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[sushi.]

^ How long will you go on like this? Do you have any political views other than your complaints about social justice?

[Dalton.T.R]

Honestly, complaining about "social justice" is something that needs to happen more often. These people who call themselves" social justice warriors" destroy everything they get their hands on and anything under the sun offends them. Personally, I'm sick and tired of these crybabies and I'm glad people are pushing back against them. 

 

Also, how tf does Sanders still have supporters after that BS he pulled during the last presidential race? Selling out to Hillary and practically stabbing his supporters in the back? 

 

So far, 2020 is not looking good for the left, but there IS one Democrat I hope does somewhat well. I forget his name, but his views on technology taking over blue collar jobs has me at least somewhat interested in him. Sanders and the other socialist wannabes can take a hike. 

Edited by Dalton.T.R, 14 March 2019 - 06:38 PM.

[sushi.]

The left is not offended. Thats a myth and rightwings way to cowardly downplay an argument. You cant even counter it. Because you respond every critique with youre just offended, or you call us wannabes or snowflakes.

The left defends other communities and not just their own, so at times no offense is taken but we say this comment/action does real harm to people.

The right can be as offended as the left, and every side has snowflakes. But the ways rightwings choose to defend themselves makes me think that to them its all about how critique, whether it be right or wrong, makes them feel. Threatened, alone and paranoid. There are right wing snowflakes that cant take critique so much they create maga safe spaces where they can hate people in peace.

Sanders is by far the most popular blue candidate. He raised more for his campaign than any other, with 30$ each per donation. With how the dems won congress last year I think blue can win. Trumps reign has pushed people to the right but he also pushed people to the left.

Edited by sushi., 15 March 2019 - 12:13 AM.

[Dalton.T.R]

The left is not offended. Thats a myth and rightwings way to cowardly downplay an argument. 

Okay, I'm not even going to read the rest of what you wrote there. All I need is the bold words to call BS. The left gets offended at anything and everything, end of story. There's more than enough evidence to call that statement alone out as a lie.

[sushi.]

Okay, I'm not even going to read the rest of what you wrote there. All I need is the bold words to call BS. The left gets offended at anything and everything, end of story. There's more than enough evidence to call that statement alone out as a lie.

You seem offended. So sad.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

"Okay, I'm not even going to read the rest of what you wrote there. All I need is the bold words to call BS. The left gets offended at anything and everything, end of story."

That's another problem. Never bothering with reading entire statements; instead just picking and choosing one tiny part of it that contradicts what one is trying to say and then trying to frame it as negatively as possible regardless of what the rest of the statement contains. Like AOC makes statements about methane from cow farts and the right wing tries to make it sound like she's saying all cows should be banned, or she comments about faster, more efficient travel, like faster trains, besides just air travel and suddenly that's turned into her saying "ban air travel".

[Nate River]

"Okay, I'm not even going to read the rest of what you wrote there. All I need is the bold words to call BS. The left gets offended at anything and everything, end of story."

That's another problem. Never bothering with reading entire statements; instead just picking and choosing one tiny part of it that contradicts what one is trying to say and then trying to frame it as negatively as possible regardless of what the rest of the statement contains. Like AOC makes statements about methane from cow farts and the right wing tries to make it sound like she's saying all cows should be banned, or she comments about faster, more efficient travel, like faster trains, besides just air travel and suddenly that's turned into her saying "ban air travel".

 

It's unfortunate. Your point is a good one.

 

Your example is terrible. The right wing claimed she said that because it was, in fact, said. It was on her own website and in a document that her own office passed off to several media outlets. When she was mocked for it by righties and some lefties, she lied (and much of the media) lied about it and then sifted to claiming the release was accidental. It was in material deliberately released by her office. You can't slink away from that one.

 

Sanders is by far the most popular blue candidate. He raised more for his campaign than any other, with 30$ each per donation. With how the dems won congress last year I think blue can win. Trumps reign has pushed people to the right but he also pushed people to the left.

 

It's almost a year out from the first primary, people are still declaring (and they are still waiting on Biden). Its very early and doesn't mean much. As for Congress, GOP thought the same thing in 2012 after an even bigger Congressional win in 2010 than the Dems had in 2018  and it didn't work out. It's very common for the party in power to lose seats in the first midterm follow and election. Bush 43 was a rare exception. It's not really a good or accurate measure of success on the presidential level. 

 

 

 

Also, how tf does Sanders still have supporters after that BS he pulled during the last presidential race? Selling out to Hillary and practically stabbing his supporters in the back? 

 

So far, 2020 is not looking good for the left, but there IS one Democrat I hope does somewhat well. I forget his name, but his views on technology taking over blue collar jobs has me at least somewhat interested in him. Sanders and the other socialist wannabes can take a hike.

 

 

BS he pulled? It was Sanders that got screwed for the DNC. He had no obligation to just stand aside and had it too her (though the DNC clearly thought he did). As far as the 2020, I'll say the same as I did to sushi. It's early. Wake me in 2020.

 

Biden is the one they most fear the most. Trump's electoral victory came from the rust belt going red in that election. Biden is thought to still be well like among the voters in those areas.

[RedFaction]

I have had this thought on my mind for a while but it seems like the Republican party always throws their former party leaders under the bus like George Bush Sr., George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. It seems to me that everyone on both sides agrees that they were terrible presidential candidates and the Republican party of today regrets ever picking them.

 

So, are the Republicans going to throw Trump under the bus if he does down in defeat in 2020 and later admit he was an awful candidate for president? It has happened with the the rest of them before him so I don't think it's far-fetched to say history will not be at all kind to Trump and will find himself hated by both sides at some point.

 

This doesn't seem to happen for the Democrats who respect all of their former party leaders, even Jimmy Carter who had a troubled presidency and lost re-election.

 

What do you guys think?

[Dalton.T.R]

And with the closing of the "Russia investigation" Trump emerges victorious after two years of complete BS from the left. Is it to anyone's surprise, really? There had never been any evidence to support the claims of Trump colluding with Russia from the very beginning. This was a total waste of the taxpayer's money, and I want that kitten back. The only thing I've learned in the past two years about the Democrats is that they are the biggest freaking hypocritical losers in the Western world.

 

They called Trump a threat to Democracy when he ran for the presidency, yet what do we see them doing?

 

Favoring illegal immigrants over U.S citizens and putting the needs of THEM before US!

 

Trying to do away with the electoral college.

 

Trying to lower the voting age.

 

Constantly coming up with random ass pulls to smear the president.

 

Claiming he is not the president of the U.S and that he didn't win legitimately. 

 

Rioting in the streets and attacking Trump supporters just because they're Trump supporters.

 

Pulling the race card and sexist card on a daily basis even though there has never been any proof of Trump being a racist, but there's plenty to support that he isn't. 

 

Oh, Trump is going to have fun with this when 20/20 rolls around. Still trying to find a single person who had an issue with Trump before he ran against Hillary, yet nobody seems to be able to list a single bad thing about him before he ran for office. SMH

 

Now, let's focus on an actual criminal who really DID work with Russia in the past by selling 20% of our uranium and deleting 30,000 emails. 

[sushi.]

I have had this thought on my mind for a while but it seems like the Republican party always throws their former party leaders under the bus like George Bush Sr., George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. It seems to me that everyone on both sides agrees that they were terrible presidential candidates and the Republican party of today regrets ever picking them.
 
So, are the Republicans going to throw Trump under the bus if he does down in defeat in 2020 and later admit he was an awful candidate for president? It has happened with the the rest of them before him so I don't think it's far-fetched to say history will not be at all kind to Trump and will find himself hated by both sides at some point.
 
This doesn't seem to happen for the Democrats who respect all of their former party leaders, even Jimmy Carter who had a troubled presidency and lost re-election.
 
What do you guys think?

Yes they will cus then theyll have nothing to lose. Ted cruz is sucking up on him now cus he doesnt wanna end up an enemy of the president, who wants that?

Some already are leaving him, even fox news started criticizing him and surprise he called them fake news in return.

[RedFaction]

And with the closing of the "Russia investigation" Trump emerges victorious after two years of complete BS from the left. Is it to anyone's surprise, really? There had never been any evidence to support the claims of Trump colluding with Russia from the very beginning. This was a total waste of the taxpayer's money, and I want that kitten back. The only thing I've learned in the past two years about the Democrats is that they are the biggest freaking hypocritical losers in the Western world.

 

They called Trump a threat to Democracy when he ran for the presidency, yet what do we see them doing?

 

Favoring illegal immigrants over U.S citizens and putting the needs of THEM before US!

 

Trying to do away with the electoral college.

 

Trying to lower the voting age.

 

Constantly coming up with random ass pulls to smear the president.

 

Claiming he is not the president of the U.S and that he didn't win legitimately. 

 

Rioting in the streets and attacking Trump supporters just because they're Trump supporters.

 

Pulling the race card and sexist card on a daily basis even though there has never been any proof of Trump being a racist, but there's plenty to support that he isn't. 

 

Oh, Trump is going to have fun with this when 20/20 rolls around. Still trying to find a single person who had an issue with Trump before he ran against Hillary, yet nobody seems to be able to list a single bad thing about him before he ran for office. SMH

 

Now, let's focus on an actual criminal who really DID work with Russia in the past by selling 20% of our uranium and deleting 30,000 emails. 

Hillary is never going to prison and neither is Trump. They're both too powerful and wealthy for anything to ever happen to them. The sooner we all accept that the better.

 

I would rather focus on how idiotic the right's non-stop culture war is and is a total distraction from real issues facing Americans like health care and education.

[BlueStarSaber]

Hillary is never going to prison and neither is Trump. They're both too powerful and wealthy for anything to ever happen to them. The sooner we all accept that the better.

 

I would rather focus on how idiotic the right's non-stop culture war is and is a total distraction from real issues facing Americans like health care and education.

 

Out of curiosity do you support medicare for all and free tuition fees? 

[RedFaction]

 

Out of curiosity do you support medicare for all and free tuition fees? 

Yes, yes I do and I'm not a socialist (which is workers seizing the means of production), but I am absolutely in favor of the government providing healthcare to all people. As Trump said there are literally people dying in the streets and that is the best way to mitigate that. Also, as it stands with the highly competitive and global job market 4 year tuition free college is the best way to ensure our citizens stay competitive with the rest of the world.

[BlueStarSaber]

Yes, yes I do and I'm not a socialist (which is workers seizing the means of production), but I am absolutely in favor of the government providing healthcare to all people. As Trump said there are literally people dying in the streets and that is the best way to mitigate that. Also, as it stands with the highly competitive and global job market 4 year tuition free college is the best way to ensure our citizens stay competitive with the rest of the world.

 

I don't think Trump will pass medicare for all, given his misinformed tweet about that one time uk citizens were protesting against privatisation of the NHS. Claiming they were protesting for it, when they were protesting against the The Tories and the heath secretary Jeremy Hunt's privatisation and cuts to the NHS.

 

By the for those who have not heard the EU Parliment has passed the controversial article 13 law that will effect memes on the internet everywhere https://www.bbc.co.u...nology-47708144

[RedFaction]

 

I don't think Trump will pass medicare for all, given his misinformed tweet about that one time uk citizens were protesting against privatisation of the NHS. Claiming they were protesting for it, when they were protesting against the The Tories and the heath secretary Jeremy Hunt's privatisation and cuts to the NHS.

 

By the for those who have not heard the EU Parliment has passed the controversial article 13 law that will effect memes on the internet everywhere https://www.bbc.co.u...nology-47708144

He won't. That's one of the reasons I didn't vote for him in 2016 and won't be in 2020.

[BlueStarSaber]

He won't. That's one of the reasons I didn't vote for him in 2016 and won't be in 2020.

 

Who are you routing for n 2020 if I may ask?

[James S Cassidy]

Evil people get away with everything while actual good people get accused of things they do not do.

Isn't politics grand?

Logic:
They tell people not to get angry over people wearing clothing, throw a tantrum and call for blood when someone wears a MAGA hat.


Having an opinion is one thing, but behaving like a brat throwing a temper tantrum is another.

From a store clerk raging over a MAGA hat to Monica Rial and Chris Sabat throwing a fit and threatening a Con-planner in breach of contract because Vic was invited. (Sabat and Rial? They hate you. Sabat sees the term "fan" as an insult and yet people support them. These people say to you "you are garbage and beneath me," but expect you to come to their defense when they get in trouble because "We have to spread love.")

I want to ask, why is the side that preaches love, tolerance, and acceptance....is the same side that resorts to violence, segregation, and threats when they come across people who disagree with them? Can someone explain this to me? I am not talking about opinions, I am talking about behavior.

The side that talks about strength is the same side that gets upset by every little thing to the point that putting milk in coffee is apparently systematic racism.
The side that says "we are all individuals" is the same side that wants to segregate people into groups and identity politics.
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 04 April 2019 - 04:47 AM.

[Ryriena]

I agree that people should read people arguments about their political opinions rather than not read them. Living in ignorance and hiding your head in the sand is never a good idea.

I also would vote Bernie Sanders but I agree with Nate that it is too early in the primary to tell if he would win the nomination. And I agree that he had no obligation to turn everything over to her when they rigged the elections.

I also still think people that are harping about the Russia Collision stuff and how he got away with it are increasingly naive in how power and influence can make it where only the highest ( which is mostly the least respected Native American God) man on the totem pole can be thrown under the bus. It's like Hilarys emails she should've gone to prison for messing with classified material but it would be political suicide if someone went after her or Trump. Its like the Jussie Smollett case contentions can buy you freedom.

[James S Cassidy]

Do some still think Vic Mignogna's case is a game? Is this what "Social Justice" is and what it means to "help victims?"



I am just saying. People need to listen more and actually open their eyes to the real truth and not some narrative they want to push.

Again, I still want to emphasis, I don't care what your political views are, or your political standing or even who you are voting for, but when you start throwing temper tantrums and destroying people's lives because you want to virtue signal and paint yourself like you're this hero fighting for the "victims" when they really aren't then I have no respect for you. People like Monica Rial, Jamie Marchi, and Marzgurl are NOT victims. They are posers wanting attention cause they are not as popular as they want to be or as rich.

Harvey Dent said "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

Fighting for good causes is fine, but when you start being the bully, when it starts to be more of a witch hunt and spreading more hate than is required, and you start to attack innocent people for the most trivial or mundane things...something is wrong.

It's funny how some push this idea that women are strong and powerful and yet the same people try to convince other women that they are victims and they will never be strong or powerful until they accept they are weak and victims. That is some backwards logic right there
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 09 April 2019 - 05:05 PM.

[sushi.]

Don't tolerate intolerance. The MAGA hat is a hateful message. Can you explain to me what "opinions" the guy with the hat has? And make them sound.. not evil? Anyone who says politics is about "opinions" have never felt their lives threatened for just existing. Never heard the cries of children in cages or seen the connection between the NZ shooting and MAGA. You don't support human rights, screw you.

 

US moderates have been pushed to the edge and you already picked a side. When you post constantly about one man's innocence and not the revelation of countless women being abused for years. When you can't give leftist feminists the same slack you give a Trump supporter, you're OK with right-wing extremism. When you compare sexist dress codes with MAGA hats you don't understand the issue.

 

I didn't watch the video and whatever temper tantrum the cashier unleashed is their own problem. Everyone is responsible for their own temperament but this guy wouldn't be welcome in my store either.