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[Tokura Misaki]

Found this on Facebook

I don't really have much information about the Anti-Anime/Manga Piracy Operation but I'd like to share these photos which contains list of websites that are affected from the said operation.
 

Source 

[luffyq1]

Where one shall fall, another shall rise. It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.

 

[Tokura Misaki]

http://www.meti.go.j...14/0730_01.html

[rocci]

Well, we can still read the spoiler, and then buy the manga or borrow it from friend.

[James S Cassidy]

The sad part is, the more you try to fight piracy, the more people will pirate.

[Tokura Misaki]

I don't have money to buy manga and to watch anime. 

 

Seriously, this will make anime and manga fans decrease.

Edited by sakutonaru, 31 July 2014 - 02:31 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The sad part is, the more you try to fight piracy, the more people will pirate.

Even studies shows the opposite, with piracy people are more willingly to spend money on.

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The fact is that Japan distribution fo animes and manga are poor and doesnt not reach globally, anime/manga only reached the state now globally because of the internet, it exploded back on 2000s, and the publishers did nothing to reach those potential customers, piracy will still going on no matter how hard they try to fight it they're just losing money.

[Gravenimage]

Oh great another SOPA has arrived. I'm sick of the government trying to own the freaking internet. The internet belongs to no one its FREE for everyone to use. Its part of freedom of speech why can't they take a hint? No matter how hard they try to fight piracy they will never win because EVERYONE uses piracy. Seriously I am sure members of Congress has at least downloaded music, or movies or even porn the hipocisy. That's all for my rant K needed to get it off my chest.

[CloudMountainJuror]

As of right now, not counting my Naruto volumes, I own 24 volumes of manga. I own all of those only because I read the series first online.

 

By hitting these sites, they will only lose money.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 31 July 2014 - 05:48 PM.

[Lid]

Oh great another SOPA has arrived. I'm sick of the government trying to own the freaking internet. The internet belongs to no one its FREE for everyone to use. Its part of freedom of speech why can't they take a hint? 

Having copyrighted material and distributing it without permission is not freedom of speech. Yes the internet itself is free for everyone to use. And people should be able to have access to websites. People should also be able to speak out through use of the internet. That doesn't mean that you can just distribute material and not face any consequences.

 

Sometimes people like to bring up fair use with copyright, but they are mistaken. The way Ebert and Siskel used scenes from movies for their reviews, that was fair use of content for criticism. Uploading something in its entirety doesn't fall in those parameters.

 

That being said, though, even if there is a crackdown on these manga sites, will it make it impossible to find chapters of Naruto or One Piece? 

No, not really. Look back to 2008/2009. Everyone thought the sky was falling when One Manga went down, and look where we are at now. People are still reading plenty of manga. 

 

Like others have said, the more they try to fight piracy, the more people will find other ways to pirate.

[questdrivencollie]

I know multiple sites that are licensed to stream anime, so anime isn't a problem.

It'll be harder to read manga, though, since I must admit I get most of that from the illegal places on the net.

 

 

Don't kill me, but I kinda understand why? I try to follow copyright laws in general because I want to support the source...otherwise the source won't make money. Which is why I don't watch movies online (except legal streaming), and why I no longer download music from YouTube. (I do watch some anime and read nearly all my manga on illegal sites. Honestly that's sometimes the only way to get them.)

 

 

That said, without the internet distribution, it is true that many of us wouldn't have discovered manga in the first place. Though I do read manga on illegal sites, I also buy manga when I get the chance. (Like at cons or sometimes online.) It being on the internet gives me a chance to sample it and see if it's something worth spending money on.

 

Anyway, like others have pointed out, people will without a doubt find ways to get around this.

Edited by questdrivencollie, 31 July 2014 - 06:26 PM.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

I know multiple sites that are licensed to stream anime, so anime isn't a problem.

It'll be harder to read manga, though, since I must admit I get most of that from the illegal places on the net.

 

 

Don't kill me, but I kinda understand why? I try to follow copyright laws in general because I want to support the source...otherwise the source won't make money. Which is why I don't watch movies online (except legal streaming), and why I no longer download music from YouTube. (I do watch some anime and read nearly all my manga on illegal sites.)

 

 

That said, without the internet distribution, it is true that many of us wouldn't have discovered manga in the first place. Though I do read manga on illegal sites, I also buy manga when I get the chance. (Like at cons or sometimes online.) It being on the internet gives me a chance to sample it and see if it's something worth spending money on.

 

Anyway, like others have pointed out, people will without a doubt find ways to get around this.

It's pretty understandable and not really a bad thing to understand why.

 

People may be buying stuff after they pirate it as a "demo" of sorts, but there are still others who get their stuff solely via illegal downloading or scanlations, and, I don't mean to turn it into a "businesses are greedy!" thing, but they still lose money with every person pirating and not buying.  Plus, some people may not take it well that things they've made, such as music, art, and games, are being illegally distributed despite the hard work they've put into it. That and/or they're not getting money back to continue making stuff they want to keep doing.

[sushi.]

The sad part is, the more you try to fight piracy, the more people will pirate.

Yeah, arresting the piratebay guys didn't stop people from pirating. Netflix did, at least a little bit.

[questdrivencollie]

It's pretty understandable and not really a bad thing to understand why.

 

People may be buying stuff after they pirate it as a "demo" of sorts, but there are still others who get their stuff solely via illegal downloading or scanlations, and, I don't mean to turn it into a "businesses are greedy!" thing, but they still lose money with every person pirating and not buying.  Plus, some people may not take it well that things they've made, such as music, art, and games, are being illegally distributed despite the hard work they've put into it. That and/or they're not getting money back to continue making stuff they want to keep doing.

Yeah.

 

I hope that they try to consider ways to make manga more legally available, rather than simply cracking down on pirating. Maybe more sites can get licensed to stream manga. Crunchyroll has some, but doesn't seem to be as much as their anime selection. Streaming is simply more cost effective and relevant (and would have a larger audience) than buying a bunch of DVDs and volumes

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Having copyrighted material and distributing it without permission is not freedom of speech. Yes the internet itself is free for everyone to use. And people should be able to have access to websites. People should also be able to speak out through use of the internet. That doesn't mean that you can just distribute material and not face any consequences.

Sorry it is because of the consequences of it.
THe current method is innefective and they instead of making other titles more accessible and reaching the customer base they will have more money, but that wont prevent piracy.

Instead of doing this they come with stuff like SOPA and other forms to stop piracy.
RDM is an example of this, it doenst stop people from pirating their softwares but becomes a pain in the ass for the people who buy those apps.
 

People may be buying stuff after they pirate it as a "demo" of sorts, but there are still others who get their stuff solely via illegal downloading or scanlations, and, I don't mean to turn it into a "businesses are greedy!" thing, but they still lose money with every person pirating and not buying.  Plus, some people may not take it well that things they've made, such as music, art, and games, are being illegally distributed despite the hard work they've put into it. That and/or they're not getting money back to continue making stuff they want to keep doing.

I think that there's no excuse for pirating either, but people simply pirate because they dont want to spend money anyway.
People think that only buying a manga is a way to support the author.
I can easily point out Sword Art Online, it's not a good anime but with piracy it achieved a huge popularity to a point that Yen Press is now publishing it's LN worldwide despite at a slow rate.

The same thing happens with mods and other stuff, sometimes "free stuff" brings way more money than paid stuff.
So on and so forth.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 July 2014 - 06:58 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

From what information I've been able to gather, there are 15 manga/anime companies involved with this campaign and it's not the sites themselves that will be taken down or anything, but they will lose about 500 manga and 80 anime series. If that information is correct, it won't be like all the anime/manga on those sites will be unavailable, but a lot of the popular ones will be targeted. Including Naruto.

[sushi.]

Well naruto is ending soon anyway!

 

*cries about one piece*

Edited by sushi., 31 July 2014 - 10:46 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Well naruto is ending soon anyway!

 

*cries about one piece*

 

Yeah, I'm not too torn up about losing Naruto, but I was kind hoping to just see how it ends. Just cause I've stuck it out this long. Oh well.

[Lid]

I think this issue really highlights the problem with media that's printed, though. It's still such a struggle from the printed format to the online format in terms of getting revenue. Strides have been made forward with tablets, allowing people to buy books and the like online, but it's still not there yet.

 

I think other forms of entertainment have it a little bit easier. For example, despite pirates putting movies online, there are still plenty of people who will go to the box office to see the film on the big screen.

 

I think manga, and other print media will eventually get to the point where they are just available through purchasing sites on tablets. But this is still in the earlier phases.

[Tokura Misaki]

Most of the anime in Crunchyroll are not availabe in my country.  Crunchyroll should lift the country restriction....

 

The manga is the real problem here. 

Edited by sakutonaru, 01 August 2014 - 12:52 AM.