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[Konohakitten]

Lemons usually don't bother me but I guess that's because I've written some in my fanfic, but there was one that I read once that was so bad I think it was taken down from FF.Net  Now if I remember correctly it was a fic where Sakura had Naruto blind folded and bound. It was his birthday and she had gotten all the of the rookies to have their way with him, all of them, men included. It was so bad I remember that even I had to take a break from reading it. It was disturbing to say the least. What got a lot of people upset is that the description to the fic was misleading so there were a lot of ppl (me included) that read it not knowing how different the actual story was. The reviews for it were nothing but upset NaruSaku fans, it's one story I'll never forget.

Edited by Konohakitten, 23 March 2014 - 08:38 PM.

[Luna]

OMG didn't expect anyone at all to reply to this thread. LMAO. I agree I'm normally a expert at avoiding them or ignoring them completely. LMAO. One the scarred me was a Oro/Sakura fic that someone recommended. It was horrid,, Oro raped her with snakes and inject poison in her... I had to hit the back button quickly.

[TheFirstEvil100]

I have to say there are some very bad fics its just good that with so many bad ones there are good ones that people do.

[sushi.]

How do people find these mad fics..OrochimaruxSakura? The synopsis alone would scare me away.

[Konohakitten]

How do people find these mad fics..OrochimaruxSakura? The synopsis alone would scare me away.

 

Well I can't speak for everyone else but I found that disturbing fic because I was tricked XD It was under NaruSaku and the description was misleading.

[Lid]

Oro raped her with snakes and inject poison in her... I had to hit the back button quickly.

 

 

That actually brings up one of the most disturbing trends in fanfics. It's really awful how many "writers" use rape in fanfiction.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

 

 

That actually brings up one of the most disturbing trends in fanfics. It's really awful how many "writers" use rape in fanfiction.

 

God, I know. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that. It's absolutely horrid.

[Helena]

I think some people are sick and try to infect us with their sickness. Or maybe it's just their intimate fantasies, lol. Disgusting really. Also I can't understand what's with incest  there's a lot of "uzumakicest" and "uchihacest" on ff.net...

 

I mean...Come on ppl!

[Kamina-Yoshi]

I think some people are sick and try to infect us with their sickness. Or maybe it's just their intimate fantasies, lol. Disgusting really. Also I can't understand what's with incest  there's a lot of "uzumakicest" and "uchihacest" on ff.net...

 

I mean...Come on ppl!

 

For some people it's a turn-on. For others, it's a curiosity. Sometimes the writer writes a tad bit better (more focus on eroticism for the porn rather than simply illustrating sex as ham-fisted as hammering a wall with a sledgehammer), or the artist of the doujinshi draws better. It's pretty weird, but somehow you notice that in the "incest"/taboo stories the artist actually draws better than that of a "vanilla" artist. Perhaps compensation for the subject-matter? I dunno, maybe it's just a niche thing. All I know is is that Sigmund Freud would have an absolute field-day with Fanfiction writers and doujinshi artists, especially the bad ones.

[Strangelove]

Naruto/Mitoko where Naruto travels back in time and screws Mitoko. This causes her to conceive Itachi, and thus, the difference in ability between Itachi and Sasuke (whose father is not Naruto). This story makes sure cite THAT as the reason why Sasuke is weaker.

 

I remember one that was similar to that, but it involved Naruto traveling to the pre shinobi era and becoming the Sage's grandfather??? by sleeping with Sakura and conceiving Kaguya.

 

Yeah it was something like that...

[Kamina-Yoshi]

 

I remember one that was similar to that, but it involved Naruto traveling to the pre shinobi era and becoming the Sage's grandfather??? by sleeping with Sakura and conceiving Kaguya.

 

Yeah it was something like that...

That sounds like some Back to the Future stuff.

 

"Hey, Jiraiya, what's with that toad?"

"This isn't just any toad, Naruto, this is my time-travelling ToadLorean! It'll take us wherever we wanna go!"

"Oh jeez, old man, does this mean we gotta hit the road?"

"Road? Naruto, where we're going, we don't need roads!"

[TheFirstEvil100]

Some people are just sick I read one where Hinata killed Sakura and Naruto just watched with a smile hell in another he killed Sakura and her mother and after that proceeded to 'do it' with Hinata. Talk about sick put me off FF for a while.

 

But then I saw a sweet story in which Kushina while dead meets Sakura while dreaming and show Sakura that she loves Naruto, I mean it gave many NS fans what we want Sakura seeing Kushina, what funny is at the end she said give me lots of grand babies.

[Helena]

 

For some people it's a turn-on. For others, it's a curiosity. Sometimes the writer writes a tad bit better (more focus on eroticism for the porn rather than simply illustrating sex as ham-fisted as hammering a wall with a sledgehammer), or the artist of the doujinshi draws better. It's pretty weird, but somehow you notice that in the "incest"/taboo stories the artist actually draws better than that of a "vanilla" artist. Perhaps compensation for the subject-matter? I dunno, maybe it's just a niche thing. All I know is is that Sigmund Freud would have an absolute field-day with Fanfiction writers and doujinshi artists, especially the bad ones.

 

Yes... I completely understand that it may be a "turn-on" for some people, but stil... Unsettles me a little.

I haven't noticed this doujinshi issue until you pointed out, but it makes sense...It can be a compensation as you say, or maybe just a formula of repressed Oedipus complex + the anonymity provided by the internet = something you already had the displeasure to read/see.

 

Hum, who knows? It's indeed an interesting subject to reflect on 

[Madz]

I think when it's concerning fanfiction related to manga, these disturbing theme (incest, rape etc) exist because unfortunately the manga's world DOES frequently contain these themes.

 

As much as I LOVE mangas and the Japanese culture, I have been forced to realise that the Japanese taste in terms of litterature can sometimes quite....disturbing. Or maybe they are more honest about it? They are open about liking incest/rapes/torture/ - and express these tates without any inhibitions in their litterature.

 

The past year I have (finally) started to read other mangas than Naruto / Bleach / One Piece(the nicey adventurous types) etc, and trust me, the fanfictions mentioned here is much more TAME as some of the mangas that I have come accross! And I'm talking about very easily accessible mangas, as accessible as Naruto etc and present in all manga sites. But read them did I, out of (morbid) curiosity- gritting my teeth and holding my horrifying heart to be able to go through some of them and sometimes just could not.

 

So, what I'm trying to say is that the people who actually wrote these disturbing fanfictions mentioned above maybe be those who are used to those types of mangas too.

 

Madz

[Jenskott]

 

 

How do people find these mad fics..OrochimaruxSakura? The synopsis alone would scare me away.

 

You know, when I suspect a fic may be something will make want gouging my eyes out, usually I read the reviews (because if it is tripe I am NOT giving it a hit). Usually, if it is a rape, torture, hate... fic the reviewers will comment on it (often praising the author and congratulating him by such a stuff like "putting that b*tch in her place").

 

That tactic has served me well, especially in Adultfiction.net, where you are never sure of what mind-scarring horrors lie behind a click.

 

By the way, I give a prayer for those poor souls visited Adultfanfiction.net having no idea of what kind of site it was.

I think some people are sick and try to infect us with their sickness. Or maybe it's just their intimate fantasies, lol. Disgusting really.

 

 

 

I think some people are sick and try to infect us with their sickness. Or maybe it's just their intimate fantasies, lol. Disgusting really.

 

Maybe I sound judgemental, but honestly I have thought that sometimes. People will write a multi-chapter fanfic where the main character savagely rapes and tortures a female character (coincidentally, the outspoken tsundere) before cold-bloodely murdering her and destroying her corpse (and getting away with everything), and then the writer will claim they are not his fantasies. Are you joking? This has come out of YOUR head. YOU have imagined this. And YOU thought a fic with that content would be arousing or other people would find it arousing.

 

Sadly I have found that kind of tripe.

 

 

 

As much as I LOVE mangas and the Japanese culture, I have been forced to realise that the Japanese taste in terms of litterature can sometimes quite....disturbing. Or maybe they are more honest about it? They are open about liking incest/rapes/torture/ - and express these tates without any inhibitions in their litterature.

 

Personally I always take effort on separating "Japanese culture and mindset" from "quirky, eccentric or disturbing stuff Japanese makers of comics, cartoons, games... think audience will love" and not mingling them. It is not the same thing at all.

 

It is true they have a different attitude regarding what kind of themes and scenes can and can not be admisible in comic-books aimed for kids and teens. But it does not mean they are more open about liking certain kind of stuff. Large numbers of otaku population love reading incest hentai, but most Japanese do not. Blood siblings incest is not more tolerated there than here.

 

When Go Nagai started making manga (Indecent School, Devilman, Mazinger-Z, Cutey Honey, Violence Jack...) in the late sixties/early seventies, he quickly earned a reputation for introducing fanservice, excess gore and often outright disturbing stuff in manga and anime aimed for the teen crowd. Nobody had done that before. He got heavily criticised for it.

 

Besides, many of those writers add disturbing stuff for shock value. There is many comic-"writers" do not know how writing a good story that appeals or draws people; so they add excess gore, out-of-place sex scenes, rape, torture, etcetera... to shock people and thus drawing attention. There are many Western comic-book writers also do that. "No one likes my story! What can I do... That's right, I will include maimings and a rape scene, and pretend my comic-book literature piece is adult, mature and unafraid of pushing the envelope! Inmature teenagers will buy it in droves!"

 

So it is not a culture thing.

 

Anyway, I will not touch with a ten-meter-pole fics containing:

 

- Rape

- Torture

- Character-bashing, especially if it is fueled by shipping issues

- Drama for the sake of drama (for example, after failing in retrieving Sasuke, Sakura hits Naruto and the villagers all but stone him, forcing him to leave Konoha. Then Naruto becomes a dark, moody badass, Sakura gets angsty and looks for ways to atone her sins... That situation makes absolutely NO sense according canon, but the author is altering canon to create an artificial situation in order to have his/her story ongoing because he is unable to think of an organic way to have Naruto leaving the village, so he/she takes the easy road, even if it does not fit and it is out-of-character)

- Author shoving his/her political agenda down my throat

Edited by Jenskott, 25 March 2014 - 11:54 AM.

[Luna]

You know, when I suspect a fic may be something will make want gouging my eyes out, usually I read the reviews (because if it is tripe I am NOT giving it a hit). Usually, if it is a rape, torture, hate... fic the reviewers will comment on it (often praising the author and congratulating him by such a stuff like "putting that b*tch in her place").
 
That tactic has served me well, especially in Adultfiction.net, where you are never sure of what mind-scarring horrors lie behind a click.
 
By the way, I give a prayer for those poor souls visited Adultfanfiction.net having no idea of what kind of site it was.
I think some people are sick and try to infect us with their sickness. Or maybe it's just their intimate fantasies, lol. Disgusting really.
 
 
Maybe I sound judgemental, but honestly I have thought that sometimes. People will write a multi-chapter fanfic where the main character savagely rapes and tortures a female character (coincidentally, the outspoken tsundere) before cold-bloodely murdering her and destroying her corpse (and getting away with everything), and then the writer will claim they are not his fantasies. Are you joking? This has come out of YOUR head. YOU have imagined this. And YOU thought a fic with that content would be arousing or other people would find it arousing.
 
Sadly I have found that kind of tripe.
 
 
Personally I always take effort on separating "Japanese culture and mindset" from "quirky, eccentric or disturbing stuff Japanese makers of comics, cartoons, games... think audience will love" and not mingling them. It is not the same thing at all.
 
It is true they have a different attitude regarding what kind of themes and scenes can and can not be admisible in comic-books aimed for kids and teens. But it does not mean they are more open about liking certain kind of stuff. Large numbers of otaku population love reading incest hentai, but most Japanese do not. Blood siblings incest is not more tolerated there than here.
 
When Go Nagai started making manga (Indecent School, Devilman, Mazinger-Z, Cutey Honey, Violence Jack...) in the late sixties/early seventies, he quickly earned a reputation for introducing fanservice, excess gore and often outright disturbing stuff in manga and anime aimed for the teen crowd. Nobody had done that before. He got heavily criticised for it.
 
Besides, many of those writers add disturbing stuff for shock value. There is many comic-"writers" do not know how writing a good story that appeals or draws people; so they add excess gore, out-of-place sex scenes, rape, torture, etcetera... to shock people and thus drawing attention. There are many Western comic-book writers also do that. "No one likes my story! What can I do... That's right, I will include maimings and a rape scene, and pretend my comic-book literature piece is adult, mature and unafraid of pushing the envelope! Inmature teenagers will buy it in droves!"
 
So it is not a culture thing.
 
Anyway, I will not touch with a ten-meter-pole fics containing:
 
- Rape
- Torture
- Character-bashing, especially if it is fueled by shipping issues
- Drama for the sake of drama (for example, after failing in retrieving Sasuke, Sakura hits Naruto and the villagers all but stone him, forcing him to leave Konoha. Then Naruto becomes a dark, moody badass, Sakura gets angsty and looks for ways to atone her sins... That situation makes absolutely NO sense according canon, but the author is altering canon to create an artificial situation in order to have his/her story ongoing because he is unable to think of an organic way to have Naruto leaving the village, so he/she takes the easy road, even if it does not fit and it is out-of-character)
- Author shoving his/her political agenda down my throat

This!!!! I've been reading a NS fanfic called "Unexpected One" it was good until Naruto found out the child was his. The writer made Naruto say Sakura is the worse excuse for a mother and he cussed her. It was horrible. Went a bit overboard and it was like Sakura bashing for a NS fic.

[Helena]

 

You know, when I suspect a fic may be something will make want gouging my eyes out, usually I read the reviews (because if it is tripe I am NOT giving it a hit). Usually, if it is a rape, torture, hate... fic the reviewers will comment on it (often praising the author and congratulating him by such a stuff like "putting that b*tch in her place").

 

That tactic has served me well, especially in Adultfiction.net, where you are never sure of what mind-scarring horrors lie behind a click.

 

By the way, I give a prayer for those poor souls visited Adultfanfiction.net having no idea of what kind of site it was.

I think some people are sick and try to infect us with their sickness. Or maybe it's just their intimate fantasies, lol. Disgusting really.

 

 

Maybe I sound judgemental, but honestly I have thought that sometimes. People will write a multi-chapter fanfic where the main character savagely rapes and tortures a female character (coincidentally, the outspoken tsundere) before cold-bloodely murdering her and destroying her corpse (and getting away with everything), and then the writer will claim they are not his fantasies. Are you joking? This has come out of YOUR head. YOU have imagined this. And YOU thought a fic with that content would be arousing or other people would find it arousing.

 

Sadly I have found that kind of tripe.

 

 

Personally I always take effort on separating "Japanese culture and mindset" from "quirky, eccentric or disturbing stuff Japanese makers of comics, cartoons, games... think audience will love" and not mingling them. It is not the same thing at all.

 

It is true they have a different attitude regarding what kind of themes and scenes can and can not be admisible in comic-books aimed for kids and teens. But it does not mean they are more open about liking certain kind of stuff. Large numbers of otaku population love reading incest hentai, but most Japanese do not. Blood siblings incest is not more tolerated there than here.

 

When Go Nagai started making manga (Indecent School, Devilman, Mazinger-Z, Cutey Honey, Violence Jack...) in the late sixties/early seventies, he quickly earned a reputation for introducing fanservice, excess gore and often outright disturbing stuff in manga and anime aimed for the teen crowd. Nobody had done that before. He got heavily criticised for it.

 

Besides, many of those writers add disturbing stuff for shock value. There is many comic-"writers" do not know how writing a good story that appeals or draws people; so they add excess gore, out-of-place sex scenes, rape, torture, etcetera... to shock people and thus drawing attention. There are many Western comic-book writers also do that. "No one likes my story! What can I do... That's right, I will include maimings and a rape scene, and pretend my comic-book literature piece is adult, mature and unafraid of pushing the envelope! Inmature teenagers will buy it in droves!"

 

So it is not a culture thing.

 

Anyway, I will not touch with a ten-meter-pole fics containing:

 

- Rape

- Torture

- Character-bashing, especially if it is fueled by shipping issues

- Drama for the sake of drama (for example, after failing in retrieving Sasuke, Sakura hits Naruto and the villagers all but stone him, forcing him to leave Konoha. Then Naruto becomes a dark, moody badass, Sakura gets angsty and looks for ways to atone her sins... That situation makes absolutely NO sense according canon, but the author is altering canon to create an artificial situation in order to have his/her story ongoing because he is unable to think of an organic way to have Naruto leaving the village, so he/she takes the easy road, even if it does not fit and it is out-of-character)

- Author shoving his/her political agenda down my throat

 

This!!! Thanks! My thoughts exactly!

 

And those excuses for a drama are the worst ones... I need a tissue but for a completely different reason! I mean, I just laugh so hard I don't even...

[Lodus]

Red Feathers .. One you understand the story and really think about the implications, it's an amazing plot that mind fu*ked me pretty hard. I really enjoyed reading it.

 

Though I'm waiting for the update ... and we all know how that is .. )))):

[Lid]

This!!!! I've been reading a NS fanfic called "Unexpected One" it was good until Naruto found out the child was his. The writer made Naruto say Sakura is the worse excuse for a mother and he cussed her. It was horrible. Went a bit overboard and it was like Sakura bashing for a NS fic.

 

You know, when it comes to character bashing, I don't find it disturbing, I just find it immature. If your sole purpose of writing a story is simply to hate on a character, it just makes the writer look like a petty child.

[Kamina-Yoshi]

Can I add more to this?

Any fanfiction that includes the Kyuubei, in any form possible. No one can write him; it's as if people just generally do not understand the concept of a giant, evil daemon locked within a child. They portray it so embarrassingly bad, that it makes me just want to cry. They turn him into some trash-talking imbecile of a creature or a scandal-chasing, baby-making female-ensnaring ambigiously-sexual'd pathetic mess. He's practically a God on Earth and all people can think to do with him is to put Naruto in heat to make weird furry-babies with human women (or with "Kurama" himself/herself/itself) or destroy everything.

 

HI GUYS I'M TYPING IN BOLD IT'S ME KURAMA! NO, NOT THE ONE FROM YU YU HAKUSHO, THAT WOULD BE ORIGINAL. NO, IT'S JUST ME, YOUR TRASH-TALKING HIP-HOPPIN' DAEMON FROM GOD- I MEAN, KAMI KNOWS WHERE. CAPSLOCK MEANS I'M DAEMONIC, AMIRITE