https://screenrant.c...ve-be-together/
idk if someone already shared this but i gotta give screenrant credit

I haven't but i do hear praise for boruto which imo is worse 😅

well regardless i hope it's well done. even sp has nh fans in their staff 

pretty nice sunset today. it reminded me of ns

 

 

Yeah I saw, apprantly they are nh fans though

where did you hear that?

https://youtu.be/osOOvxHOlws
fans are making their own animation of the manga. not sure if sp will take it down for copyright though if it's on youtube

...Again, Other because you watched it, you assume Kishimoto must have watched it, and been inspired by it. When there has never been mentioned of it in any interview. 

 

What has been mentioned is Slam Dunk, (and how it inspired the Naruto-Sakura-Sasuke dynamic,) which I assume you haven't read/watch.

 

Other there is a difference between speculating that Kishimoto may have been inspired by something and declaring it to be true. There is no evidence of him being inspired by that dragon quest anime, there is of him being inspired by Slam Dunk.

i'm not forcing you to believe that but yeah i do think he was inspired by it he was also i'm sure inspired by other series too. is it speculation that the minato manga which recently came out had basically identical scenes to sakura in the naruto manga? kishimoto never came out and confirmed this. kishi's interviews sometimes aren't even the truth he tried to convince his own wife hinata was based on her   i'm not even saying slam dunk wasn't something he also was inspired by imo it's clear he was 

Other, Kishimoto has never mentioned the Dragon Quest anime you watched as his primary inspiration for Naruto in any interview. He has mentioned that the NartuoXSasukeXSakura dynamics were based off of Slam Dunk. Which I assume you have not watch/read. Hanamichi Sakuragi was a dumb punk that falls in love with Haruko Akagi an avid basketball fan that has a crush on the ace's of her high school's basketball team the gifted Kaeda Rukawa. To win her affection Sakuragi joins the team and is rivals with Rukawa. In Slam Dunk, none of them end up together at the end. Rukawa was never interested in Akagi, and Sakuragi eventually became more interested in focusing on basketball. So if Haruko got together with Sakuragi, She would have been Haruko Sakuragi. Haruko Sakuragi. Haruno, Sakura. Sakura Haruno.

 

Crimson Fox, it is clear that you have given a lot of time to thinking deeply into why the ending happen, and you hope that Kishimoto's reasonings were just as deep to justify your contemplations.

 

The simple truth is this. Kishimoto did not have any long term story with tons of intricacies. His story is quite simple. For most of the characters of Naruto, unless they managed to hold his interest, their initial story was all they were going to get. 

 

For Sakura that means, near the end of the manga she would discover that Naruto was the one that gave her the forehead comment and fall in love with him. Of course plans change, as there was a change in how girls are portrayed in shounen, going from rarely fighting and mainly just hit the main character comically, to can and will fight while still hitting the main character comically, but that meant Kishimoto never really knew what to do with her beyond that. As he never fully understood the change nor embraced it.

 

Yahagi was Kishimoto's editor until right before the Pein arc. He was his editor for about 10 years when the average is 2. After Yahagi, Kishimoto went through 14 different editors in 5 years. Rumors have it that after Yahagi his next editor was a big fan of Hinata even wanting her to become the love interest/heroine and was the one pushing her to have the scenes she got in the Pein arc.

 

You seem to think that just because they didn't get together after the Rescue Gaara arc that Kishimoto abandoned it right then and there. When again, it was more him wanting them to get together at the end of the manga. If they did end the pairing at that arc. Why did Sakura have the moment when Naruto was in 4-tails? Why did she try to feed him ramen after the Shikamaru arc? Why she hug him after Pein? Why did she keep having scenes like that till near the end of the manga? The answer is again, they were suppose to get together until Kishimoto was 'convinced' to change it at the last minute.

 

Sakura is Kishimoto's type. He married a woman that everyone says is very like Sakura.

 

Kishimoto has said multiple times he does not get the appeal of Hinata, but went with her because he was told she was what the fans wanted. He understand why people like SS and thinks it's cliche. That might have changed after seeing how far Naruto-Boruto has fallen, but he can't do anything right now without it look like he is stabbing his former assistant in the back.

 

As for the Japanese fanbase...what has happened to Star Wars is a good analogue. Naruto's manga average sale was 3.47 million. Boruto averages out at around 100k. The SS manga got about 50K. Most of the Japanese fanbase either understand that the ending was a move to appease the Western Fanbase, or just assume it was his intention. Either way most have moved on with only nH and SS really staying around, with SS being the larger one by far.

i don't doubt slam dunk was a inspiration i don't remember him saying that but it's hard to find interviews with kishi now unfortunately. but for dragon quest i feel the similarities are pretty numerous. "a fire that doesn't go out till the target burns away"? even demon slayer pretty clearly copied dragon quest despite the author not saying it was an inspiration. it's not only dragon quest but also beet the vandal buster which was written by the same author which has similarity to naruto (in beet the vandal buster beet leaves for 3 years and reunites with poala his love interest). maam who's similar to sakura in the story has no skill and decides to leave to train and be useful to her team (not unlike sakura). she's also a tsundere and i think pop also calls her a monster because of her strength (not a hundred percent sure) and tells himself not to play around with her now that she can break rocks with her legs (pretty similar once again). there's also a ridiculously similar scene to the confession sakura does to sasuke in the series so i'm pretty convinced kishimoto took inspiration from it. there's a lot of similarity with zetsu with one character and one character was also a little similar to kaguya. all of the disciples of avan also wear pendants which might be similar to the first hokage necklace naruto was given too which in dragon quest also protect the wearer. dai's transformation also is triggered by his anger which is like how naruto used the nine tails power as well. also keep in mind slam dunk didn't have someone similar to hinata or karin (i assume since i haven't read slam dunk myself yet). 

https://myanimelist....514#msg70751514

gotta love how the minato manga brings us ns fans out of the woodwork

 

This one is simply wonderful, gave me the feels     

 

 

 

the second video is apparently only viewable in 3 countries which is crazy

Found this new one

 

ah... i really try and download amvs i hate when smth happens and youtube deletes it
 

Kishi has a sakura keychain at his desk and spent a hour or more trying to make sakura look prettier i don't think she's in the story for no reason. Him and/or his team were probably going for something similar to what dragon quest did. Another person in the forum also pointed out how sakura and poala also have similarity and an identical timeskip and beet the vandal buster was done by the same writer/illustrator as adventure of dai. Heck the fact other series have copied ns proves there actually was something there

I just saw an old NS art and looked at the comments and there was Koshej. Is that douche still around?

Seems so

I mean even a friend of mine recently came out of the naruto "closet" and told me he liked ns...mär was a series that probably took inspiration from ns but at least had some sort of closure at the end. Even in the final sasuke and naruto fight sakura forms naruto's rasengan with two hands because yuka miyata was carrying the fight

They did when?

https://youtu.be/vwf50V10xTU
https://youtu.be/kG5TR70F9V4
https://youtu.be/pntgLMa3Yac
https://youtu.be/t6cBSsBpTFE
I was at awesome con and someone asked Kate higgins to yell "naruto" and she did it perfectly

 
I think that the love triangle in Naruto resembles more the one in Slam Dunk, but without the sensational declaration from the protagonist.
 
This ending will only change if the author wants, but it seems that he no longer cares about his work and just wants to rest while it makes money for him.

Well dragon quest also had a shy hinata like girl so it goes beyond triangle

I wouldn't say the pairing's behind us... (Sp recently released a acrylic of sakura confessing to naruto) Yes some people watch boruto but many people don't like the sequel series much like people don't like the new star wars... Will disney do something to make amends for their actions? It might be unlikely. Or look at the way ash's story in pokemon ended. Many things not addressed and ash never even meets his dad. But it doesn't matter enough it seems. I still wouldn't claim all of ash's fans put the series behind them. Sakura was also a lot higher than hinata in the recent poll (higher than naruto and sasuke even). Sakura vs chiyo also won the fight poll as well.... Kishimoto was likely copying the love triangle in dragon quest: the adventure of dai but probably didn't do a great job but even so i don't think sakura was hated to a huge extent. There are youtubers nowadays who openly say sakura and naruto should've been together so at least some fans know it should've happened

Honestly, I don't know how you guys can keep going. It's been nearly 10 years... a decade. Right on guys 
 
Are we all ready for the 10th year anniversary of our ship's death Naruto ending? Are we going to get another interview? If so do you all think we going to get the "real" answer from Kishi's mouth now that Boruto manga has been developed to the point that the old pairing war will no longer harm the current serialized manga? 
 
But I sure will missed guys like NSForLife and Rikudou here on H&E.

Hmm considering all the evidence pointing to ns being what was supposed to be endgame and all the ns references kishi put in the Minato one shot and the quality of the art it goes to show that kishi made a mistake. Even his wife apparently doesnt buy nh. Do i want a interview? Yeah but even without one it's clear. I'm a naruto fan not a fan of boruto and if the people who made naruto are not happy why should i be? Same goes for how i feel about star wars right now

i have doubt any death would happen just look at adventure of dai and o-parts hunter's war sections

I just noticed the sad Naruto snowman in the left corner.
I guess that's his grave. A sad snowman. That is all that remains of the one we once considered a hero.

Just yet another reason the movie was terrible 😆

There was a naruto album released called naruto symphonic experience. I highly recommend it. The songs are from a live performance and i also saw some clips on youtube of it

pretty informative video. could be why naruto's new episodes were delayed for "quality improvement"

https://naruto-offic...w Item Showcase
New shinobi striker item coming based on the new weapon kishimoto drew sakura with in the naruto poll