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#645864 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Hallox93 on 06 November 2014 - 06:17 PM

I just feel bad for Naruto. The fact Sakura barely said a word to him in these last two chapters.. no resolution, no answer why, no confession and rejection, just absolutely a huge slap in the face to their entire relationship. Kishi better give some closure in the movie, he did tease NS for 15 years, it deserves more closure than nothing at all. 

Naruto loved that girl for 15 years. I hardly think he's totally fine emotionally. We should get to see that side of him. Have Hinata heal it. It's completely Kishi's fault, and he ruined her character, but looking as if we were in the story, where the characters actions are their own, I'm just sad for Naruto. The Sakura Kishi stupidly made canon doesn't deserve Naruto. I was never in favor of NH, and it's a crime that Kishi decided to upend Sakura's development, but looking at the story as if the characters made their own decisions, I'm all aboard for NH now. She cares about him, acknowledges him and hopefully we can see her heal his heart a bit and fulfill him more than Kishi's effed up final version of Sakura ever could. Sasuke doesn't deserve to have the best love story. Naruto deserves that.

Horribly disappointed and find it hard to believe that Kishi was actually this stupid, im sure he'll get a lot of flak for it as the years pass, but I'm still going to watch the movie because I want to see Naruto find that love, hopefully in a stronger way than before. 

Hate Kishi for making me dislike his final cut of Sakura. I don't like the Sakura that still chooses Sasuke. I'd still like her if she did anything but that. Anything but SS. She didnt have to return Naruto's feelings, but being so weak and obsessed over sasuke STILL... just frustrated Kishi went that route with her.

 




#643822 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Hallox93 on 06 November 2014 - 11:26 AM

Not her fault, she like an actress here. It not her you should blame, blame the guy who wrote this mess XD.

 

if we can credit her for anything she's done in the story, we can slam her for this. Story-wise, where all these characters are autonomous, sakura reverted to who she was on day 1. Letting go of ^ that girl, won't be too hard. 

 

It'a only rough because we know who she had been built into and the writer was careless enough to throw,literally and I dont think we're being dramatic, all of her development straight out the window. Didn't even say a word to Naruto. Not a look of concern. Always about Sasuke. 




#640843 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Hallox93 on 05 November 2014 - 11:53 PM

I know that Kishi is entirely to blame guys and Sakura's character was ruined with SS becoming canon, but within the story if any of you would still ship NS (shipped it hard the entire time until now), after she (in the story) made the choice to still latch onto sasuke, then you must not like Naruto very much. The dude is full of love to give and deserves a girl that will return it as well. I liked Sakura's character because she showed growth, perhaps the most of anyone. She went from this annoying, sasuke-obsessed little girl to an amazing, insightful, compassionate kunoichi who can hold her own. She was open-minded enough to allow her perceptions of Naruto to change, and despite this ending and the cries of NH and SS fans, she DID have feelings for Naruto. Multiple characters pointed them out. Which makes this so much worse. She still chose sasuke after contemplating things with Naruto.

That makes Sakura real easy to let go. And Naruto deserves to let go. I hope he still has a conversation with Sakura and tells her his feelings. We all know how it will turn out, but the dude has done so much for this girl, she deserves to know what's she's passing up. 

I think the biggest insult that Kishi can do those of us who were NS fans all along, besides the enormous bull he pulled by making all this canon, is to not give Naruto some closure with Sakura. I think their relationship has to change. Hinata better not let Sakura treat Naruto like a child anymore or hit him. 

I would kind of like it if Naruto slowly backed out of his relationship with Sakura to heal. If he really did love her, no matter how selfless he is, he's going to be hurt by seeing her take her heart elsewhere. I want to see that struggle. I want to see him avoid conversations with her and seeing her until he has time to heal. I'd love the Last if that's part of the beginning of the plot. If Sakura and Naruto have grown distant. There's no way that you can sit there and watch the girl you love be with your best friend and not emotionally bleed all over the place. He's gotta have some space. To see Sakura know how much he's hurting would be great, not because I want Sakura to feel bad (she'll feel bad enough explaining her marriage to Sarada), but because she needs to.

Im all for Hinata now. Yes, she shouldve had way more development and Sakura had less if this was how it was supposed to be. Yes, Sakura should've ended up with Naruto. But character and story wise, Sakura made her bed with the wrong guy, after everything Naruto had done for her (and it's not like she didnt have feelings for him, she was torn and still chose sasuke). 

I hope Kishi at leaves gives us closure, and Naruto gets the time and space to heal. It would be a further slap in the face for Naruto to be (and not just act) 100% alright with Sakura's choice. He can be happy for her in that half-happy-half-sad kinda state, but if he's just like "oh well" Kishi never really cared about their relationship in the first place. 




#637666 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Hallox93 on 05 November 2014 - 03:19 PM

Time to start shipping bolt and sarada hahaha


#634736 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Hallox93 on 05 November 2014 - 04:49 AM

Its sad to say guys but the only was NH happened was because sakura couldnt let go of sasuke.

so to help with my grief im going to take it out on her character hahaha. shes a dumbass for choosing sasuke. lost out on the only guy who fought for her and loved her when there was nothing in it for him. hope she likes knowing she chose poorly. No, I don't want her to be happy. Im okay with NH happening because Naruto himself moved on, but we all know that the only way Naruto gives up on Sakura is her clearly not giving up on sasuke. 

 

I want her to wake up someday realizing that mistake. And being too late to do anything about it. 

 

This is my sadness speaking don't take too much of it to heart. But since we're all about 90% sure that we'll see this grade-A nonsensical kitten come to frution come thursday, I can say pretty plainly that as far as the story goes, I hate sakura for not opening her eyes. I hate that Kishi threw away so much development and for sure won't answer why. He doesn't have time. 

Such crap. Why the parallels for nothing. Why the forehead comment, sakura's "red thread of fate" for nothing. why? damnit! 




#633630 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Hallox93 on 05 November 2014 - 02:34 AM

guys. unless these are really good fakes, we're done. Kishi is a horrible writer and we will see no reason why all the minakushi parallels and RtN romance and years of development came to nothing. This is so frustrating hahaha




#633584 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Hallox93 on 05 November 2014 - 02:29 AM

and now for the eternity of remembering Naruto, the once great series ruined with an asspull romance at the end of the story. I have a deep seated dislike of sakura now. really woman. still sasuke. wow.




#633028 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Hallox93 on 05 November 2014 - 12:38 AM

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1. Awesome kakashi insight into her feelings

 

2. Why does Naruto more awesome at 17 than at 20




#632875 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Hallox93 on 04 November 2014 - 11:22 PM

Kishimoto has to give us at least five pages to compensate for chapter 693 and this horrible movie.

 

I disagree. All we need to see is Sakura's mental flip to Naruto. Could be as easy as a bench scene conversation. Or Naruto showing some of his feelings for her. The Last may not completely be about Hinata, I wonder if it's going to be about Sakura and Naruto as well, like Naruto is struggling to fully confess (why he's at the market, getting sakura a gift) and he runs into hinata. through the adventure with hinata, he begins to understand her feelings for him, and though he doesn't reciprocate, end of the movie he thanks her for giving him the courage and runs off to find sakura, encouraged by Hinata. 

That's what i'd like to see. all I need this week is a moment that shows where Sakura's head is, shows her leaning towards naruto. Or that she realizes some feelings for naruto. all we need is that.




#632865 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Hallox93 on 04 November 2014 - 11:16 PM

How could NS be canon at the end of the manga, if they're so young? if the last movie is indeed canon and focus' on romance?

 

if it happens, 699 will hint, 700 (set ten years later) will show fulfilled, movie will fill in blanks. Holding out hope that the movie shows NS come to fruition and NH closure - as friends. 




#632708 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Hallox93 on 04 November 2014 - 10:16 PM

To have Kishi completely blow over the fact that HE wrote characters in just to bring to attention Sakura's hidden feelings for Naruto, put it in a databook, and create Minakushi parallels and maintain them through a movie he wrote, and up the current time in the manga..... just to have sakura friendzone naruto for F****** sasuke, if he does that to Sakura's character I swear... as a character Sakura still loving sasuke is literary death. 




#631820 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Hallox93 on 04 November 2014 - 05:14 PM

 

This I agree with.  Rather have no one win than the wish fulfillment fantasy be the official couple.  

 

It's just...Hinata is so boring as a character.  What does she do as a person?  I can't think of anything.

 

Kishi said it won't be open ended. Naruto is with Sakura or Hinata at the end of this. There's only one option that is powerful and meaningful, the other rushed, dysfunctional and would waste years of development.
 

Sakura and Naruto, no matter how hard they try, cannot have someone mean more to them in their lives. They might try, but they will always be closer to each other than any other characters. They have gone through so much together, supported one another, watched each other grow; laugh cried and fought with each other. SS and NH would be disgusting because the wrong people ended up together. I feel like if SS and NH or one of them happened, Sakura would eventually realize what they had and be unhappy where she is.

Come on Kishi, you've been shipping them since day 1. Don't throw away such a human, hilarious, and powerful love story. 

 




#631353 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Hallox93 on 04 November 2014 - 02:01 PM

Me, too. 

 

he already said it wont be. 




#631331 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Hallox93 on 04 November 2014 - 01:52 PM

 

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Also, seriously, you guys have seen the movie spoilers. So why else would Sasuke poke Sakura on the forehead.
what does that mean??
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if you had been following the conversation on NF, it was her way of putting down "SS head poke romance rumors". Shes saying that we know from the trailers SS didnt happen, so if they think Sasuke poked her forehead what other reason could it be other than just an apology and for forgiveness. SHE WAS NOT CONFIRMING A SASUKE POKES SAKURAS FOREHEAD MOMENT. 




#631326 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Hallox93 on 04 November 2014 - 01:50 PM

Sasuke better apologize... seriously it can't just be a simple sorry. :hm:

Is there any word on any NS hints so far? Does anyone think she's leaving them out on purpose? It's the final two chapters and there's nothing shipping related.. All of this isn't really such a sh*tstorm honestly..

 

its tricky. I want to see him apologize too. Even if it's really kind and thoughtful. Mostly because he should, but also because I want to know that if NS happens, Sakura didnt just settle. I want to see her make that decision, and know that it wasn't just because Sasuke left. I want to see the switch flip in her mind. Naruto deserves to be chosen, not settled for, and if Sakura doesn't willfully make that choice then I will, even if NS then still happens, admittedly dislike her. 

I want her to choose Naruto. Not have that choice made for her by Sasuke's absence or encouragement.