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Posted 19 October 2015 - 05:00 PM

What kind of writer listens to his fans ideas rather than his own? 

A bad writer or one with a very weak vision for his story. 


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 06:40 PM

 

This made me laugh, but its not the response what I hoping for. I'm want to know if they are going talk kitten about Mrs.Kishi and call her stupid names for being a NS fan just like they do to us?

I'm glad i made people laugh but it wasn't the point of that post.  It was to point out how predictable the nH and ss fanbase are. We already know what kind of people they are. They are spoiled entitled kids who are probably adults by now who don't care about the story. They at the beginning of the anime immediately hated sakura and didn't want her to get together with Naruto, and wanted Hinata to get together with Naruto and for Sakura to get together with Sasuke. They have several reasons why they wanted that to happen but it basically boils down to they use Naruto Sakura and Hinata as insert character for their fantasies.

 

Hinata is they shy girl who is actually better and hotter(they think) then everyone around but doesn't realize it and who just want the boy she been in love with for so long.

 

Naruto is the loser who is actually better then everyone else and is more attractive then anyone else who should drop the friend zoning kitten (sakura) and get together with the sexy easy to get girl (hinata) who would do what ever he wants and would be completely and utterly obedient and never defy him.

 

Sakura is the girl that will change the dark brooding guys ways and make him fall in love with her through great sex.

 

And each one of these character should get what they want because they deserve it. Because the fans of nH and ss deserve it and anything else they want. Which is the real reason why they won't listen to anything that contradicts what they want. Those character to nH and SS are just insert character at the end of the day what it really boils down to is that they the fans deserve anything they want. The shy low self esteem girls they want the hot guy that they had a crush on to ignore all the other girls and fall in love with only them and care about only them and live a fairy tale life. The girls that want the hot dangerous brooding bad boys want the guy to fall in love with her and change for her and then have great sex with her. The beta males want to get back at all the girls that they believe friend-zoned them and get the easy sexy girl that would be utterly obedient to them. That is what they really want and Naruto is just a story (which they honestly don't care about) where the project their desires onto. So when we question the validity of nH and ss. What we are really doing is questioning what they want out of life and more specifically their love lives.

 

So they will pick and choose whatever kishimoto says and decided what he really said since once again it isn't about the story it about their own fantasies.

 

Also do you think many of them have even read any of kishi interviews? Most just believe because the ending is nH and ss that clearly he think the same thing they do. So reading his interviews would be pointless in their minds. The few that do are people on youtube and tumbler that want views, but don't have anything else that get people attention other than Naruto. So they dig up kishi interviews read them deny anything they don't agree with. Pretend the contradictions don't exist or it a miss translation or a massive NS conspiracy going on and they must reveal the truth to the fans that kishi is a true nH and ss supporter. Then they pick and choose what they want their viewers to hear and that what goes on their post and or videos. And then those fans just accept wha ever those people say and parrot their lines to anyone that disagree with them.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 21 October 2015 - 03:50 AM.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 06:45 PM

Is this guy idiot or smart i don't know, this interview is being published and in public, its in newspaper, if he really trying to fool his own wife into thinking that she is modeled after hinata why did he said it in public? he doesn't realize what will happen if his wife accidently read the newspaper. I for one think hes lying, he purposely saying this to to mock NH fans. But if its true then he worse father/husband attempting to fool his own wife/family for money,

 

So it doesn't make sense to me, it's still vague who side hes on, the pro ending or anti ending. One thing for sure hes on the side of whoever bring the most money.

I really hope that the case cause no one can be that stupid. he spent years saying that he based kushina of his wife and kushina is similar to sakura which was stated in the manga, but after it ended she suddenly the base for hinata? He said his wife is a strong willed woman which i assume she called him out on his bs immediately but has accepted (but doesn't like) the ending for money to support the kids. Also if his wife was based on hinata when the interviewer said like Sakura then he shouldn't have went "oh your right my wife must have figure that out." Instead it should have been he also thought hinata was a strong woman like his wife. But instead when they interview said basically sakura is like his wife he went "yep" and ignore hinata.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 19 October 2015 - 09:07 PM.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:23 PM

I could have laughed at this but this kinda makes me think it's true

Remember, everything after that actually was what most fans wanted
Examples:
1. The GREAT (but useless & fruitless) Naruto vs. Sasuke
2. Byakugan being stronger than even Rinnegan cuz u know, it's underrated :down:
3. Naruto NEVER EVER, I MEAN NEVER EVER had true feelings for Sakura ...he was a shallow dumbASS just like Sakura, Ino or any hoe of Naruto
4. Badass Hinata with a Super-Retcon kitten!
5. Naruto with some new power up that doesn't make sense at all
6. Neji, that idiot must DIE! DIE! DIE!!

 

Disagree with the Neji dying part. no one wanted him to die :(


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:58 PM

 

Disagree with the Neji dying part. no one wanted him to die :(

Their were some hinata fans that could never forgive neji for touching/hurting their goddess. Also Neji Hinata pairing was more popular than nH in Japan, and people would have preferred that pairing over what they got.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 19 October 2015 - 10:58 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 01:01 AM

Their were some hinata fans that could never forgive neji for touching/hurting their goddess. Also Neji Hinata pairing was more popular than nH in Japan, and people would have preferred that pairing over what they got.

well I have now found new ways to hate Hinata fans, don't worry I've created two people that kitten Hinata up and cause her to go blind in her right eye.

 

lol what more is the husband kills Naruto Hinata Sasuke and Sakura.



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 01:04 AM

I'm over the Naruto ending for the most part, but I still can't like any of the NH and SS kids. NH/SS family fanart, promotional works, fanfics or anything related to them is the worst repellant I can think of. I still cringe. All I see when I look at Himewari or Bolt or Sarada are the kids that should never have been born.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 01:25 AM

I'm over the Naruto ending for the most part, but I still can't like any of the NH and SS kids. NH/SS family fanart, promotional works, fanfics or anything related to them is the worst repellant I can think of. I still cringe. All I see when I look at Himewari or Bolt or Sarada are the kids that should never have been born.

well we can still make NaruSaku stories its what I do after all we stop that then we will let NS die



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:06 AM

Oh dear, Kishimoto just won't stop talking, will he?

 

The funny thing is, I think I've finally let go of my anger about the whole thing.  I mean, he's just not worth being angry about, and he has basically committed career suicide.  He broke the trust of his fans, he cannot stop making up excuses, and he has shown no regret or remorse whatsoever.

 

The only people still taking him seriously are those who never cared about the Naruto story and characters in the first place.



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:34 AM

Where was it stated in the interview that Kishi's wife was upset? 



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:55 AM

Where was it stated in the interview that Kishi's wife was upset? 

 

http://www.animenews...omic-con/.94186

 

It's funny that WSJ video has omitted the wife being upset that NS never happened  :twitch:


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 12:11 PM

I'm glad i made people laugh but it wasn't the point of that post.  It was to point out how predictable the nH and ss fanbase are. We already know what kind of people they are. They are spoiled entitled kids who are probably adults by now who don't care about the story. They at the beginning of the anime immediately hated sakura and didn't want her to get together with Naruto, and wanted Hinata to get together with Naruto and for Sakura to get together with Sasuke. They have several reasons why they wanted that to happen but it basically boils down to they use Naruto Sakura and Hinata as insert character for their fantasies.

 

Hinata is they shy girl who is actually better and hotter(they think) then everyone around but doesn't realize it and who just want the boy she been in love with for so long.

 

Naruto is the loser who is actually better then everyone else and is more attractive then anyone else who should drop the friend zoning kitten (sakura) and get together with the sexy easy to get girl (hinata) who would do what ever he wants and would be completely and utterly obedient and never defy him.

 

Sakura is the girl that will change the dark brooding guys ways and make him fall in love with her through great sex.

 

And each one of these character should get what they want because they deserve it. Because the fans of nH and ss deserve it and anything else they want. Which is the real reason why they won't listen to anything that contradicts what they want. Those character to nH and SS are just insert character at the end of the day what it really boils down to is that they the fans deserve anything they want. The shy low self esteem girls they want the hot guy that they had a crush on to ignore all the other girls and fall in love with only them and care about only them and live a fairy tale life. The girls that want the hot dangerous brooding bad boys want the guy to fall in love with her and change for her and then have great sex with her. The beta males want to get back at all the girls that they believe friend-zoned them and get the easy sexy girl that would be utterly obedient to them. That is what they really want and Naruto is just a story (which they honestly don't care about) where the project their desires onto. So when we question the validity of nH and ss. What we are really do is questioning what they want out of life and more specifically their love lives.

 

So they will pick and choose whatever kishimoto says and decided what he really said since once again it isn't about the story it about their own fantasies.

 

Also do you think many of them have even read any of kishi interviews most just believe because the ending is nH and ss that clearly he think the same thing they do so reading his interview would be pointless. The few that do are people on youtube and tumbler that want views but don't have anything else that get people attention other than Naruto so they dig up kishi interviews read them deny anything they don't agree with. Pretend the contradictions don't exist or it a miss translation or a massive NS conspiracy going on and they must reveal the truth to the fans that kishi is a true nH and ss supporter. Then they pick and choose what they want their viewers to hear and that what goes on their post and or videos.

 

 

You nailed perfectly most of the NH/SS fandom thought process


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 12:34 PM

I'm glad i made people laugh but it wasn't the point of that post.  It was to point out how predictable the nH and ss fanbase are. We already know what kind of people they are. They are spoiled entitled kids who are probably adults by now who don't care about the story. They at the beginning of the anime immediately hated sakura and didn't want her to get together with Naruto, and wanted Hinata to get together with Naruto and for Sakura to get together with Sasuke. They have several reasons why they wanted that to happen but it basically boils down to they use Naruto Sakura and Hinata as insert character for their fantasies.

 

Hinata is they shy girl who is actually better and hotter(they think) then everyone around but doesn't realize it and who just want the boy she been in love with for so long.

 

Naruto is the loser who is actually better then everyone else and is more attractive then anyone else who should drop the friend zoning kitten (sakura) and get together with the sexy easy to get girl (hinata) who would do what ever he wants and would be completely and utterly obedient and never defy him.

 

Sakura is the girl that will change the dark brooding guys ways and make him fall in love with her through great sex.

 

And each one of these character should get what they want because they deserve it. Because the fans of nH and ss deserve it and anything else they want. Which is the real reason why they won't listen to anything that contradicts what they want. Those character to nH and SS are just insert character at the end of the day what it really boils down to is that they the fans deserve anything they want. The shy low self esteem girls they want the hot guy that they had a crush on to ignore all the other girls and fall in love with only them and care about only them and live a fairy tale life. The girls that want the hot dangerous brooding bad boys want the guy to fall in love with her and change for her and then have great sex with her. The beta males want to get back at all the girls that they believe friend-zoned them and get the easy sexy girl that would be utterly obedient to them. That is what they really want and Naruto is just a story (which they honestly don't care about) where the project their desires onto. So when we question the validity of nH and ss. What we are really do is questioning what they want out of life and more specifically their love lives.

 

So they will pick and choose whatever kishimoto says and decided what he really said since once again it isn't about the story it about their own fantasies.

 

Also do you think many of them have even read any of kishi interviews most just believe because the ending is nH and ss that clearly he think the same thing they do so reading his interview would be pointless. The few that do are people on youtube and tumbler that want views but don't have anything else that get people attention other than Naruto so they dig up kishi interviews read them deny anything they don't agree with. Pretend the contradictions don't exist or it a miss translation or a massive NS conspiracy going on and they must reveal the truth to the fans that kishi is a true nH and ss supporter. Then they pick and choose what they want their viewers to hear and that what goes on their post and or videos.

 

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 02:35 PM

Who said the bold parts?

 

Former world said "F that b**** (Kishi's wife for shipping narusaku)

 

The rest are pretty much my thoughts that NH put their shipping above everything the series was about including the author's own wife which makes them selfish aholes.



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 03:04 PM

Childish immature people these days...Not here of course.
 
I should considering finding a new place to discuss because sadly, all non-Naruto topics are isolated. I mean I will stay here but I should spread.

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:28 PM

 

Former world said "F that b**** (Kishi's wife for shipping narusaku)

 

The rest are pretty much my thoughts that NH put their shipping above everything the series was about including the author's own wife which makes them selfish aholes.

 

WHAT! Give me the the link to that absurd video. 


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:31 PM

Wow...I wonder if kishi will see that video? Hey people who have friends in Japan could you asked them to spread that news around?



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:03 PM

 

http://www.animenews...omic-con/.94186

 

It's funny that WSJ video has omitted the wife being upset that NS never happened  :twitch:

 

I don't see why he or anyone else feels the need to justify it. If it was truly what he intended from the beginning then there shouldn't be so much attention committed to the question. Kishi should simply move onto his next project and hope that any future pairings he tries to create are better supported in that series. 



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:16 PM

 

I don't see why he or anyone else feels the need to justify it. If it was truly what he intended from the beginning then there shouldn't be so much attention committed to the question. Kishi should simply move onto his next project and hope that any future pairings he tries to create are better supported in that series. 

 

If you know you are guilty, it won't wash away that quickly. He's forcing to convince himself with every contradicting interview that it was he originally wanted. However, the guilt is eating at him each time he puts his foot in his mouth. Now he intentionally draw unaware attention to his wife by revealing to the world that she was pissoff about the ending. He's deluded real bad.  It's going to take years for him to forget what he done. 


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:37 PM

And here I thought romance wasn't a strong suit or concern of Kishi's. He should be trying to put the past behind him and move on to his sci-fi seinen rather than dwell on things which have already been finalised. Do you think anyone is going to be concerned over what Kishi's wife thinks? To them, she's just one unimportant background person pitching a fit because the shallow unlikable ex-heroine that's based off her didn't get with the scumbag. If he's becoming so upset over her protestations then maybe they should look into a separation or at least a mutual agreement to forget about the issue since it's done and done. If I were in his position, I would be plunging myself into the new manga while asking her to look towards the future instead of the past. 






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