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#1 itsmesakura

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 09:50 AM

A lot of NaruHina fans said tht Naruto is like Kushina Hinata is like Minato and therefore NH= Minakushi.. But I really disagree with tht, bcoz they are technically comparing an individual, and not as a relationship... Naruto is Naruto himself... Said he's like Kushina, then it's okay.. But they are comparing two individuals, not comparing how the individuals will be in a relationship... So, in this debate, I'll clear things up

 

1. Kushina is like Naruto, Minato is like Hinata, NH = MK.. And NS relationship will be so loud anyway... Naruto and Sakura's hot-headed

 

Not so fast... Naruto maybe hot-headed, and as well as Sakura, but that doesn't mean the relationship will be chaotic... NH fans are referring to an individual in this too... And, surprisingly, Naruto's calm and he never react when Sakura explodes... Look at these interaction

 

 

 

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As we can see here, Naruto doesn't fight back when Sakura scolded or got angry at him, and it was always been that way... (I think so.. I forgot the chapter where Sakura punch Naruto badly when he said Sakura was his gf, when Konohamaru ask him.. It was when they are still a genin.. I am sorry if I got some mistakes on this!!!!)

 

And so, thts how Naruto and Sakura's relationship is.. Like MinaKushi.. Minato is not someone who can trigger Kushina, but maybe when the red hot habanero got angry at something he'll always calm her down... And I'd bet Naruto will do the same to Sakura... We got the prove in the chapter 311 interaction..

 

And then, if we are matching Hinata with Naruto, it will be like MinaMina... Hinata is not a hot-headed girl, and therefore Naruto will not try to calm her down, and he'll be calm around her, because his companion is a calm girl... It will be nothing like MinaKushi

 

2. Kushina loves Naruto, and so as Hinata.. Therefore Hinata is similar to Kushina

 

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(credits for Sandee115) that pretty much shows Sakura's affection to Naruto.. She had always stare at him in a very special way.. Her eyes are nearly shut, and her smile's soft, and she was blushing cutely... Those three are the major sign of a girl liking a guy...And there are a lot of prove from the databooks as well (I am sorry I am, too lazy to even post it here... Try and search for Sakura Haruno databook 3 and in Chatte's post about Sakura on tumblr)

 

 

 

Well, I guess that's all... That's the only argument I can remember from NH fans... Hehehe.. Thanks for reading...

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:17 AM

To clearly see the parallels, I  think you need to see first NS becoming canon.

Cause the great things that showed Minato and Kushina together were when they were... together!

 

When that moment will come, the opposite fandom will finally realise/accept the parallels between them.


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Posted 17 February 2014 - 10:58 PM

I personally think a lot of NaruHina fans are finding any little thing they can to rule NaruSaku out, even though they aren't canon like MinaKushi but they do have a lot of similarities personality and relationship wise. NaruHina just can't be compared to MinaKushi in any logical way without making Hinata=Minato and Naruto=Kushina and his mother said she wanted him to find a woman like her and I think she meant strong willed but caring, hot headed but smart, fierce but tender and someone who will him for who he is as a whole not just his ninja ways. Just my opinion. :yes:


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Posted 17 February 2014 - 10:59 PM

There's no true guarantee that NaruSaku equals MinaKushi ... they have a lot of similarities background wise, but that doesn't mean they're entirely the same and that's what I like about it. MK and NS are parallels IMO, but they're not identical and that's what's cool about MK. They're different sometimes, but alike enough to point it out and enjoy. :smile:

 

MinaKushi & NaruSaku have similar beginnings ... the hot-tempered girl looked down on the easygoing guy and never thought they would accomplish their dreams. They just didn't like them. Blatant NaruSaku/MinaKushi parallel right there. It goes further by Kishi implying that Minato always seemed to have feelings for Kushina (shown when he saved her and complimented her hair) and then he was eventually acknowledged by the girl he liked. Minato also complimented the one thing the Kushina didn't like about her appearance and was teased for. Naruto did the same thing in Part 1, even though he was transformed into Sasuke. Kushina also fell in love with Minato and it looks like there's a good chance Sakura might as well with Naruto, but that part's not an indefinite parallel until the manga confirms it without room for interpretation.

 

As for interactions ... well, it depends. Minato appears to be the lenient one in the relationship since Kushina even admitted he had never won an argument against her which makes it a lot like NS to me. If/when Sakura and Naruto get together, Sakura would be the dominant one over Naruto just like she is in their friendship. Naruto's like Minato in the sense that doesn't like arguing with the girl he loves unless it's important, but they're not entire doormats and would still expression their opinion if need be (Hinata is not like that with Naruto except in 615, but that's it). It also looks like 664 proves Minato's like Naruto in the fact that they fake smiles and grins when the girl they love is unhappy because even if they're worried themselves, they wouldn't want her to be. 664 was pretty obvious with NS/MK parallel I think.

 

For Kushina's behavior with Minato, that's one's a little more debatable. Kushina has a fiery temper just like Sakura does, but does she take it out on Minato like she does with Naruto? It's certainly possible she does since Minato had a flashback of Kushina looking angry and shaking her fist, but we don't know if it was at him or someone else.  I feel like it was at Minato since I don't see her making exceptions to Minato just because she loves him, but that's just my opinion. It wouldn't be for the same reason as Sakura does for Naruto though. Sakura hits him when he's being stupid, rude, or dense. I feel like Kushina could hit Minato or yell at him similarly because she wouldn't like him being a know-it-all (not that he'd ever do it on purpose lol). :lol:


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 05:31 AM

I have a theory on this whole Minakushi = Naruhina idea that the NH fans keep going on about....But I would need a Bleach fan to help me out. 

 

I think those NH fans who started out watching bleach and the pairings with the two main cast ( Ichigo and Rukia right) now, I could be wrong, I'm getting this idea from pictures from what I assume to be their parents looking over them...( It's fanart) But it does look like the sort of male=the female parent, female=the male parent thing that NH fans seem to think works with Naruhina.. 

 

 

I'm I explaining this well?  I have a friend who really like's Ichigo and Rukia ( which I agree with) but doesn't like Narusaku at all, and is unable to see many of the traits that they share...anyway, from what little I have seen...and I'm not sure, like I said, it's just fanart, and I have watched so little of the anime...I really need to catch up...anyway, i'm carrying on a bit...sorry.. :sweatdrop:  so...Is there any justifiable logic to this theory? I'm sure I'm REALLY easy to disprove... :unsure:  I'm just trying to figure out the the whole NH=MK thing..I just don't see it at all... :headscratch:


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 05:41 AM

I have a theory on this whole Minakushi = Naruhina idea that the NH fans keep going on about....But I would need a Bleach fan to help me out. 

 

I think those NH fans who started out watching bleach and the pairings with the two main cast ( Ichigo and Rukia right) now, I could be wrong, I'm getting this idea from pictures from what I assume to be their parents looking over them...( It's fanart) But it does look like the sort of male=the female parent, female=the male parent thing that NH fans seem to think works with Naruhina.. 

 

 

I'm I explaining this well?  I have a friend who really like's Ichigo and Rukia ( which I agree with) but doesn't like Narusaku at all, and is unable to see many of the traits that they share...anyway, from what little I have seen...and I'm not sure, like I said, it's just fanart, and I have watched so little of the anime...I really need to catch up...anyway, i'm carrying on a bit...sorry.. :sweatdrop:  so...Is there any justifiable logic to this theory? I'm sure I'm REALLY easy to disprove... :unsure:  I'm just trying to figure out the the whole NH=MK thing..I just don't see it at all... :headscratch:

I don't think so. Not every Naruto fans are Bleach fans as well.

 

I think are doing this NaruHina/MinaKushi parallel just to deny the obvious (NaruSaku/MinaKushi) 

And by obvious I mean this kind of things


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:17 AM

I personally think a lot of NaruHina fans are finding any little thing they can to rule NaruSaku out, even though they aren't canon like MinaKushi but they do have a lot of similarities personality and relationship wise. NaruHina just can't be compared to MinaKushi in any logical way without making Hinata=Minato and Naruto=Kushina and his mother said she wanted him to find a woman like her and I think she meant strong willed but caring, hot headed but smart, fierce but tender and someone who will him for who he is as a whole not just his ninja ways. Just my opinion. :yes:

 

Oh yes, I agree with you dear.... Many NH fans ignore Kushina's actual words, and instead they focus on the individuals, bcoz that's where Hinata got the similarity to one of Naruto's parents, Minato, and they began thinking it that way...

 

NH fans know tht deep down Sakura IS Kushina, bt they didn't want to admit it, and they then aim their bow towards Minato, bcoz they found the Konoha's Yellow Flash similar to Hinata... Bt they didn't realize as well tht Hinata is only similar to Minato's poiite and calm nature, but on boldness they are way much more different.. I mean, if you replace Minato with Hinata in the scene where Kushina and Minato was about to die, Hinata wouldn't be saying things like, "because we are shinobi" and stuff... If we replace Kushina with Hinata, there's an unlikely chance the Indigo-haired girl will shout at Naruto, if Naruto replace Minato and said "because we are shinobi"

 

bt, I think by claiming Minato similar to Hinata, they by accident or not accident had claimed that Hinata wasn't Kushina at all...

 

There's no true guarantee that NaruSaku equals MinaKushi ... they have a lot of similarities background wise, but that doesn't mean they're entirely the same and that's what I like about it. MK and NS are parallels IMO, but they're not identical and that's what's cool about MK. They're different sometimes, but alike enough to point it out and enjoy. :smile:

 

MinaKushi & NaruSaku have similar beginnings ... the hot-tempered girl looked down on the easygoing guy and never thought they would accomplish their dreams. They just didn't like them. Blatant NaruSaku/MinaKushi parallel right there. It goes further by Kishi implying that Minato always seemed to have feelings for Kushina (shown when he saved her and complimented her hair) and then he was eventually acknowledged by the girl he liked. Minato also complimented the one thing the Kushina didn't like about her appearance and was teased for. Naruto did the same thing in Part 1, even though he was transformed into Sasuke. Kushina also fell in love with Minato and it looks like there's a good chance Sakura might as well with Naruto, but that part's not an indefinite parallel until the manga confirms it without room for interpretation.

 

As for interactions ... well, it depends. Minato appears to be the lenient one in the relationship since Kushina even admitted he had never won an argument against her which makes it a lot like NS to me. If/when Sakura and Naruto get together, Sakura would be the dominant one over Naruto just like she is in their friendship. Naruto's like Minato in the sense that doesn't like arguing with the girl he loves unless it's important, but they're not entire doormats and would still expression their opinion if need be (Hinata is not like that with Naruto except in 615, but that's it). It also looks like 664 proves Minato's like Naruto in the fact that they fake smiles and grins when the girl they love is unhappy because even if they're worried themselves, they wouldn't want her to be. 664 was pretty obvious with NS/MK parallel I think.

 

For Kushina's behavior with Minato, that's one's a little more debatable. Kushina has a fiery temper just like Sakura does, but does she take it out on Minato like she does with Naruto? It's certainly possible she does since Minato had a flashback of Kushina looking angry and shaking her fist, but we don't know if it was at him or someone else.  I feel like it was at Minato since I don't see her making exceptions to Minato just because she loves him, but that's just my opinion. It wouldn't be for the same reason as Sakura does for Naruto though. Sakura hits him when he's being stupid, rude, or dense. I feel like Kushina could hit Minato or yell at him similarly because she wouldn't like him being a know-it-all (not that he'd ever do it on purpose lol). :lol:

 

 

Maybe when Kushina's outraged she'll hit Minato, but she's not pissed at him, maybe bcoz of other factors (pervert men, Kushina got angry, Minato try to calm her down, Kushina outrage scolded Minato).... But, there are less likely chance Kushina hit Minato because he's a calm guy, and when Kushina scolded him I know he'll zip his mouth...And also, Minato isn't perverted and innocent like Naruto, so we rarely see Kushina hitting the blonde...

 

And, maybe you misunderstood me, bt I am not trying to point MK very very similar to NS... I only wanted to compare NS and MK on terms of relationship to MK and NH... I hope this clear things up


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:33 AM

I have a theory on this whole Minakushi = Naruhina idea that the NH fans keep going on about....But I would need a Bleach fan to help me out. 

 

I think those NH fans who started out watching bleach and the pairings with the two main cast ( Ichigo and Rukia right) now, I could be wrong, I'm getting this idea from pictures from what I assume to be their parents looking over them...( It's fanart) But it does look like the sort of male=the female parent, female=the male parent thing that NH fans seem to think works with Naruhina.. 

 

 

I'm I explaining this well?  I have a friend who really like's Ichigo and Rukia ( which I agree with) but doesn't like Narusaku at all, and is unable to see many of the traits that they share...anyway, from what little I have seen...and I'm not sure, like I said, it's just fanart, and I have watched so little of the anime...I really need to catch up...anyway, i'm carrying on a bit...sorry.. :sweatdrop:  so...Is there any justifiable logic to this theory? I'm sure I'm REALLY easy to disprove... :unsure:  I'm just trying to figure out the the whole NH=MK thing..I just don't see it at all... :headscratch:

 

I can help you dear... Maybe your theory could be right as well, maybe not... People have their own thoughts, opinions, and ideas... So, your theory about this could be true

 

It's just my opinion, bt, mayb this theory could help you figure out about NH= MK

 

NH fans read the words, "Find someone like me" and their first thought was Sakura, but they try hard to deny it, because it was a massive destruction to their fandom

 

Some made a debate about Kushina and Hinata similar in loving Naruto, and Sakura don't... And then mayb some NS fans clear things up and they all ran and decided to believe on the fact that Hinata is very similar to Minato, and Kushina is similar to Naruto (and some because of Minato's words... "She's like Kushina")

 

They started making logical sense over their theory... Hinata and Naruto will form a hot-headed and calm relationship, like Minato and Kushina... And they make a conclusion tht since Sakura is hot-headed and Naruto is hot-headed as well, their relationship would clash and form a destruction

 

The whole NH=Mk theory is form from that

 

This is just my thoughts and opinions... But, from this we can see that

 

1. NaruHina is a MinaMina relationship, because Hinata can't trigger Naruto to explode... And Naruto will remain calm... If only there are annoying stuff happening Naruto will get mad, and thts the only point NH = MK.. But Naruto won't go extreme and scolded Hinata (giving her the impact of his anger), as for Kushina, if she's very very very very pissed off, nothing can calm her down, and if Minato tries to, maybe Kushina will told him to shut up

 

2. The huge difference is that Hinata is a girl, Minato's a guy... And on MK, the girl rules... On NH, the guy rules..

 

Thts only my opinion and thoughts and theories...Idk whether I am right, nor wrong tbh XD


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:48 AM

To clearly see the parallels, I  think you need to see first NS becoming canon.

Cause the great things that showed Minato and Kushina together were when they were... together!

 

When that moment will come, the opposite fandom will finally realise/accept the parallels between them.

 

Yes... You are right!! Hopefully it will be a canon!! I really wanted Kishi-San/sensei to made at least a few panels  of what happen after the war, Naruto and Sakura getting married, become parents, have a child, and there are interactions...


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:16 PM

I don't understand why anyone would believe the whole, "Kushina loves Naruto and so does Hinata, therefore Hinata = Kushina"...thing.
Loving someone is not a personality trait. :ermm: Iruka loves Naruto. So is Hinata Iruka as well? Also that's kind of a poor argument. Kushina loves Naruto in the maternal way. Not the romantic way. She's his -mother-. So are they saying Hinata loves Naruto maternally? That, in and of itself tosses NaruHina out the window for whomever believes that.

 

Hinata really fails in all Kushina departments, personality-wise. There's a saying that talks about how boys end up with or try to find girls who are like their mothers. Really paves the way to NaruSaku if you ask me. Since it's canonly confirmed that Sakura is like Kushina. :wink:

 

An older argument I remember from long ago is how NH wouldn't do well, behavior-wise. Let's face it. Naruto goes overboard sometimes. His mouth starts running and he says things and does things that gets him in trouble. Sakura has always been the one to keep him in line. And it takes a -strong- hand to hold Naruto back. Something I can't see Hinata ever being able to provide. She'd just stand in the background muttering, "U-um um Naruto-kun you shouldn't-" while Naruto would be too busy doing what he's doing to listen to her. Let's face it. Especially in comedic moments, Hinata has no backbone unless she draws inspiration from Naruto. I don't think she would have the backbone to actually stand up to Naruto. No, not her idol.

So it's unlikely anyone would be calming anyone down in that relationship.

True, both Sakura and Naruto can be hot-headed. But they have both calmed (or at least tried to) each other down when one gets a little too hot-headed. They both know they're hot-headed people and they know how to handle each other in that regard. That's part of what makes them a good match. It takes a hot-head to tame a hot-head, sometimes. Just like it takes one to know one.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:59 PM

I have a theory on this whole Minakushi = Naruhina idea that the NH fans keep going on about....But I would need a Bleach fan to help me out. 

 

I think those NH fans who started out watching bleach and the pairings with the two main cast ( Ichigo and Rukia right) now, I could be wrong, I'm getting this idea from pictures from what I assume to be their parents looking over them...( It's fanart) But it does look like the sort of male=the female parent, female=the male parent thing that NH fans seem to think works with Naruhina.. 

 

 

I'm I explaining this well?  I have a friend who really like's Ichigo and Rukia ( which I agree with) but doesn't like Narusaku at all, and is unable to see many of the traits that they share...anyway, from what little I have seen...and I'm not sure, like I said, it's just fanart, and I have watched so little of the anime...I really need to catch up...anyway, i'm carrying on a bit...sorry.. :sweatdrop:  so...Is there any justifiable logic to this theory? I'm sure I'm REALLY easy to disprove... :unsure:  I'm just trying to figure out the the whole NH=MK thing..I just don't see it at all... :headscratch:

 

Your theory doesn't pan out well, last year Ichigo's mother Misaki finally made an appearance Isshin's flashback and in both appearance and personality she was much closer to Orihime than Rukia. also it has been shown that when he gets serious Isshin acts very much like Ichigo.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 02:21 AM

I was actually thinking about that "NaruSaku can't work because it'd be like two Kushinas" argument a while back. Moon_Girl's post made me remember it. I was trying to make sense of this "you need a calm one and a hot-headed one" to have a Naruto pairing and it ended up confusing me as I tried to apply it to NaruSaku. :wacko:

 

Technically, the dominant one in both relationships is the girl. And yes, Naruto and Sakura are both short-tempered. But it's not like there's no median between them. They don't always lose control. Sakura's not as hyper as Naruto. She's more grounded to politeness and manners so naturally she became the one managing him when he's overdoing it. The weird thing is though she doesn't just stick to that role; she and Naruto swap on occasion. There has been certain instances where he is the one trying to calm her down and correct her, but in a more passive and easygoing way. That's where I see his connection to Minato in the MK comparison, but I don't see how Hinata fits into this.

 

She's not Minato or Kushina. Minato is confident and forceful while Hinata is not. Don't even need to explain why she isn't like Kushina. She's too meek and shy to reprimand another, specifically with Naruto who'll just run her right over when he's having one of his outbursts. He wouldn't listen because he needs a strong woman to match his intensity and forcefulness. Sakura and Naruto have that common ground with each other which is why they work so well together. They're equals in that regard while with Hinata it's an uneven scale.

 

I see traits of both Minato's and Kushina's behavior with each other in Naruto and Sakura. Sakura's temper and dominance with her blonde is more like Kushina, but her focus on etiquette and politeness is more like Minato. Naruto's hyper attitude and impatience is also Kushina, but then that's tampered by his generally good-natured personality that's more Minato. That's why he acts so laid-back and gentle with Sakura over her occasional attitude with himself or others.

 

This whole "Two Kushinas" argument doesn't work for me ... not when I see elements of MinaKushi interaction in both Sakura and Naruto. We know Sakura = Kushina and Naruto = Minato from a storyline perspective, but saying they're both two Kushinas as an anti-argument seems incorrect IMO. I see Minato/Kushina traits in both of their characters. You can't really call that a "KushiKushi" or "MinaMina" couple. They still balance each other out, even if it's not black-and-white.


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Posted 23 February 2014 - 11:44 PM

 

Oh yes, I agree with you dear.... Many NH fans ignore Kushina's actual words, and instead they focus on the individuals, bcoz that's where Hinata got the similarity to one of Naruto's parents, Minato, and they began thinking it that way...

 

NH fans know tht deep down Sakura IS Kushina, bt they didn't want to admit it, and they then aim their bow towards Minato, bcoz they found the Konoha's Yellow Flash similar to Hinata... Bt they didn't realize as well tht Hinata is only similar to Minato's poiite and calm nature, but on boldness they are way much more different.. I mean, if you replace Minato with Hinata in the scene where Kushina and Minato was about to die, Hinata wouldn't be saying things like, "because we are shinobi" and stuff... If we replace Kushina with Hinata, there's an unlikely chance the Indigo-haired girl will shout at Naruto, if Naruto replace Minato and said "because we are shinobi"

 

bt, I think by claiming Minato similar to Hinata, they by accident or not accident had claimed that Hinata wasn't Kushina at all...

 

 

 

Maybe when Kushina's outraged she'll hit Minato, but she's not pissed at him, maybe bcoz of other factors (pervert men, Kushina got angry, Minato try to calm her down, Kushina outrage scolded Minato).... But, there are less likely chance Kushina hit Minato because he's a calm guy, and when Kushina scolded him I know he'll zip his mouth...And also, Minato isn't perverted and innocent like Naruto, so we rarely see Kushina hitting the blonde...

 

And, maybe you misunderstood me, bt I am not trying to point MK very very similar to NS... I only wanted to compare NS and MK on terms of relationship to MK and NH... I hope this clear things up

 

Yeah they were pushing the fact that Kushina was similar to Hinata until Minato said Sakura reminded him of Kushina. THEN, the rabid Nh fans said that comment was bull s**t. So you see, evidence is only whats conveniences them. -_-   


Edited by Phantom_999, 23 February 2014 - 11:46 PM.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 11:47 PM

^Not to mention, we believe that Sakura also loves Naruto.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 03:36 AM

I just don't understand how NH fans compare Hinata to Minato?







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