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#23001 Bail o' Lies

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:06 AM

Comparing the sakura we see in the latest episode to the Sakura we loved and supported: 

 

 

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And the Sakura we see in the latest episode

 

 

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You know Sakura actually looked a hundred time better even in the manga for this scene. But this isn't surprising. SP hates Sakura and they hate SS. Did anyone really think they would put that much effort in the big SS scene?


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:18 AM

It breaks my heart to see her like that, especially when she's around Sasuke.

 

I think Kishimoto intentionally did that so the readers would know that Sasuke isn't for Sakura.



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:23 AM

Comparing the sakura we see in the latest episode to the Sakura we loved and supported: 

 

 

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And the Sakura we see in the latest episode

 

 

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My God! What did they done to her. I'm going to have nightmares.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 03:35 PM

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Like Lady chatte's said, a woman is a reflections of her man

 

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She always show negative expression or try to cover it with fake smile whenever Sasuke enter her picture. But when it's about Naruto she can be herself. Sakura is a flower, a flower need a sun to survive, Sasuke represent Moon and dakrness, while Naruto represent Sun and light. With darkness the flower will wither and die, while with sun the flower will grow and bloom. She can always break her limit and be strong female whenever she fights for Naruto, but with Sasuke she become a weak 12 years old stupid fan girl.

 

When she talk with Naruto

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And when she talk with Sasuke

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She can't fight back or defend herself when Sasuke insult her, that is just the same as her character is dead around him.

I really hate the way the manga ended. I hated Sasuke and his treatment of her. And most of all I hate the message that it sent that if was ok for Sakura (or any girl) to accept that kind of treatment. The statement here is that love makes you submissive. Love somehow makes Sasuke's behavior ok. Love means that Sakura can't stand her ground or demand better. That she must accept Sasuke's putdown that 'there's nothing she can do.' He's thrown away all of her change, ability and skill, all of her growth. And she is wounded. This isn't love - it's emotional abuse. 

 

Naruto is the lightening rod here, seeing how wrong it is and calling Sasuke on it (even if he's sidestepping holding Sasuke accountable and just saying it's about teamwork). But the lesson brought by the hero — that you can stand up for yourself and don't have to take that kind of crap — is lost. It's lost in this scene and it's lost in the story. The hero does not prevail. Sasuke does not change, and Sakura does not find inner strength and turn away.

 

I don't even look back at the ending or those pages, the ending or what's come after, because it's so screwed up. 



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:10 PM

And how do NH  fans feel? 

NH fan:Duh who cares how Sasuke treats Sakura? That's not as bad as how she treats Naruto.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:33 PM

I really hate the way the manga ended. I hated Sasuke and his treatment of her. And most of all I hate the message that it sent that if was ok for Sakura (or any girl) to accept that kind of treatment. The statement here is that love makes you submissive. Love somehow makes Sasuke's behavior ok. Love means that Sakura can't stand her ground or demand better. That she must accept Sasuke's putdown that 'there's nothing she can do.' He's thrown away all of her change, ability and skill, all of her growth. And she is wounded. This isn't love - it's emotional abuse. 

 

Naruto is the lightening rod here, seeing how wrong it is and calling Sasuke on it (even if he's sidestepping holding Sasuke accountable and just saying it's about teamwork). But the lesson brought by the hero — that you can stand up for yourself and don't have to take that kind of crap — is lost. It's lost in this scene and it's lost in the story. The hero does not prevail. Sasuke does not change, and Sakura does not find inner strength and turn away.

 

I don't even look back at the ending or those pages, the ending or what's come after, because it's so screwed up. 

Then you have The Last with their twisted message that, at least when it comes to Sakura (yet no one else apparently), once you (believe you) fall in love with someone, you're simply never allowed to move on from that person. A girl that falls in love is seen as nothing more than say a succubus in Rosario + Vampire, where once they find their "Destined One", they either must have that person or they'll die alone, never ever falling in love with anyone else.


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Posted 15 October 2016 - 04:28 PM

thats a old tumblr post from when the ending first came out i remember reading it 2 years ago

Yeah, I knew a short bit after I saw the post of DeathGodMack's link. Thanks anyways :D



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 05:34 PM

Then you have The Last with their twisted message that, at least when it comes to Sakura (yet no one else apparently), once you (believe you) fall in love with someone, you're simply never allowed to move on from that person. A girl that falls in love is seen as nothing more than say a succubus in Rosario + Vampire, where once they find their "Destined One", they either must have that person or they'll die alone, never ever falling in love with anyone else.

It's so kittened up.



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 06:29 PM

It's actually amazing how so many people will call Narusaku abusive (which it's not), yet fail to realize how abusive SasuSaku is.
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Posted 17 October 2016 - 06:57 PM

It's actually amazing how so many people will call Narusaku abusive (which it's not), yet fail to realize how abusive SasuSaku is.

Unfortunately, they're ignorant imbeciles who think "abuse" only constitutes one physically assaulting the other, but never consider emotional abuse, which is what SS obviously is. They think, "Oh, but Sakura's not objecting to anything, so everything must be great!" while ignoring countless cases of abuse victims. And whenever there's a moment of Sakura hitting Naruto, they blatantly ignore the context of the action - comedy relief - just so they can make such "abuse" claims in order to delegitimize NS, and yet I'm more than certain a majority of those same people absolutely love girls who are "just as bad, if not worse than Sakura" like Louise in Zero no Tsukaima (which really is much closer to actual abuse), Taiga in Toradora!, Kagome in Inuyasha, and countless other tsundere girls who have (physically) "abused" the male lead.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 07:04 PM

I don't like to say things about NH, but I couldn't help to post this when I saw it.

 

It sums up NH. Though, it's more like sums up Hinata's for Naruto.

 

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This meme is so funny :P

Edited by T XD, 17 October 2016 - 07:07 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:59 PM

Unfortunately, they're ignorant imbeciles who think "abuse" only constitutes one physically assaulting the other, but never consider emotional abuse, which is what SS obviously is. They think, "Oh, but Sakura's not objecting to anything, so everything must be great!" while ignoring countless cases of abuse victims. And whenever there's a moment of Sakura hitting Naruto, they blatantly ignore the context of the action - comedy relief - just so they can make such "abuse" claims in order to delegitimize NS, and yet I'm more than certain a majority of those same people absolutely love girls who are "just as bad, if not worse than Sakura" like Louise in Zero no Tsukaima (which really is much closer to actual abuse), Taiga in Toradora!, Kagome in Inuyasha, and countless other tsundere girls who have (physically) "abused" the male lead.

Even if they wanted to ignore that. How do they explain why Sasuke spent over 12 years away from his family. To the point she never met him, and only knew what he looked like through a photo.



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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:16 PM

Even if they wanted to ignore that. How do they explain why Sasuke spent over 12 years away from his family. To the point she never met him, and only knew what he looked like through a photo.

 

Through a photo that contained (though hidden) all of Team Taka. They didn't even have one as a family.

 

He was there in spirit, I guess? It's amazing that the whole cast doesn't give on kitten about this. Well, objectively speaking anyway. We know from prior chapters that not caring about stuff like that is right up their ally.



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Posted 18 October 2016 - 12:08 AM

Even if they wanted to ignore that. How do they explain why Sasuke spent over 12 years away from his family. To the point she never met him, and only knew what he looked like through a photo.

That's gonna be an extremely long filler for them to milk this series even moar.


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 06:17 AM

Its really AKAWARD to look back at the anti ns filler episodes.

 



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Posted 18 October 2016 - 07:12 AM

 

I don't like to say things about NH, but I couldn't help to post this when I saw it.

 

It sums up NH. Though, it's more like sums up Hinata's for Naruto.

 

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This meme is so funny :P

 

 

Funny thing as the NHers say the same thing about NS  :headscratch:


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 07:51 AM

 

Funny thing as the NHers say the same thing about NS  :headscratch:

NS has the same amount of development as NH ?... Are they reading the same manga or what ?... That's a first :twitch:

 

There's a large difference like the distance of valley and mountains between the two :fu:


Edited by T XD, 18 October 2016 - 07:57 AM.


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 08:11 AM

 

Funny thing as the NHers say the same thing about NS  :headscratch:

 

Yeah. But remember Naruto knows KB before chapter one.  :lmao:


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 08:15 AM

NS has the same amount of development as NH ?... Are they reading the same manga or what ?... That's a first :twitch:

 

There's a large difference like the distance of valley and mountains between the two :fu:

 

For many years I've been telling them that. And in the end, we really are reading a different manga thanks to TL. SP is going to prove that by going into the Part 1 fillers. I really want them to retcon the first bench scene to be Sasuke instead of Naruto making those comments about her forehead to Sakura  :th_yeah:


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 08:46 AM

 

For many years I've been telling them that. And in the end, we really are reading a different manga thanks to TL. SP is going to prove that by going into the Part 1 fillers. I really want them to retcon the first bench scene to be Sasuke instead of Naruto making those comments about her forehead to Sakura  :th_yeah: 

They're like saying negative things to themselves since Sakura is the most close representation of human life :fu:


Edited by T XD, 18 October 2016 - 08:44 PM.






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