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[James S Cassidy]

 

EXACTLY!

 

People ignored the obvious on what was going on in Beauty and the Beast. She gotten her adventure (hell, she lampshade it during her song when talking to the sheep about her favorite book). Initially, she did not want to pull up with Beast/Adam because how cruel he treated her when they first met when trying to save Maurice. It took her curiosity to be the blame when she saw and touch the magical rose that Beast screamed at her because she went to the West Wing as he explicitly said "It's forbidden", when she asked him about the area. She left the castle, scared because how he roared at her and was then ambushed by the wolves in the blizzard,  and when Beast realized his mistake, he went out and rescued her. And don't forget about the aftermath, how the two bickered back and forth like they were a married couple!    (The two are still one of my favorite Disney couples, it's one of the reason why Beauty and the Beast is #2 of my favorite Disney movies. Try to guess who's #1?)

 

While the scenes of their romance was rushed because 1) it was about a 90-minute movie (not to mention behind-the-scenes of time crunching and Howard Ashman's AIDS complications leading to his death), we can't determine how long Belle stayed, however because with the spin-offs, it sounded like she stayed in the castle more than a couple of months and 2) it was a goddamn kids movie. As I said before, we can't go too deep into it. 

 

We saw Beast/Adam's development. But I couldn't understand the Stockholm Syndrome BS. I think people were favoring her for Gaston, despite his villain role. 

It's like when people make an argument on whether or not Romeo and Juliet's relationship is legit because it only occurs within 5 days time frame. 

Although this may be true, people have to remember that the story is a stage play and not a novel. It is meant to be a 2 hour show where we are told they fell madly in love at first sight. It is not meant to express long relationships, but rather the TRAGEDY of a potential good relationship coming to an end because of a parents fued that they cared very little for. The fact that Romeo and Juliet didn't want to live without each other is proof of the love. 

With that said, how does a 2 hour stage play show a couple having more development than two pairings in a story that spans over 15 years?

[Dalton.T.R]

It's like when people make an argument on whether or not Romeo and Juliet's relationship is legit because it only occurs within 5 days time frame. 

Although this may be true, people have to remember that the story is a stage play and not a novel. It is meant to be a 2 hour show where we are told they fell madly in love at first sight. It is not meant to express long relationships, but rather the TRAGEDY of a potential good relationship coming to an end because of a parents fued that they cared very little for. The fact that Romeo and Juliet didn't want to live without each other is proof of the love. 

With that said, how does a 2 hour stage play show a couple having more development than two pairings in a story that spans over 15 years?

You can't write flashbacks in a play. That's how.

 

Has anyone actually bothered to check and see how much shorter the Naruto manga would have been without the flashbacks? I wouldn't be surprised if it was some 200 chapters shorter. 

[milan kyuubi]

https://twitter.com/...186646052429824

 

Is this true? Did Bolt got killed and Naruto forgave his sons murderer?       

 

It's trending on twitter.

Edited by milan kyuubi, 17 February 2022 - 10:57 AM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

https://twitter.com/...186646052429824
 
Is this true? Did Bolt got killed and Naruto forgave his sons murderer?       
 
It's trending on twitter.

Naruto probably helped kill him.

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 17 February 2022 - 03:42 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

https://twitter.com/...186646052429824

 

Is this true? Did Bolt got killed and Naruto forgave his sons murderer?       

 

It's trending on twitter.

Assuming this was leaks from the upcoming chapter. Well, Nail stab him through the chest last month, and Naruto's entire belief is to forgive everyone for any crime. If you think Bolt is truly dead, I have some nice swampland that I liked to sell to you.

[VanitasDS76491]

https://twitter.com/...186646052429824

 

Is this true? Did Bolt got killed and Naruto forgave his sons murderer?       

 

It's trending on twitter.

wow that's a new low for naruto if it's true and really showing how awful a character he is now and that he's still that 16 year old brat from shippuden. Him forgiving his son's killer if true is just as bad as in fresh prince of bel-air where will's dad comes back after 14 years and leaves again

[RulesofNature]

The kittening kitten is this kittening kitten!? Holy kitten this is kittening nuts that anyone thought this was a kittening good idea.

 

I'm just going to say this now. This shows the writers...really don't understand how people actually work. Naruto at this point, he's not written as a human being. He's written as a very, very flawed ideal. There's a difference, and kitten like this makes it impossible to emphasize with him.

 

You know, when SRW called out Kira for his actions they managed to humanize him. They had him admit he was looking away from the consequences and what he was actually doing, because it made fighting easier that way. Rather than the supposed paragon that Fukuda created, he was presented as a flawed human being and one in desperate need for character development to grow up. They also derail the destruction of some space colonies that happened as a consequence of Kira's actions, because SRW knows that there is no defending that loss of life while Kira and co. act like they did nothing wrong. Kira could be made into an actual character with the proper care.

 

Naruto is a lost cause.

[RedFaction]

The kittening kitten is this kittening kitten!? Holy kitten this is kittening nuts that anyone thought this was a kittening good idea.

 

I'm just going to say this now. This shows the writers...really don't understand how people actually work. Naruto at this point, he's not written as a human being. He's written as a very, very flawed ideal. There's a difference, and kitten like this makes it impossible to emphasize with him.

 

You know, when SRW called out Kira for his actions they managed to humanize him. They had him admit he was looking away from the consequences and what he was actually doing, because it made fighting easier that way. Rather than the supposed paragon that Fukuda created, he was presented as a flawed human being and one in desperate need for character development to grow up. They also derail the destruction of some space colonies that happened as a consequence of Kira's actions, because SRW knows that there is no defending that loss of life while Kira and co. act like they did nothing wrong. Kira could be made into an actual character with the proper care.

 

Naruto is a lost cause.

I agree, but he's been a lost cause since the infamous "coolest guy" moment.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I agree, but he's been a lost cause since the infamous "coolest guy" moment.

Yeah which is i prefer the translation where Naruto says he has nothing but respect for Obito, even if it isnt much better

[TheFirstEvil100]

Yeah which is i prefer the translation where Naruto says he has nothing but respect for Obito, even if it isnt much better

Yeah, this just shows that Naruto never grew up, and still thinks everyone has good inside or a tragic past.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Naruto is just like One more Day Peter Parker. They both refuse to grow up and accept responsibilities.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Naruto is just like One more Day Peter Parker. They both refuse to grow up and accept responsibilities.

Yep, all he cares for is Sasuke, well I don't care Naruto as a series can burn, right now I don't care I have better things to fight for since the stupid SJW's and the Woke are now after Tolkien and his work. And boy did they pick the wrong fanbase the kitten with.

[RulesofNature]

Yep, all he cares for is Sasuke, well I don't care Naruto as a series can burn, right now I don't care I have better things to fight for since the stupid SJW's and the Woke are now after Tolkien and his work. And boy did they pick the wrong fanbase the kitten with.

As a Moorcock fanboy, I'm a little glad he's become obscure.

 

But yeah, LotR (I can never get through the first book and have never attempted the movies. Both are on my to-do list). Wow. Of all the targets they could have went after, there's few as well-respected as LotR.

[Phantom_999]

Assuming this was leaks from the upcoming chapter. Well, Nail stab him through the chest last month, and Naruto's entire belief is to forgive everyone for any crime. If you think Bolt is truly dead, I have some nice swampland that I liked to sell to you.

 

How many times have we seen the MC seemingly "get killed" and turns out to be alive and well soon after? I'll believe Boruto is actually killed off after he stops being the MC and we actually get past that first page in the prologue chapter where both of them look to be 15-16 ish

Edited by Phantom_999, 19 February 2022 - 02:12 PM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

Im hoping Borutos death is nice and slow. And I hope he keeps surviving no matter how much he wants to die just so Nail could ask, why wont you die?! And Nail keeps finding new methods to kill him. And then finally Naruto wakes up out of this terrible dream.

[James S Cassidy]

 

How many times have we seen the MC seemingly "get killed" and turns out to be alive and well soon after? I'll believe Boruto is actually killed off after he stops being the MC and we actually get past that first page in the prologue chapter where both of them look to be 15-16 ish

This is going to be a writing failure element. They are going write a story where they keep pulling the "Dead, but not really" fake out over and over.

HISHE said it best in the Captain America Winter Soldier video

Black Widow: "Fury almost died"
Batman: "Yeah and then he didn't. Coulson, Stark, Loki....you thought they were gone and then they weren't. You should to be careful with that."

Superman: "He has a point though. If you keep dying and then bringing people back to life, nobody will accept it if one of you actually gets killed someday."


P.S. It is kind of weird for Natasha to care about Capt's love life.
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 19 February 2022 - 04:28 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

This is going to be a writing failure element. They are going write a story where they keep pulling the "Dead, but not really" fake out over and over.

That is gonna be dumb! At least when some comic books have done it, the death can last a good while, like when Superman died. Many felt he'd be back, but it was everything in between that we had to wait and see before Clark came back.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I agree, but he's been a lost cause since the infamous "coolest guy" moment.

Much sooner for me. At the very least, it was since his hyperventilating moment with Ay when he refused to spare Sasuke's life. 

[TheFirstEvil100]

As a Moorcock fanboy, I'm a little glad he's become obscure.

 

But yeah, LotR (I can never get through the first book and have never attempted the movies. Both are on my to-do list). Wow. Of all the targets they could have went after, there's few as well-respected as LotR.

Argh yeah, this is getting old, with Naruto thinking everyone has this stupid, tragic past, or the hero hates killing as you said with Kira sadly never seen SRW, but the kick back Kira got must have been super hard?

 

Lol, yeah, the pushback is super hard. As a Tolkien fan, this amazon series is going to be more woke crap, but it is funny because we know the lore inside and out. I mean, here is what made me laugh a while back they thought Kaguya could take on someone like Sauron, it was clear this was a Hinata fan because of the bio pick and an image of Hinata.

 

But then came many Tolkien fans saying how Sauron would either outright kill her or enslave her, how his arm is far better than her weak white Zetsu army, and so much more and the fool kept trying to say how Kaguya could win, saying she is a Hyuuga like his wifu Hinata/ the best female Character ever made, but more Tolkien fans kept going after him until he stopped answers them.

 

So, yeah Amazon and the woke have picked the wrong fight here one they will lose.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Much sooner for me. At the very least, it was since his hyperventilating moment with Ay when he refused to spare Sasuke's life.

Yeah. Which definitely is where things went downhill, and was one of the biggest signs things were already screwed