side character out of nowhere, and created a relationship that through the story was not even foreshadow. It’s bad writing"

 

I explain about Hinata’s love for Naruto. 

 

"And have the main character acknowledge this love?"

I told him about Pein Arc, and her confession. he asked me to see the pages of the manga, and I showed them to him.

"But then this confession was not mention again. When you write about several characters, you have to give each of them a resolution, or else it will  be unfinished. This girls confessions was sudden, and it was not mention again, so in my experience this is just to help the character get its resolution. If to the main character, or to the main plot this confession is supposed to be a game changer, or something important, then it should have been mention again. I can see the main female is there again, and as you can see, or at least what it seems is that the girl is uncomfortable. Sometimes we have to take side characters to do things like this, so main characters can realise their own truth. And it’s use really often. You see a lot of movies about someone who doesn’t realise he or she is in love with their best friend until the best friend is with someone else. So having this confession, and the only person to acknowledge that moment is the other girl, then the confession is only important to those girls. As i told you before, the side character needs its resolution about those feelings, and the main character needs to realise some things that are link to the confession".

 

I explained that since then, Naruto and Hinata have a couple of moments, and I showed them to him as well.

 

"Okey, I can see your concern. As stories develop sometimes we create characters that we wish we would have seen more of. But as much as I watched about this character, the conclusion of every interaction they have (naruto and hinata) is the girl thinking the same thing. We never see him thinking about her, or about what she has done. In the case of the other girl (Sakura) we have both of them thinking about each other constantly. In this cases the side character (hinata) will have her own resolution thanks to the impact the main character have had on her, and the other two (sakura and naruto) are more likely to have a resolution together. You can decode this just by who they keep in their thoughts. The main character has been in love with the other girl (sakura) for the whole story, and it is constantly showed. You never get a hint that he is changing his mind, so it would not be logical for him to change his mind in the blink of an eye, and he’s the main character, he gets what he wants. In this kind of stories, he works his ass off, he gets what he wants, and the other characters learn from him"

 

So I asked him what about the movie and I tell him everything that is going on and he told me.

 

"Then it means that in the main story the writer couldn’t really find a right way to give this character her resolution, so he created the perfect situation for her to have it. If this story is linked to the main one, then it will has no sense with her ending up with the main character. By the plot of this side story, I can tell that what you will mainly see is the final impact the main character has had on her, and the writer will be able to develop her story successfully, but as I see it, and talking with my own experience, her resolution will not be ending by the side of the main character. She will go through her own personal journey, she will finally give him the scarf as a sign of that chapter of her life ending because she will know new things about herself"

I thanked him, and as I was leaving his office he said to me. 

 

"Remember that stories have to make more sense than real life. So, if you want two people to end up together, you have to constantly show how that bond gets stronger. In stories nothing just happens, so I highly doubt he will love the other girl out of nowhere, not after the writer has spend 15 years invested on the other relationship, it will be kind of crushing. Can you imagine it? Spending so much time with the one you love going through the same things, and suddenly having to forget him because someone else loves you?" 

"No, sir"

"Yeah. Keep me updated, you have made me curious"

"Course I will"

So yeah, Im keeping my high hopes, or else I will be pretty disappointed. I don’t want to end up feeling disappointed.

 

 I agree. 


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:16 AM

 

Hi guys, watch this, Thanks to meekosfreedom :happy:  http://meekosfreedom...ers-please-read

 

DEAR NS SHIPPERS PLEASE READ.
 

I was really confused about this NH suddenly happening just as all of you, so as a script/literature student for almost a year, and learning all about foreshadowing, character development, and plot treatment, I decided I should talk to someone who knew more than me.

 

I exposed this case (about NH in the last movie) to my professor, who has been a successful screen writer for 27 years, and his answer was.

"Well, if you want to get two characters together, you have to put them through a lot of situations, and make them feel everything, both sides, so you can explain why the bond is so strong. You can’t put two characters together which development is so poor, not even if the 3, or 4 moments they have had together are really meaningful. That’s only valid if you are writing a short film cause you don’t have a lot of time, but if the story is as long as you’re telling me, then you have no excuse. You have had plenty of time to put those character through more moments, and make a successful development. If you really intent to make this two characters end up together, then you should have give them more screen time"

 

the I asked him about the other character (Sakura) what was her case and he answered.

 

" It means he really didn’t think it through, and he has wasted years of paper and ink developing this relationship for absolutely nothing. Why would you spend so much time developing a relationship if you really didn’t mean it? As a story maker you have to keep in mind that you have to make things clear for the viewers, because if you don’t, things like this happen. It’s like a new trend in marketing to leave a really open plot so the viewers can make their own conclusions, and watch just cause they want to know if they’re right, and they do this without even consulting the writer. That is called comercial script, and it’s ruining the industry, darling. But if in the end you tell me this girl who has been with the main character all the time, and it’s clearly the main female character, is not ending up with him, you’re telling me the writer of this story hasn’t been able to keep his story in line. He practically took a side character out of nowhere, and created a relationship that through the story was not even foreshadow. It’s bad writing"

 

I explain about Hinata’s love for Naruto. 

 

"And have the main character acknowledge this love?"

I told him about Pein Arc, and her confession. he asked me to see the pages of the manga, and I showed them to him.

"But then this confession was not mention again. When you write about several characters, you have to give each of them a resolution, or else it will  be unfinished. This girls confessions was sudden, and it was not mention again, so in my experience this is just to help the character get its resolution. If to the main character, or to the main plot this confession is supposed to be a game changer, or something important, then it should have been mention again. I can see the main female is there again, and as you can see, or at least what it seems is that the girl is uncomfortable. Sometimes we have to take side characters to do things like this, so main characters can realise their own truth. And it’s use really often. You see a lot of movies about someone who doesn’t realise he or she is in love with their best friend until the best friend is with someone else. So having this confession, and the only person to acknowledge that moment is the other girl, then the confession is only important to those girls. As i told you before, the side character needs its resolution about those feelings, and the main character needs to realise some things that are link to the confession".

 

I explained that since then, Naruto and Hinata have a couple of moments, and I showed them to him as well.

 

"Okey, I can see your concern. As stories develop sometimes we create characters that we wish we would have seen more of. But as much as I watched about this character, the conclusion of every interaction they have (naruto and hinata) is the girl thinking the same thing. We never see him thinking about her, or about what she has done. In the case of the other girl (Sakura) we have both of them thinking about each other constantly. In this cases the side character (hinata) will have her own resolution thanks to the impact the main character have had on her, and the other two (sakura and naruto) are more likely to have a resolution together. You can decode this just by who they keep in their thoughts. The main character has been in love with the other girl (sakura) for the whole story, and it is constantly showed. You never get a hint that he is changing his mind, so it would not be logical for him to change his mind in the blink of an eye, and he’s the main character, he gets what he wants. In this kind of stories, he works his ass off, he gets what he wants, and the other characters learn from him"

 

So I asked him what about the movie and I tell him everything that is going on and he told me.

 

"Then it means that in the main story the writer couldn’t really find a right way to give this character her resolution, so he created the perfect situation for her to have it. If this story is linked to the main one, then it will has no sense with her ending up with the main character. By the plot of this side story, I can tell that what you will mainly see is the final impact the main character has had on her, and the writer will be able to develop her story successfully, but as I see it, and talking with my own experience, her resolution will not be ending by the side of the main character. She will go through her own personal journey, she will finally give him the scarf as a sign of that chapter of her life ending because she will know new things about herself"

I thanked him, and as I was leaving his office he said to me. 

 

"Remember that stories have to make more sense than real life. So, if you want two people to end up together, you have to constantly show how that bond gets stronger. In stories nothing just happens, so I highly doubt he will love the other girl out of nowhere, not after the writer has spend 15 years invested on the other relationship, it will be kind of crushing. Can you imagine it? Spending so much time with the one you love going through the same things, and suddenly having to forget him because someone else loves you?" 

"No, sir"

"Yeah. Keep me updated, you have made me curious"

"Course I will"

So yeah, Im keeping my high hopes, or else I will be pretty disappointed. I don’t want to end up feeling disappointed.

 

I love this xD


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:18 AM

Even if this ship sinks you're supposed to go down with it, pretend the movie or the epilogue didn't exist, and stick to well written fanfiction.

You were never a true NS shipper in the first place if you "jump ship" if the author decides to choose a terrible pairing to happen.

I would rather lose than jump ship and be a traitor. Of course im definitely not planning to lose.  :fu:


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