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Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:44 AM

I'll be lying if I was perfectly fine with Jack finale.

 

At least it's better than Naruto Jack and Ashi was developed right and not forced like NH. Sometimes I think it would have been better if Naruto never ended with no one. If he would have become Hokage without a woman in his life. I would have prefer that a million times than the piece of kitten Kishimoto did.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:53 AM

yeah heck even megaman battle network had a better series ending, same with megaman starforce. alot of games have such good endings they make naruto look bad.

Was battle network the one with lan and Maylu cause they got together which I'm all for cause I like those two, also battle network had cross fusion right.

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:55 AM

At least it's better than Naruto Jack and Ashi was developed right and not forced like NH. Sometimes I think it would have been better if Naruto never ended with no one. If he would have become Hokage without a woman in his life. I would have prefer that a million times than the piece of kitten Kishimoto did.


That would be better and it would spare us that dumbass ova that ruined naruto becoming hokage cause of his little brats.

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 12:53 PM

Well, it's definitely better than Naruto. That's for sure.



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:25 PM

Was battle network the one with lan and Maylu cause they got together which I'm all for cause I like those two, also battle network had cross fusion right.

yeah, battle network 6 ended with lan and maylu getting together, the anime was different but had cross fusion. games and manga had full synchro


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:21 PM

injustice 2 is so fun, loving dr fate and want to read his comics and see him in every show he's been in.

 

granted i didn't like either ending in the game but go figure, fate gets one hell of a happy one in the arcade.



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 08:51 PM

injustice 2 is so fun, loving dr fate and want to read his comics and see him in every show he's been in.
 
granted i didn't like either ending in the game but go figure, fate gets one hell of a happy one in the arcade.

Is it good like better than the first one? Which ending is the canon ending superman or batman I'm guessing batman is the canon ending. The comics look interesting got to get the rest of the first game tie in.
Weren't the Guardians of green Lantern all killed in year 3 of the comics so how can they be in this.

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:00 PM

yeah, battle network 6 ended with lan and maylu getting together, the anime was different but had cross fusion. games and manga had full synchro


Well that's one couple I liked that happened. It didn't go against the story and characters did it cause I only play one of those megaman nt games, wonder if Megaman and roll hooked up?

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:30 PM

obviously batmans is canon because batman is dc's cow. there's already plot holes, retcons and inconsistencies in the first chapter. in other words; dont bother with the injustice comics.



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 10:34 PM



Well, it's definitely better than Naruto. That's for sure.

I consider ANYTHING Better than Naruto :fu: even the worst pieces of literature and fiction never betrayed their themes. the traditional Disney Princess movies are down right masterpieces compared to this despite their simplistic writing because at least their themes are carried on through and their Fairytale romance is done INFINITELY BETTER "The Last Retcon".(And I'm not insulting Disney Princess Movies, but they are simplistic and I find even they are god tier writing compared to Naruto) THE MOST GENERIC JAPANESE BATTLE HAREM LIGHT NOVELS that make me cringe are downright "Shakespeare" level of genius compared to Naruto because again, they don't at least betray their themes for a cash grab, or because they are sick of writing the series.

 

I consider Bleach, despite all of it's unsatisfyingly unanswered questions and plot holes, to be the infinitely better ending because At least Kubo ended Bleach the way he wanted, even if it's not as detailed or as fulfilling as he had hoped. I DO NOT feel any satisfaction on how Kishi ended Naruto, and I feel he doesn't feel satisfied either. Because if he was, why does he even need to address how he planned NH from the start and kick down the importance of his other characters to Justify NH a million times?      


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 11:20 PM

obviously batmans is canon because batman is dc's cow. there's already plot holes, retcons and inconsistencies in the first chapter. in other words; dont bother with the injustice comics.

I'm still going to read them. Doesn't batman's ending in the main story have superman being put in the Phantom zone and supergirl taking superman's place in the justice League? Do you fight superman more in injustice 2 than the first game. The first chapter of what the game or comic?
  

I consider ANYTHING Better than Naruto :fu: even the worst pieces of literature and fiction never betrayed their themes. the traditional Disney Princess movies are down right masterpieces compared to this despite their simplistic writing because at least their themes are carried on through and their Fairytale romance is done INFINITELY BETTER that "The Last Retcon".(And I'm not insulting Disney Princess Movies, but they are simplistic and I find even they are god tier writing compared to Naruto) THE MOST GENERIC JAPANESE BATTLE HAREM LIGHT NOVELS that make me cringe are Shakespeare level of genius compared to Naruto because again, they don't at least betray their themes for a cash grab, or because they are sick of writing the series.
 
I consider Bleach, despite all of it's unsatisfyingly unanswered questions and plot holes, to be the infinitely better ending because At least Kubo ended Bleach the way he wanted, even if it's not as detailed or as satisfying as he had hoped. I DO NOT feel any satisfaction on how Kishi ended Naruto, and I feel he doesn't feel satisfied either. Because if he was, why does he even need to address why he planned NH from the start and kick down the importance of his other characters to Justify NH a million times?

Agreed on everything.
With bleach's ending you can still have ichiruki be canon with the ending not changing that much. Bleach had a decent ending and ichigo didn't get with orihime through a lie or retcon bull kitten. At least we see the end pairings on screen unlike naruto's plus both couples in bleach are more plausible than naruto's cause renji and rukia had a past together and we see them alot, not as much as ichigo and rukia but more than Sasuke and Sakura. Ichigo and orihime are shown more than naruto and Hinata and orihime is more helpful than hinata.
Kishi probably does but doesn't have the balls to say he kittened up.
I really hope fairy tail has a decent ending better than naruto even if Natsu and lucy or gray or juvia and the other couples get to together it will still be better than naruto.
You think naruto looks in the mirror and he doesn't see himself but a fake one and cries over his decision.

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 03:27 AM

Well that's one couple I liked that happened. It didn't go against the story and characters did it cause I only play one of those megaman nt games, wonder if Megaman and roll hooked up?

they never showed if megaman and roll hooked up but they were teased almost as much as lan and maylu were. nah it didn't go against the story and characters, those 2 were teased to end up together over the entire series, like lan dreaming about her on the airplane in the 2nd game, or their date in the 4th, I can't remember every single moment between them from every game off the top of my head but yeah.

I've played every battle network game though, twas an awesome ending, they even had a kid, just they teased it and never showed him. apparently the kid's name is patch.

 

I like megaman starforce better only because they take the story more seriously and I think the characters are more interesting plus love the 3d battle system and the awesome music. but yeah battle network is awesome and is way better than naruto.


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Posted 23 May 2017 - 02:13 PM

Nah, they'd let Sasuke kill his family, then come up with some BS "justification" like the whole "Curse of Hatred" for the Uchiha Clan in general. Oh no, most of them were NEVER power-hungry douches, but they were predetermined to do evil things because they "love more than anyone"!

That is the part that made me say "Done." This is probably the most utterly kitten thing I have ever heard in a story and I have heard some doozies.
 

When did Naruto (character) start to disappoint you?

When he started hand waving Sasuke's misdeeds away, but would never forgive anyone else's crime no matter what. When Naruto showed more favoritism towards Sasuke than his own village and proclaimed and hated anyone else who did the same or lied and cheated. When he tell others that doing such actions is wrong only to do the same actions in return and say "|Well, it is okay because it is a different circumstance."

Wrong is wrong no matter who does it. Naruto should know this. Even if he does it himself, he should still say that it is wrong even for himself. There would be times t do the wrong thing for the right reasons, but you still hate it and have a self-suffer over it if even for a moment.

Look at all the other heroes who know that wrong is wrong no matter who you are. Prestige or Hierarchy does not absolve it.


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Posted 23 May 2017 - 04:05 PM

Yup, Unfortunately The writing in Naruto became ALL ABOUT THEM "Uchiha boners". You notice how all plot central Uchihas get away scot free with all the crap they've pulled to ruin other people's lives? Recall how right before Itachi killed Fugaku (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not bothering to confirm with any source material)  and Mikoto, they were ALL SERENE and understanding as if their coup meant nothing to them, as long as they were portrayed as "saint parents" that could never hate their child for betraying them, even though they planned this rebellion for years and Itachi just slaughtered all of their kin?

 

Now while, they are not the the only offenders of the "karma houdini", their case is the absolute worst, because their sob story is the by far the most ridiculous, illogical, and unfeasible excuse I've ever heard of and read. :yucky:


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Posted 23 May 2017 - 04:32 PM

That is the part that made me say "Done." This is probably the most utterly kitten thing I have ever heard in a story and I have heard some doozies.
 


When he started hand waving Sasuke's misdeeds away, but would never forgive anyone else's crime no matter what. When Naruto showed more favoritism towards Sasuke than his own village and proclaimed and hated anyone else who did the same or lied and cheated. When he tell others that doing such actions is wrong only to do the same actions in return and say "|Well, it is okay because it is a different circumstance."
Wrong is wrong no matter who does it. Naruto should know this. Even if he does it himself, he should still say that it is wrong even for himself. There would be times t do the wrong thing for the right reasons, but you still hate it and have a self-suffer over it if even for a moment.
Look at all the other heroes who know that wrong is wrong no matter who you are. Prestige or Hierarchy does not absolve it.

Agreed on everything James with with Naruto started to an awful character. It's like in the first pirates movie where even though jack saved Elizabeth he was still a pirate and Norrington said one good deed doesn't redeem a life time of wicked Ness, hell fairy tail too it's credit did this better twice with Jellal getting arrested even if he helped beat the sies or with laxus saying you can't buy your back with one good deed after hades was beat.
As fearless leader from the live a ton rocky and bull Winkle movie said about his plan being like the Roger rabbit movie, shut up no this is totally different.
  

Yup, Unfortunately The writing in Naruto became ALL ABOUT THEM "Uchiha boners". You notice how all plot central Uchiha's get away scot free with all the crap they've pulled to ruin other people's lives? Recall How wight Before Itachi killed Fugaku (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not bothering to confirm with any source material)  and Mikoto, they were ALL SERENE and understanding as if their coup meant nothing to them, as long as they were portrayed as saint parents that could never hate their child for betraying them, even though they planned this rebellion for years
 
Now while, they are not the the only offenders of the "karma houdini", because their sob story is the by fare the most ,ridiculous, illogical, and unfeasible I've ever heard. :yucky:

And that backs up why the series isn't called sasuke when he is the main focus and Naruto. That thing with Itachi killing his parents makes no sense since we saw he do that twice already and its been retconed twice so who knows what's true I think his parents did say that before he killed them.
Wasn't the coup the main thing the Uchiha wanted and how you're saying they didn't, God this is stupid.
Like obito getting to be with rin after he started a war murdered how many people.
The Uchiha are not sympathetic in the slightest. If they took over the leaf it'd be like a second coming of Hitler and that would have happened if Naruto lost in the last 5 chapters.

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 05:57 PM

That is the part that made me say "Done." This is probably the most utterly kitten thing I have ever heard in a story and I have heard some doozies.
 

When he started hand waving Sasuke's misdeeds away, but would never forgive anyone else's crime no matter what. When Naruto showed more favoritism towards Sasuke than his own village and proclaimed and hated anyone else who did the same or lied and cheated. When he tell others that doing such actions is wrong only to do the same actions in return and say "|Well, it is okay because it is a different circumstance."

Wrong is wrong no matter who does it. Naruto should know this. Even if he does it himself, he should still say that it is wrong even for himself. There would be times t do the wrong thing for the right reasons, but you still hate it and have a self-suffer over it if even for a moment.

Look at all the other heroes who know that wrong is wrong no matter who you are. Prestige or Hierarchy does not absolve it.

 

Yeah, seeing Naruto so willing to quickly stop others committing something he sees as "wrong", yet constantly jumping to Sasuke's defense for similar, if not worse things was painful. ESPECIALLY like when he let Karui beat him up (as if that would somehow make her not want to kill Sasuke) and his literal prostrating and begging of Ay to get him to not kill Sasuke, even though it's something every village, including Konoha, does to such criminals. It made me SO happy to see Ay just rebuff him without question or hesitation, basically telling Naruto to get real. Back then, I still had SOME hope that MAYBE Naruto might start being at least a little more realistic in his thinking, but nope...if anything, it only further entrenched him in his way of thinking, and everyone else was just continued to be forced to conform to those views, even Ay.

That's really the only difference between Naruto and something like the Moon's Eye Plan - Naruto was never made to look "bad" by truly forcing everyone to think like him, but rather, because of BS writing, everyone else was made to magically willingly change their minds to conform to Naruto's way of thinking, thus making Naruto's way look "legitimate".
 

Yup, Unfortunately The writing in Naruto became ALL ABOUT THEM "Uchiha boners". You notice how all plot central Uchiha's get away scot free with all the crap they've pulled to ruin other people's lives? Recall How wight Before Itachi killed Fugaku (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not bothering to confirm with any source material)  and Mikoto, they were ALL SERENE and understanding as if their coup meant nothing to them, as long as they were portrayed as saint parents that could never hate their child for betraying them, even though they planned this rebellion for years

 

Now while, they are not the the only offenders of the "karma houdini", because their sob story is the by fare the most ,ridiculous, illogical, and unfeasible I've ever heard. :yucky:

Yeah, that made absolutely no sense. You even had it look like Itachi might have killed Shisui because of Shisui being loyal to the clan and discovering the plan to destroy the Uchiha Clan and Itachi had to silence him, but nope! Shisui was also completely good and was attacked by Danzo (thus further trying to make ONLY Konoha look bad) and willingly let Itachi kill him and take his other eye. And Obito isn't bad because he's SO much like Naruto and we all know Naruto can do no wrong! XP


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Posted 23 May 2017 - 06:26 PM

Yeah, seeing Naruto so willing to quickly stop others committing something he sees as "wrong", yet constantly jumping to Sasuke's defense for similar, if not worse things was painful. ESPECIALLY like when he let Karui beat him up (as if that would somehow make her not want to kill Sasuke) and his literal prostrating and begging of Ay to get him to not kill Sasuke, even though it's something every village, including Konoha, does to such criminals. It made me SO happy to see Ay just rebuff him without question or hesitation, basically telling Naruto to get real. Back then, I still had SOME hope that MAYBE Naruto might start being at least a little more realistic in his thinking, but nope...if anything, it only further entrenched him in his way of thinking, and everyone else was just continued to be forced to conform to those views, even Ay.
That's really the only difference between Naruto and something like the Moon's Eye Plan - Naruto was never made to look "bad" by truly forcing everyone to think like him, but rather, because of BS writing, everyone else was made to magically willingly change their minds to conform to Naruto's way of thinking, thus making Naruto's way look "legitimate".
 


Yeah, that made absolutely no sense. You even had it look like Itachi might have killed Shisui because of Shisui being loyal to the clan and discovering the plan to destroy the Uchiha Clan and Itachi had to silence him, but nope! Shisui was also completely good and was attacked by Danzo (thus further trying to make ONLY Konoha look bad) and willingly let Itachi kill him and take his other eye. And Obito isn't bad because he's SO much like Naruto and we all know Naruto can do no wrong! XP

Yes thank you so much for saying thank cause it's right on the money.
I loved when ay didn't listen to Naruto. Ya kauri venting her anger on naruto didn't solve anything with Sasuke. The Naruto unviserse sucks it dealing with crimals, if this was marvel or DC it'd be done right.
That and Naruto had a decent idea of how to change but the moon eye plan was a plot hole in and of it self and made no kittening sense. I seriously want a villain in naruto that doesn't fall for his talks and is just evil. Naruto need some sense beaten in to him back in part 1 after he lost to Sasuke. I blame tsunade for Naruto's current way of thinking letting him have to much freedom and letting him do and waste time and people.
Wait didn't shisui try to stop the coup? But got stopped by Danzo? Shisui is one of the only Uchiha I like outside mikoto.
It that a joke with Obito not being bad cause he's like Naruto?
The mindset of these writers just amazes me on how dumb they are. Every character in naruto makes stupid decision after stupid decision and not learning from it or getting conqucences.
Everything naruto does is wrong now, worse messiah ever along with neo from the matrix. Again I say naruto would have let everyone die if it meant saving sasuke, your kittening hero everyone.
Seriously the characters in naruto are bigger monsters than Freddy, pinhead, dr.doom, darkseid, thanos, zeref all those in just meant would call the characters of Naruto out on their bullcrap, and if Freddy, dr.doom and darkseid call you a monster worse than them you've done so,etching wrong and kittened up royally.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 08:23 AM

Uchiha is the root of all problem. Bad news when they get all the love from the author / writer.



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Posted 24 May 2017 - 11:02 AM

Uchiha is the root of all problem. Bad news when they get all the love from the author / writer.


Yes and their not interesting in the slightest. You'd think they'd get blacklisted after all the kitten madara, obito, Itachi pulled but somehow naruto probably covered all that up like he would do to protect sasuke.





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