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I'm currently working on adding the banners one by one, please do let me know if there are any problems (give me a few minutes to adjust the code first)!

 

Still waiting for Fox-And-Flower and sandateous to get back to me with their banners, so it might take a little time for them to be added.

 

The winner groups will be handed out later today, sorry for the delay!  It's been a really busy week. 

 

UPDATE: All banners are uploaded for now, except for the ones from the above artists I mentioned.  Those will be uploaded as soon as I hear from them. 

There is now a new NaruSaku Week on Tumblr! 

 

 

Hopefully, there will be plenty of NaruSaku posted this week, and that fans will be inspired to write, draw, and post more. 

1. An open ending.

2. NaruHina and/or SasuSaku happening without proper development.

3. Naruto dying and Sasuke becoming Hokage.

 

There's nothing wrong with nice endings, after all FMA's ending was perfect. 

 

This would pretty much be my ideal ending:

Another entry, this time by newcomer sandateous! 

I am disappointed to see people bashing in this thread, and I have sent out PMs to those responsible.

 

If this occurs again, temporary (or even permanent) topic bans will be handed out to those that break the rules.  This is a debate thread, not a place to bash fandoms and characters.

 

Thank you for posting about the rules, Slextrem.    It is IMPORTANT that everyone keeps to these simple rules, as they help keep H&E a nice place.  Nobody wants H&E to turn into a place full of bashing and flamewars, right?

 

Thank you for reading, and I hope that everyone will help keep this thread clean.

Thank you, guys. 

 

Bashing/gloating is something that really needs to be tackled, and the Topic Ban does indeed give us the possibility of removing rulebreakers from the topic, instead of having to close the whole thing.  But speed is still very important, as we (moderators AND members) all need to stop the bashing before it goes out of control and consumes an entire topic.

 

There are several people here who like other pairings as well as NaruSaku, so you can imagine how uncomfortable they would feel if others mocked the pairings they like.

 

I know that many people bash NaruSaku, but that doesn't mean we have to do the same thing to their fandoms.

 

Like megi said, it is always best to enjoy without mockery.   

Guys, be careful with your posts.  I have had to hide 2 posts and edit one because they were seen as gloating/bashing.  Those will be reviewed by the mod team.  Any more will be warned.
 
Think before you post, and read our decision on the bashing issue!  Remember, anyone who persists will be facing a Topic Ban!
 

I think you are overthinking this, simply put she is lying and Sai knows this by her false smile.

 
Not exactly, I think Saku-chan sums it up best:
 

I think Sai's interpretation of Sakura's response was a little odd. I don't know though. I did not look at the raws, so it could be a translation thing. I've reread several times and I think that he meant that her words were what she sincerely WANTS to feel, but she doesn't feel this way and that's what's making her sad. To extrapolate a little, I think that she feels that she cannot forgive Sasuke like Naruto apparently can. She may also feel as if she has put a burden on Naruto with the promise of a lifetime for no reason. Anyway, I love that Kishi is no longer sidelining her feelings.

Sakura truly wants to believe that everything will be OK, and she wants to believe her own words, but she can't shake that uneasy feeling that is growing within herself. Things are not adding up, and she knows it.

As much as Sakura would like to go back to the old days when Team 7 was whole, deep down she knows that everyone has changed - herself most of all. Orochimaru said it out loud; people change.

 

We may well see Sakura and Naruto fighting against Sasuke in the near future.  Both Naruto and Sasuke want to save the villages, but Naruto wants to heal wounds, while Sasuke wants to destroy everything and rebuild it all.

 

 

Sakura's smile was the peak for me.
And it seems like Tsunade didn't expected Sakura to be able to summon Katsuyu...

 
Personally, I can't wait for Tsunade to witness Sakura's growth on the battlefield. 

 

 

While it was unsettling for Oro to be comedy material, we do at least get to see that he hasn't completely changed.  Before, he always wanted to be the wind that would drive conflict and change the world.  Now, he wants to sit back and let Sasuke be that wind.  He believes that Sasuke will change the world, and he wants to watch what happens.

 

Of course, we know that Naruto Uzumaki will be the one who really changes the world for the better. 

As some of you will know, in recent times we have had problems with some members making insulting comments about characters, pairings, "rival" shipping fandoms, and individual fans.  Because of the recent events in the Naruto manga, emotions and tensions have been running high between all the shipping fandoms.

 

Everyone feels like they have to "protect" the pairing(s) they love, and this has led to increased amounts of bashing on all Naruto-related websites.  Even here, on Heaven & Earth.

 

So, the other Admins, Mods, and I would like to make our stance very clear on this issue:

 

 

What we are doing:

 

We will not ban talk about other pairings and their fandoms.  However, anyone who decides to bash any characters, pairings, fandoms or fans will face very strict action from the Admins and Mods - a warning and a high chance of being banned from the topic that the bashing comment was posted in.

 

We have a new tool that allows us to ban individual members from a topic, if we feel that they are trolling and/or bashing.  The Topic Ban is in addition to the normal disciplinary process, and it is entirely up to the mods if/when it will be used, and whether it is temporary or permanent.

 

For example, if someone decided to make repeated bashing comments in a chapter discussion thread, we would warn them AND ban them from that chapter thread.  That would serve as a warning not to do it again in the next chapter thread.

 

Persistent bashing would still lead to forum bans, as per the normal disciplinary process.

 

 

Why we have decided this:

 

Nobody likes having their favourite pairings/characters/series insulted and mocked.  So, why should we do it to others?  Bashing is just a vicious circle without end, and it does not make anyone look good.  Without exception, bashing just lowers the tone, and it makes our website look bad to others.

 

There are better ways to spend your time as well.  Instead of getting into arguments, just enjoy your favourite characters/pairings/series!  Play some games, read some stories, enjoy fanart, have interesting discussions.

 

 

How to avoid bashing:

 

Think before you post.  If you were a fan of the very thing you want to bash, how would you feel about it?  You don't like having your favourite things bashed, so why should you bash their favourite things?  We're all just fans and we simply chose our fandoms just because we enjoy them.

 

There are many ways to comment and have productive debates about things without bashing.  For example:

 

"This theory doesn't make sense to me, because... (manga evidence & viewpoint)" - that's fine.

 

"lol, they're just delusional." - that's not fine, and will lead to a warning.

 

If you see anything that is seen as bashing, please help steer the conversation away from that, and/or send a report to the mods!

 

Thank you for reading. 

Reggie on used games: 

 

 

Miyamoto on used games:

 

 

 

Nintendo dropping knowledge, make  your games worth keeping and they won't get traded in.                                                                           

 

Yeah, I've always liked that approach. 

 

Quite often, you get these expensive blockbuster titles that only take 10 hours or less to finish in single-player, and they offer no incentive to replay them once you're done with the story.  So it's only natural that people will just sell off those games for a new one.  Why should we be punished for wanting to resell something we bought with our own money?

Welcome to H&E, Sav!     I hope you enjoy your stay!

 

Your story is actually quite similar to my own.     Of course, I had a lot less to catch up on. 

 

Like you, I discovered Naruto while I was looking for something new to watch.  At the time, it was still in Part 1 and the manga was up to the Sasuke Retrieval Arc.  I was so glued that I watched the anime in just a few days and read the manga afterwards, right up to the latest chapter on that day.

 

Because I had crammed so much Naruto into my head, I let it all settle down and the pieces slid into place by themselves.  Like you, I could see the depth of the bond between Naruto and Sakura, the way they developed and changed over time, and how they would be fantastic for each other.  So, in my excitement, I went looking for a Naruto forum to shout about this awesome series and NaruSaku with like-minded fans.  I found the old NarutoTalk and signed up there.

 

There was NaruHina and SasuSaku EVERYWHERE.  I really did begin to wonder if I had somehow missed something... then I discovered Hokuten's NaruSaku fanclub thread.  The atmosphere in there was awesome, and there was a lot of great banter between the regulars.

 

It was like an oasis, and that got me started on my journey as a NaruSaku fan.   

No problem, guys, have fun.

Welcome to the new H&E!

 

This is still very much a work in progress, but I reopened it so you guys could post again.  Very soon, I hope to be able to share more info with you, and you can all help shape H&E's future. ^_^

 

Be sure to check out our Facebook and Twitter and follow those, we will be updating them with regular news and content!

 

 

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Since the debate thread has reached over 1000 pages, it's time to start a new one!

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