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Posted 14 July 2023 - 01:45 AM

Ya know more emphasis on the comedy, showcase Naruto's good well nature with everyone - > yes Sasuke & Hinata included... Definitely a huge lack of overused flashback.

 

Think like this... Naruto wants to become Hokage

 

 

let's explore what steps he has to take as a shinobi to become hokage, and no kittening detours....  Yeah "Saving Sasuke" for post- timeskip plotline looking at you lol 

 

 

It could be a goal, but not the primary goal of Part 2. 

 

 

Expand more upon the world building of the ninja world. 

 

 

the history of Shinobi could be like an ancient myth that once existed, but no one's been able to prove of its existence. 

 

 

Let's take Gol D. Roger for example... he started an era on the day of his execution.

 

 

 

So in conjunction with that lets say use Tailed beasts for example.... say that their regarded as myths throughout the world, and only a rare select individuals know of their existence.

 

 

They wouldn't be exclusive to just near by villages.... in my opinion I feel that severely diminished the scope of the world of Naruto.

 

 

 

I think you could have it to where they can throughout each continent of the world, and they can be in locations that even anbu black ops would have a hard time knowing they actually existed. 

 

Essentially make them like mythological creatures no one has ever seen for centuries and centuries before Naruto's era.

 

 

 

Much like how Gol D. Roger ushered an into an new age of pirates in One Piece.....  

 

 

 

The night The Nine Tails attacked the Leaf Village in that sense could kickstart a new era of Shinobi in search of these Mythological creatures. 

 

 

 

 

I'll take it a step further,.... The 5 great nations...  we visit Sand village for example, but instead of just getting a brief overview... we actually see how people live their lifestyle, their culture, and how they differ from The Leaf Village. 

 

You could do the same thing with the Stone,  Cloud, and Mist Village too. 

 

 

 

You explore how distinct the shinobi are in each village. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Something along those lines.


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Posted 16 July 2023 - 03:36 PM

Hes referring to when you got agitated during the recording when they were trying to finish up their point.

When you were interrupting him but Steve and I were telling you to wait your turn.

Im not exactly getting onto you about it cause I know you were dealing with something before we started recording last years anniversary podcast.

I think thats what he means by hoping youre in a better mood this time when we do the podcast this year!

  

yes that's what i meant by that,


Having just recently watched most of the podcast we pretty much interrupted eachother quite alot and I probably got agitated because I felt singled out for that.

To be honest I wasn't really enthusiastic on this topic as I don't really think naruto would go evil unless iruka tried to kill naruto in chapter 1, because once he makes the bonds with team 7 I don't see that changing unless you do some injustice scenario and the majority of team 7 is dead

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Posted 16 July 2023 - 10:21 PM

  
Having just recently watched most of the podcast we pretty much interrupted eachother quite alot and I probably got agitated because I felt singled out for that.

To be honest I wasn't really enthusiastic on this topic as I don't really think naruto would go evil unless iruka tried to kill naruto in chapter 1, because once he makes the bonds with team 7 I don't see that changing unless you do some injustice scenario and the majority of team 7 is dead

that or they betray him 



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Posted 16 July 2023 - 11:00 PM

that or they betray him 


I can't really see team 7 betraying naruto, at least kakashi and sakura

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Posted 16 July 2023 - 11:05 PM

I can't really see team 7 betraying naruto, at least kakashi and sakura


Thats why we called it a what if, blue!

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Posted 16 July 2023 - 11:11 PM

Having just recently watched most of the podcast we pretty much interrupted each other quite a lot and I probably got agitated because I felt singled out for that.

To be honest I wasn't really enthusiastic on this topic as I don't really think Naruto would go evil unless Iruka tried to kill Naruto in chapter 1, because once he makes the bonds with team 7 I don't see that changing unless you do some injustice scenario and the majority of team 7 is dead

There are several ways Naruto could become evil. That is why he has so many dark reflections. Iruka being one, Sasuke death being another, and Sakura being killed is the biggest. That's why Obito is Naruto ultimate dark reflection.



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Posted 23 July 2023 - 04:42 AM

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Oh look, Sakura being a good mother to her son.


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Posted 23 July 2023 - 10:17 PM

Thats why we called it a what if, blue!

i've read a bunch of naruto betrayed fanfic where even tsunade and jiraya and sometimes in minato and kushina betraying him



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Posted 25 July 2023 - 12:05 AM

I doubt you plan your ending since the beginning because you never know if your series will be a hit or flop.

Technically, most writers have an ending in mind when they first start a story. It may change a bit, but the general idea of the ending is always there. 



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Posted 27 July 2023 - 04:59 AM

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Posted 27 July 2023 - 05:08 AM

Two of these I wished to see canon, but didn't unfortunatley!

 

 

The other two  (NaLu, and LuNa) I can definitely see the horizon spreading for them both especially with NaLu! 


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Posted 27 July 2023 - 05:38 AM

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Two of these I wished to see canon, but didn't unfortunatley!

 

 

The other two  (NaLu, and LuNa) I can definitely see the horizon spreading for them both especially with NaLu! 

Agreed on all fronts.


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Posted 27 July 2023 - 02:38 PM

Two of these I wished to see canon, but didn't unfortunatley!

 

 

The other two  (NaLu, and LuNa) I can definitely see the horizon spreading for them both especially with NaLu! 

luffy and nami would be nice though oda might have him get with boa



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Posted 27 July 2023 - 05:31 PM

luffy and nami would be nice though oda might have him get with boa

Even though Luffy rejected her twice. Lol

Thats the big difference between Naruto and ichigo. Both were rather oblivious to Hinata and Orihimes love.

Luffy at least knows and hes still just like I dont care.

I think its also really telling when you see this how Oda mimicked Luffy meeting a girl who looked very similar to nami in the original one shots for one piece.


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Plus Oda did say he emulates a lot of Luffy, and his wife emulates nami especially that she cosplayed as her too!

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Posted 27 July 2023 - 05:35 PM

i've read a bunch of naruto betrayed fanfic where even tsunade and jiraya and sometimes in minato and kushina betraying him

Ah yes, those fics...

 

I really can't stand that revenge fulfillment/power fantasy garbage since it requires everyone to be grossly out of character and expects us to root for Naruto when he becomes a psychopathic PoS that puts Orochimaru to shame.  Oh, and Hinata is always naturally immune because "she always had Naruto's back.", even when she hid in the shadows and did nothing as he was "abused". :mellow:


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Posted 27 July 2023 - 05:54 PM

Ah yes, those fics...
 
I really can't stand that revenge fulfillment/power fantasy garbage since it requires everyone to be grossly out of character and expects us to root for Naruto when he becomes a psychopathic PoS that puts Orochimaru to shame.  Oh, and Hinata is always naturally immune because "she always had Naruto's back.", even when she hid in the shadows and did nothing as he was "abused". :mellow:



If it came to me and writing a role reversal story of Naruto being the bad guy and sasuke being good.8 honestly dont think Hinata would have any relevancy at all especially her infatuation with Naruto too.


I do however see Sakura gaining a huge major role and growth out of it though.

In that putting all that high of a pedestal on Sasuke really set off the edge and he just needed someone to understand him and feel welcome.

I could even see it where it breaks her crush phase. On sasuke too.

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Posted 27 July 2023 - 07:18 PM

Ah yes, those fics...

 

I really can't stand that revenge fulfillment/power fantasy garbage since it requires everyone to be grossly out of character and expects us to root for Naruto when he becomes a psychopathic PoS that puts Orochimaru to shame.  Oh, and Hinata is always naturally immune because "she always had Naruto's back.", even when she hid in the shadows and did nothing as he was "abused". :mellow:

I honestly avoid Naruto Hinata fics because of those, because they are all the same. Same, whining. Same, oh woe is me. Same no one has suffered as I have suffer. Same vindictive petty sadistic bloodlust. Same harem of characters the writer clearly lusts after.

 

Hinata often becomes his second who wipes out the rest of the village (down to the infants in their pleading mother's arms) while he goes after those that personally wronged him; mainly Sakura. And defeats easily while ranting and complaining.

 

If it came to me and writing a role reversal story of Naruto being the bad guy and sasuke being good.8 honestly don't think Hinata would have any relevancy at all especially her infatuation with Naruto too.

I do however see Sakura gaining a huge major role and growth out of it though.

In that putting all that high of a pedestal on Sasuke really set off the edge and he just needed someone to understand him and feel welcome.

I could even see it where it breaks her crush phase. On sasuke too.

If we honestly look at Hinata. She would be a lesser Sakura. Instead of chasing after him or trying to bring him back. She would just lament him turning evil, going "Naruto-kun," and do nothing else. Granted her fans will still defend her if that happened because double standards.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 28 July 2023 - 07:14 AM.


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Posted 27 July 2023 - 09:28 PM

Even though Luffy rejected her twice. Lol

Thats the big difference between Naruto and ichigo. Both were rather oblivious to Hinata and Orihimes love.

Luffy at least knows and hes still just like I dont care.

I think its also really telling when you see this how Oda mimicked Luffy meeting a girl who looked very similar to nami in the original one shots for one piece.


https://twitter.com/...aTlXNBKtpnMaQ4A

Plus Oda did say he emulates a lot of Luffy, and his wife emulates nami especially that she cosplayed as her too!


Unless oda decide to have luffy as an asexual like many thought sasuke would end up being

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Posted 27 July 2023 - 09:48 PM

Unless oda decide to have luffy as an asexual like many thought sasuke would end up being

He's shown that he has a sex drive after being exposed to the Happiness Punch by Nami (and when Bentram disguised himself as Nami and did the same thing). Heck, Luffy himself even admitted to Boa that the only reason her powers didn't work on him is because she had pissed him off too much to think lewd thoughts.


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Posted 27 July 2023 - 10:05 PM

He's shown that he has a sex drive after being exposed to the Happiness Punch by Nami (and when Bentram disguised himself as Nami and did the same thing). Heck, Luffy himself even admitted to Boa that the only reason her powers didn't work on him is because she had pissed him off too much to think lewd thoughts.


Thats exactly what I was about to say too and they are all pretty valid reasons. Especially when it comes to Luffy and his attraction to woman. Along with the point you brought up about Boas power having no effect on Luffy. He was simply too annoyed to even have those kinda thoughts about her.

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