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[narusakuotp]

Hey nsotp is this a good troll video? I know its that guy who made bleach but it has little bit of kishi in it.

 

YES! I can't stop laughing after watching that! Though the flaw is that Kishi looks like a henchman troll for Kubo. He is clearly far ahead of Kubo now.

I also love the fact that you came to me for trolling related opinions/advice. Wise choice.

Edited by narusakuotp, 22 November 2014 - 03:58 AM.

[NS4Life]

Kishi never gave us a reason why she loved him. We know she had a crush on him, but how does that go to love?

We know why naruto loves/loved sakura. He in away courts her the entire manga.

It's like they threw sakura to sasuke.

[NS4Life]

What Kishi meant to say is that if Sakura has a change of heart(fickle) and moves on to Naruto, she's a terrible woman.
I don't know where people get that Hinata idea. TakL, Hamorebi, and all other native Japanese I know say that the first version is correct.

I can't see how didn't see SS was bs. There was no reason for her to love sasuke in the first place.

[trang95]

YES! I can't stop laughing after watching that! Though the flaw is that Kishi looks like a henchman troll for Kubo. He is clearly far ahead of Kubo now.

I also love the fact that you came to me for trolling related opinions/advice. Wise choice.

OMG, you did it again. Can't stop laughing in front of my screen when I see your sig      ! Can't wait to see what sig you will do when the Last is out! Do you already have any ideas?

[narusakuotp]

OMG, you did it again. Can't stop laughing in front of my screen when I see your sig      ! Can't wait to see what sig you will do when the Last is out! Do you already have any ideas?

Yes, the change of my set was necessary after that disgusting sexist interview Kishi gave. Idk what I will do when 'The Last' is out. I am definitely not watching it. I'll just listen to what everyone else here says. I'm sure I can trust someone here to give me the truth. From that, I will be able to figure out what to do with my set.

[Kamina-Yoshi]

Edited by Kamina-Yoshi, 22 November 2014 - 04:26 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Kishi saying "It would make Sakura a terrible woman to move on from Sasuke" translates in-between the lines to:

 

"Sasuke was so depressed and had such a hard, confusing life. Everything he did, he did because he loved his family too much. He's a victim. He shouldn't be blamed or spat on for anything and Sakura moving on from him would be heartless! I know he never liked Sakura before, but it's 'cause of his past, y'know! His past! She should fix him 'cause he deserves love and he's our precious snowflake."

 

Yeah, okay. I'm 99% sure this is what Kishi thinks and I still feel like vomiting.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 22 November 2014 - 06:30 AM.

[redrose3443]

I wonder if there are anymore ways Kishi will kitten on his manga and integrity. I'm sure he'll think of something.

 

 

 

@ Rabbit Where is your sig from, because I swear I read a manga that had that character as the lead, but I can't remember it's name.

[Aizen-Sama]

Hinata always had Kiba and Shino lol.
Naruto was originally just her "role model"... Why couldn't they keep it that way?
Didn't Hinata smile when Sakura hugged Naruto?
How would she have been heartbroken? If she truly loved Naruto she would've stepped aside and been happy for him finally getting his love. How did her admiration evolve into such an intense all-consuming infatuation that we just COULDN'T shatter?
If Kishimoto could make Sakura still love Sasuke after his murder attempts and cruelty he could've made Hinata move on from Naruto. He just didn't want to.
For the money and fans of course. So disgusting...

[Don'tMindME]

What the hell?!

Does this mean that you have to stick to your first love even though his abusive to you? Does it actually make women look like a terrible person if they found and pursue a new love that makes them happier than their first love?

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

[ramenanmitsu]

Kishi saying "It would make Sakura a terrible woman to move on from Sasuke" translates in-between the lines to:
 
"Sasuke was so depressed and had such a hard, confusing life. Everything he did, he did because he loved his family too much. He's a victim. He shouldn't be blamed or spat on for anything and Sakura moving on from him would be heartless! I know he never liked Sakura before, but it's 'cause of his past, y'know! His past! She should fix him 'cause he deserves love and he's our precious snowflake."
 
Yeah, okay. I 99% sure this is what Kishi thinks and I still feel like vomiting.

I agree with your interpretation. In Kishi's mind Sasuke is a pure soul who got manipulated by events and tragedy he had no control over. And now that he's become good again and wants to make up for his wrongdoings, he thinks it will be too cruel of Sakura to suddenly reject him and stop supporting. Kishi wants Sakura to be Sasuke's "Rin".

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

I totally saw Sakura stabbing Naruto's heart with a knife and trying to murder him several times. Iruka was an abusive as hell teacher glad that he didn't learn chidori or Naruto's brain would have spluttered from too much electricity when Iruka bonked his head for painting the Hokage mountains. Oh and Kushina! She should totally get arrested for child abuse!

Oh and routine? Sorry, I don't watch the bs Studio Pierrot creates so I have no idea!

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 22 November 2014 - 05:36 AM.

[Aizen-Sama]

I agree with your interpretation. In Kishi's mind Sasuke is a pure soul who got manipulated by events and tragedy he had no control over. And now that he's become good again and wants to make up for his wrongdoings, he thinks it will be too cruel of Sakura to suddenly reject him and stop supporting. Kishi wants Sakura to be Sasuke's "Rin".

kittening weird how Kishi paralleled the Rin/Kakashi chidori stab to Sasuke/Sakura. Didn't Rin end up with Obito in the afterlife?
Guess the Rin/Obito comparison doesn't count for Naruto/Sakura.

[Nefertieh]

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

This may be shocking to you, but the majority of domestic abuse throughout history have been committed on men against women. So no, a show with a man slapping his girlfriend silly isn't funny, it's the sad reality we live in. As a consequence, a the shonen stereotype with a the hero being the most powerful person in the world but is terrified of his wife is an ironic spin, hence why it is seen as funny. The purpose has absolutely nothing to do with undermining men who face abuse by their girlfriends or boyfriends, you've honestly just missed the punch line.

This tsundere "abuse" you speak of is only about as violent as Disney violence. One scene, she's attacking him, the next scene, he doesn't even have a bruise on his head. Compare that to how Omoi and his pals bet up Naruto and you'll see what I mean.

Edited by Nefertieh, 22 November 2014 - 06:56 AM.

[Ether]

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

Please don't bring terrible SS defenses to this place. NS "abuse" is comic relief, while SS is the real deal.

[Rabbit]

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

I'm sorry but have you ever heard of comic relief? The thing is Sakura punching Naruto is different from Sasuke stabbing Sakura multiple times.

[Don'tMindME]

I'm sorry but have you ever heard of comic relief? The thing is Sakura punching Naruto is different from Sasuke stabbing Sakura multiple times.

so you are saying female on male violence is funny huh?

 

Besides Sasuke was trying to kill everyone he once cared about. They didn't have a relationship at that point. Abuse implies he was taking advantage of a relationship between the two, but no such thing existed at that point. Sasuke was trying to kill everyone who he used to care about. You make it sound like he was coming home to his girlfriend and beating her because he was drunk. Not to mention Sakura went out there to kill him in the first place.

[Konohakitten]

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

 

Everything Sakura has ever done towards Naruto is put in there for laughs, but everything Sasuke did was no laughing matter. We arent hypocrites we just understand the difference between comedic relief and being a douche bag.

[Zodd]

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

 

Yes, women can abuse men.

 

Sakura routinely hit Naruto,... but it was conveyed as comedy.  He may appear beat up for a few scenes, but next panels he is all recovered and they act like nothing happened.  

 

A man beating on a woman is at times used as comedy as well, ( Think of Family Guy, or American Dad), but it makes it clear it's comedy.  Comedy gets dark, that's fine also!  But there are limits, and even these shows know this and are very careful and make sure it apparent that it's comedy.

 

However Sasuke's relationship with Sakura was not comedic at all, not an ounce of it.  That is what is so unsettling about it.

 

We can continue to split hairs and also state in general Sasuke's relationship with most people in the manga was VERY unhealthy.  Odd how this character never received retribution.  But when you allow popularity polls to write your stories this is what you get.  

 

The fact we were given several times where he made attempts on Sakura's life is very disturbing.  I have no qualms with a writer writing his or her story in such a way, and that is fine.  However, when what we see as a good character (Sakura) still falling for some one that has done all this to her...it starts to get worrisome.  Generally abusive kitten in stories get what is coming to them, in one form or another, or at least it is settled in some way. But this was not done whatsoever. 

 

Now, I believe SasukexSakura could absolutely positively worked if done correctly.  It would be an easier pill to swallow.  Unfortunately for us, it was rushed and done in a very kitten manner. A simple sorry does not erase all of what Sakura has been through for Sasuke.  Naruto at least got to throw fists with Sasuke.  Sakura however was reduced to her former self, and even questioned why he is even apologizing.  It is appalling that Sakura, a girl that risked her life and nearly died by his hands on several occasions, deems his apology as unnecessary.  You think she will at least take a verbal apology for the physical and mental abuse she had to endure, but she could not even take that.

 

Attempt to justify all you want about the abuse Naruto received from Sakura, but you and me both know that said "abuse" is nothing compared to Sakura's relationship with Sasuke. 

[narusakuotp]

Guys, just ignore the troll. This is an obvious NH/SS fan just looking for trouble and reactions. Just report them and move on.

[六道仙人]

ramen, i cannot still see the link... But I know that rumours... I heard a few years ago that rumor but honestly I have n't taken it much in account. On 2ch there were many rumors of how Kishimoto and his wife met. One of those was that Kishimoto met her wife during a karaoke.

Of course if his wife was really a fan of his, the story would look like also to Naruto and Hinata because she is a fan of Naruto after all.

 

But I am not convinced about. Oda said that Kishimoto's wife looks a lot like Sakura (I assume she was referring to her beahavior, also because tell me if there's a jap woman with pink hairs and green eyes in you country... LOL), the same Kishimoto said that Kushina is a little based on his wife because she is scare when gets angry (and certainly she doesn't seem the identikit of Hinata :/)

Kishimoto, in vol 53, wrote that he asked to his wife for a help how to write a story of love and a mother. It still doesn't seem the case of Hinata imho.