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#30481 Phantom_999

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Posted 18 December 2022 - 10:43 AM

Well not that I'm participating since I couldn't care less about Naruto or how popular it is now and in the future, now but how ironic it would be if Sakura comes close to the top of those polls if not outright wins it. "Sakura is not popular and does not sell" the executives said to Kishi, remember? But given how the series is practically an empty husk compared to how it was booming back in the day, I'm surprised that that they are even doing a popularity poll at this point. It's not like seeing who is popular will do the series any favors at this point because the original story is done, and the original characters fulfilled their purpose. Just let Naruto (series) die in peace I say. The only thing that matters NOW is to see what can make the CURRENT series popular and they sure are bombing hard on that because they wanted to coast off Naruto's former popularity without putting any effort into it as far as I see or am concerned about


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Posted 18 December 2022 - 04:58 PM

Well the thing is, that even if Hinata made the top spot, hopefully they have learned from last time that it is useless because all her supporters are pirates.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 18 December 2022 - 08:36 PM.


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Posted 19 December 2022 - 01:27 AM

Global poll would be a statistical nightmare since one will face challenges separating noises from the true signals. You would want to hear inputs from your customer segments that actually gave you money. Not some anonymous that contributes nothing to your business.

Either they know what theyre doing, hence these are all PR stunts.

Or they are so clueless and desperate to get validation externally from the internet, that the franchise is still going strong. News flash: it isnt anymore.

At this stage, Boruto series is a sunken cost. The new others are desperate experiments. Take the Sasuke manga for instance. Its a damned if you do, damned if you dont situation. If they sell better than Boruto, it means the whole franchise depends on old fandom. That means they cant expect significant growth from new generation readers. If they sell worse than Boruto, that means it only proof once again that the whole SS/NH pairings popularity as a hoax. Nothing but a rumour spread around that single-handedly killed this franchise.

They have no other choice, else theyd be jobless. Moving on to new series wont work, since people remember names. Look at Samurai 8. Thats whatll happen to Kishimoto, Ikemoto and others should they attempted to start fresh. Theyre primarily illustrator first, and story-teller later. Hence new series would be tough to launch under their names.

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Posted 19 December 2022 - 05:21 AM

Global poll would be a statistical nightmare since one will face challenges separating noises from the true signals. You would want to hear inputs from your customer segments that actually gave you money. Not some anonymous that contributes nothing to your business.

Either they know what they're doing, hence these are all PR stunts.

Or they are so clueless and desperate to get validation externally from the internet, that the franchise is still going strong. News flash: it isn't anymore.

At this stage, Boruto series is a sunken cost. The new others are desperate experiments. Take the Sasuke manga for instance. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If they sell better than Boruto, it means the whole franchise depends on old fandom. That means they cant expect significant growth from new generation readers. If they sell worse than Boruto, that means it only proof once again that the whole SS/NH pairings popularity as a hoax. Nothing but a rumour spread around that single-handedly killed this franchise.

They have no other choice, else they'd be jobless. Moving on to new series wont work, since people remember names. Look at Samurai 8. That's what'll happen to Kishimoto, Ikemoto and others should they attempted to start fresh. They're primarily illustrator first, and story-teller later. Hence new series would be tough to launch under their names.

I took the poll when I saw Derock's post. It only asks for your age and gender. I assume my email was checked, so one can't just spam vote, but I don't feel like checking.

 

I say its both. Its a PR stunt since they hope a large number of people will vote. But, it is also to convince themselves and more importantly the executives that Naruto is still popular. So, they shouldn't consider cancelling any current projects and instead support more. I still think that the recent stuff is because series like MHA are ending. Which is making the executives look at Naruto-Boruto and ponder whether to end it or support it till the new IPs come out.

 

Boruto has been that way for a couple years now. Kishimoto's return was its last chance to break out of it, but it wasn't capitalized on. The Sasuke manga can easily do better than current Boruto, since it has sunken so low in sales, but it really needs to do at least end of Naruto level of sales for it to be a success for the franchise. As manga and anime have gotten a major boost in sales since Naruto ended because of streaming. If it can't, well there is a reason its getting adapted as filler in the Boruto anime instead of its own spin off.

 

WSJ officially has a three strikes rule. Samurai 8 was the first strike. Granted it was a big strike due to both them putting a lot of promotions behind it, and Kishimoto going on about how it is the manga he has been wanting to do as well the one he ended Naruto for. The big problem for Kishi right now, is that his artwork style of his hit manga is easy to copy. The two manga are getting a lot of praise because they look like Naruto instead of the mess Ikemoto does. So, he is unneeded unless he can write a decent story.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 19 December 2022 - 05:24 AM.


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Posted 19 December 2022 - 06:52 AM

I'm told that kishimoto is actually not writing boruto and that it was a misstranslation that it is actually jump using his original draft, though ask chattevmore about that stuff

Anyway here is the poll if anyone is interested https://narutop99.na...official.com/en

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Posted 19 December 2022 - 10:04 AM

Well, I'm heading to bed but this appeared on my recommend:

 



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Posted 19 December 2022 - 04:06 PM

Sakura gonna win and kishi gonna make another adventure with ss 😵 but even if that happens i want kishi to know that she isn't as unpopular as he claimed

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Posted 19 December 2022 - 06:17 PM

Well, I'm heading to bed but this appeared on my recommend:

 

Freakin' Animetubers, man. :down:


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Posted 19 December 2022 - 07:26 PM

Well, I just voted for Sakura too.



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Posted 19 December 2022 - 10:41 PM

A popularity poll after 8 years  the original story ended and the entire fandom moved to to another things and died is simply stupid. Only Shippers  still cares about OG Naruto.

Win this popularity poll will be too much easy to Sakura or Sasuke. They currently have a manga and will gain a special anime adaptation of this manga. It's too much focus on them. Realizing this  poll during this period give unfair advantage to them

I have seen in twiiter the fanbases really working in votes in that order: Sasuke, Sakura, Hinata, Naruto  and far behind Kakashi, Itachi and others. Certain Sasuke,Naruto,Sakura and Hinata will be in TOP 5.
Anyway i will vote for Sakura everyday.


Edited by Therece, 19 December 2022 - 10:45 PM.


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Posted 20 December 2022 - 01:31 AM

A popularity poll after 8 years the original story ended and the entire fandom moved to to another things and died is simply stupid. Only Shippers  still cares about OG Naruto.

Win this popularity poll will be too much easy to Sakura or Sasuke. They currently have a manga and will gain a special anime adaptation of this manga. It's too much focus on them. Realizing this  poll during this period give unfair advantage to them

I have seen in twiiter the fanbases really working in votes in that order: Sasuke, Sakura, Hinata, Naruto  and far behind Kakashi, Itachi and others. Certain Sasuke, Naruto, Sakura and Hinata will be in TOP 5.
Anyway i will vote for Sakura everyday.

I'm assuming you haven't kept up with any news until recently; when the Sasuke manga peaked your interest. They have these polls, I think, every year. What is making people take notice of this poll, is that coming during the two side manga that are doing better than the main manga.

 

A lot of the light novels have been adapted into the anime. The Mirai has already for example, also, the Sakura, Itachi, and the nH wedding light novel as well off the top of my head. It is important that they announced it while the manga is going, but it isn't special.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 20 December 2022 - 01:32 AM.


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Posted 20 December 2022 - 01:58 AM

I'm assuming you haven't kept up with any news until recently; when the Sasuke manga peaked your interest. They have these polls, I think, every year. What is making people take notice of this poll, is that coming during the two side manga that are doing better than the main manga.

 

A lot of the light novels have been adapted into the anime. The Mirai has already for example, also, the Sakura, Itachi, and the nH wedding light novel as well off the top of my head. It is important that they announced it while the manga is going, but it isn't special.

Wrong. I'm very inside the news.

The last Naruto official Poll that i Remember was between 2012/2013.
Nobody cares about the Boruto polls since Boruto is a almost dead franchise who only survives thanks to Naruto's Hype. This specific poll  is almost a war between the Fanbases and Pairings to gain the short manga made by Kishimoto. Hinata fandom are  crazy to win this against Sakura in Twiiter.

A manga focused on Sasuke, Sakura, Hinata, Naruto or any other important/Controversial character especially centered in the Pairing aspects   gains much more atention than a random Mirai Novel. I'm certain this manga/anime will have some impact in this poll especially with others fandoms being dead...

 

Let's be sincere nobody cares about Mirai or secondary characters.
I doesn't know Mirai  Numbers in japan but certain is much lower than the Sasuke one.

These novels were adapted to anime 6/7 years ago when Naruto franchise was still alive. Sakura novel aren't addapted.
Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura/SS Fandom was hungry for new content who aren't boruto related and this manga give this to them.


Edited by Therece, 20 December 2022 - 03:24 AM.


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Posted 20 December 2022 - 07:11 AM

Wrong. I'm very inside the news.

The last Naruto official Poll that i Remember was between 2012/2013.
Nobody cares about the Boruto polls since Boruto is a almost dead franchise who only survives thanks to Naruto's Hype. This specific poll  is almost a war between the Fanbases and Pairings to gain the short manga made by Kishimoto. Hinata fandom are crazy to win this against Sakura in Twiiter.

A manga focused on Sasuke, Sakura, Hinata, Naruto or any other important/Controversial character especially centered in the Pairing aspects   gains much more atention than a random Mirai Novel. I'm certain this manga/anime will have some impact in this poll especially with others fandoms being dead...

 

Let's be sincere nobody cares about Mirai or secondary characters.
I don't know Mirai  Numbers in japan but certain is much lower than the Sasuke one.

These novels were adapted to anime 6/7 years ago when Naruto franchise was still alive. Sakura novel aren't adapted.
Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura/SS Fandom was hungry for new content who aren't boruto related and this manga give this to them.

Fair enough, but I remember a poll last year and the one before that. And, I do believe that there were polls after Naruto ended in 2014/15. Granted, they might just be Boruto polls. I don't feel like checking. Granted, if that's the case, I see it as one of two things 1) there is likely an anniversary going on and they want to focus on that...is the anime 20 now? Or, two they completely lost faith in Boruto and want to see Naruto characters' popularity.

 

An online poll is not likely, if Hinata should win, lead to her getting a spin off manga. As she already got one call Boruto, as well as a movie called The Last Naruto Movie, and look how those turned out. The poll is to show off how popular Naruto-Boruto still is and to convince executives not to end it. It really doesn't effect us. If SS and nH are at each other throats again, let them at it I say.

 

Mirai is important because, why did they decide to adapt it along side the Sasuke manga? If the pairing battle is so important and who is the better girl Sakura or Hinata? Why did they not do a Hinata story instead? So, they could directly clash in the charts? I have said on this site since we have heard of these two getting a manga adaptation, that they are both checks. The Sasuke manga is to see if SS -which has been financially supporting Boruto for years- can be profitable on its own.. Mirai is to see, if its just nH's Boruto that's the problem, and Naruto can still be profitable, if its just separated from Boruto. If a random character, as you said, can do better than Boruto, then what about the rest of the cast? Its the difference between getting Naruto again and just getting smutty dreamy bad boy 'I' (or more accurately Naruto did all the workbarely tamed stories with SS.

 

I'm pretty sure the Sakura novel was adapted.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 20 December 2022 - 07:26 AM.


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Posted 20 December 2022 - 02:08 PM

Hinata only gained The Last because Pierrot nedeed a movie to Explain the Protagonist pairing since NH is pretty much non existent in the original manga. After the movie flop Hinata and NH importance are over.

Hinata is popular maybe only in US and Pierrot studios.
Hinata never was so popular in Japan. Both Sakura pairings (NS e SS) are so much more famous than NH.
Sakura have a lot more products and merchandise.  Also Sasuke is always a Japan favorite and since Sakura is now  bound to be related to him. Isn't a surprise the focus on them now.

Sakura novel never was adapted to Anime.

I still doesn't know why they choose Mirai Novel, this novel focus in a impopular character (Kakashi is in story but i guess he isn't enough) and already  has a anime adaption...
Sakura novel or any other is a more inteligent choose.

 


Edited by Therece, 20 December 2022 - 05:37 PM.


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Posted 20 December 2022 - 04:38 PM

The sasuke novel was adapted not the sakura one.

Though I'd rather not have sakura stuff adapted if they are just going to be ss grabarge

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 05:09 PM

Naruto should win and masashi should write a story where naruto wakes up from the genjutsu where he married hinata 🤣

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 05:15 PM

The sasuke novel was adapted not the sakura one.

Though I'd rather not have sakura stuff adapted if they are just going to be ss grabarge

If Sakura wins this poll i doubt the short manga will be again about SS. This is Adult/Boruto era stuff.

More probably  about Shippuden, Blank Period or even childhood Sakura...
The same for Sasuke or other characters who get TOP1


Edited by Therece, 20 December 2022 - 05:36 PM.


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Posted 20 December 2022 - 09:40 PM

You know, I just finished rewatching the walking dead, and I do have to laugh a little as I know for a fact Naruto couldn't, Talk no jutsu, anyone, in that show, something I wish he had failed at when in the manga.



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Posted 21 December 2022 - 07:11 AM

https://twitter.com/...CJf9OXItdQ&s=19 apprantly this is the results so far

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Posted 21 December 2022 - 08:57 AM

https://twitter.com/...CJf9OXItdQ&s=19 apparently this is the results so far

 

1. Minato

2. Shisui

3. Itachi

4. Kaguya

5. White Fang...? Sakumo Hatake

6. Sasuke

7. Sakura

8. Hinata

9. Naruto

10. Fugaku

Feels like a joke. Oh. "For the people wondering why popular characters like Naruto Itachi kakashi sasuke etc are so low is because the winner of the poll gets their own manga which is why characters like white fang, shisui, Minato etc are winning so we can get more about them."

 

Huh, if that is the case. I was wrong. Looks like if Hinata did win, she would get a manga.







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