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#1 Smiter

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 07:40 PM

As some of you will know, in recent times we have had problems with some members making insulting comments about characters, pairings, "rival" shipping fandoms, and individual fans.  Because of the recent events in the Naruto manga, emotions and tensions have been running high between all the shipping fandoms.

 

Everyone feels like they have to "protect" the pairing(s) they love, and this has led to increased amounts of bashing on all Naruto-related websites.  Even here, on Heaven & Earth.

 

So, the other Admins, Mods, and I would like to make our stance very clear on this issue:

 

 

What we are doing:

 

We will not ban talk about other pairings and their fandoms.  However, anyone who decides to bash any characters, pairings, fandoms or fans will face very strict action from the Admins and Mods - a warning and a high chance of being banned from the topic that the bashing comment was posted in.

 

We have a new tool that allows us to ban individual members from a topic, if we feel that they are trolling and/or bashing.  The Topic Ban is in addition to the normal disciplinary process, and it is entirely up to the mods if/when it will be used, and whether it is temporary or permanent.

 

For example, if someone decided to make repeated bashing comments in a chapter discussion thread, we would warn them AND ban them from that chapter thread.  That would serve as a warning not to do it again in the next chapter thread.

 

Persistent bashing would still lead to forum bans, as per the normal disciplinary process.

 

 

Why we have decided this:

 

Nobody likes having their favourite pairings/characters/series insulted and mocked.  So, why should we do it to others?  Bashing is just a vicious circle without end, and it does not make anyone look good.  Without exception, bashing just lowers the tone, and it makes our website look bad to others.

 

There are better ways to spend your time as well.  Instead of getting into arguments, just enjoy your favourite characters/pairings/series!  Play some games, read some stories, enjoy fanart, have interesting discussions.

 

 

How to avoid bashing:

 

Think before you post.  If you were a fan of the very thing you want to bash, how would you feel about it?  You don't like having your favourite things bashed, so why should you bash their favourite things?  We're all just fans and we simply chose our fandoms just because we enjoy them.

 

There are many ways to comment and have productive debates about things without bashing.  For example:

 

"This theory doesn't make sense to me, because... (manga evidence & viewpoint)" - that's fine.

 

"lol, they're just delusional." - that's not fine, and will lead to a warning.

 

If you see anything that is seen as bashing, please help steer the conversation away from that, and/or send a report to the mods!

 

Thank you for reading.  :smile:



#2 shadow_Uzumaki

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 09:10 PM

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#3 Mik3

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 09:42 PM

Word, we need this. Don't understand why some people are obssesed with other fans and their belief in their ships.


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#4 Darth Krypt

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:12 PM

Word, we need this. Don't understand why some people are obssesed with other fans and their belief in their ships.

 

Exactly. Its gotten more out of hand recently and I'm glad this new measure is being implemented.


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:15 PM

Seriously, this is still happening? One would think people would get over stuff like this about now. Anyway, this is an great addition Smiter, now we no longer need to worry about an thread being closed because a few people are being too ignorant.


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#6 sushi.

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:16 PM

People have been calling NH/SS fans delusional a lot lately, denying that NS is on the road to canon.

 

It's only coming closer and closer, I think we should watch out and think twice before we post. :ermm:

When the next NS moment arrive, we should stay away from the "in your face NH's", "they can't accept facts" attitude.

 

I've seen that.


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#7 Darth Krypt

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 12:16 AM

Wait, are our posts bashing bashers? :headscratch:


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:50 AM

Thank you admin and moderators. I believe the topic ban is a great addition. 

 

It is always best to enjoy without mockery :)


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:52 AM

Thanks for clarifying this for us! I, among others, appreciate that you laid out a very clear rule for us all to follow.  This seems very reasonable. :yes:


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#10 spring'scherryblossoms

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 04:28 AM

Thank you for this post.  :thumb:

Hopefully the fandom will be more peaceful now.  :smile:


Edited by spring'scherryblossoms, 19 June 2013 - 04:30 AM.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:02 AM

This gets a thumbs up from me. The word "delusional" is the most overused term in the shipping fandom. I can't help but feel like it belongs to a catchphrase from Mean Girls. 


Edited by Nefertieh, 19 June 2013 - 11:04 AM.

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#12 Smiter

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:21 AM

Thank you, guys.  :smile:

 

Bashing/gloating is something that really needs to be tackled, and the Topic Ban does indeed give us the possibility of removing rulebreakers from the topic, instead of having to close the whole thing.  But speed is still very important, as we (moderators AND members) all need to stop the bashing before it goes out of control and consumes an entire topic.

 

There are several people here who like other pairings as well as NaruSaku, so you can imagine how uncomfortable they would feel if others mocked the pairings they like.

 

I know that many people bash NaruSaku, but that doesn't mean we have to do the same thing to their fandoms.

 

Like megi said, it is always best to enjoy without mockery.  :smile: 






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