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#2581 DrK

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Posted Yesterday, 04:38 AM

That scene sounds pretty OOC for Naruto.



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Posted Yesterday, 05:13 AM

What? You don't remember when one of the animators had Naruto and Hinata have sex, and put it up on...twitter? Granted, I think they were fired for that.

 

Beyond that you're right.

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BOLD : Seriously ?? . How far can these rabid NH fan goes i wonder ?? .... sending death threat to kishi , making fake petition to bad naruto in the west under disguise as NS fans , and then this ..??? , what more did they want from this rotten cash cow ?


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Posted Yesterday, 07:37 AM

 

Not even to make money. All Hinatatheists just wanted Naruto to marry her and "get in her pants" so they can imagine the anime personifications of their own self esteem issues "make love" (off panel may I add) :zaru:

Well I would argue that Shonen Jump didn't care about pairings, but rather only if it made money.

SP: "We are going to make Naruto and Hinata get together."
SJ: "Okay....we don't realy care. Would it make us money?"
SP: "Mayb-.....Yes, it would make us tons of money."
SJ: "Then do it."

So while you would be right about that SP and the Hinata wankers just wanted Hinata to give Naruto sexual healing...SJ probably only care about money.

I mean, let us not forget that SP did this:
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And the illustrator of Food Wars did this:
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They drew the "heroines of the other anime" and look who is there? Hint: It is not Hinata Hyuga

So everyone KNEW NS was supposed to be the canon pairing. Everyone knew and expected NS to be the end couple, but because of Studio Pierot and Kishimoto blatently biased editors....Hinata got top billing for something she wasn't even supposed to be apart of.
 

This is how we know it is a retcon. Everyone knew and they forced it to not happen. It is as simple as that, but pro-enders want to make believe in the stories of "red herrings" and the idea that NH was planned from the beginning. Kishimoto couldn't even plan 1 month in advance in his story, how are we to believe he planned NH 15 years in advance?

 

More importantly Kushina is too tied with Sakura for them to use while Hinata is the heroine. Also in case anyone has forgotten; the battle of the scarves in the last.

 

Kishimoto thought he was giving the fans what they wanted as a final send off. Turns out he was lied to and is now stuck with them trying to make him fix their mess while he is too done to care.

This is true. If they were to showcase Minato and Kushina...it would only put more doubt in the idea that NS should have been canon in the first place. Especially if Minato was fleshed out to be more like Naruto.

Heck, I hate it when NH pro-enders say that Naruto is like Kushina and Hinata is like Minato when Minato HIMSELF said that Naruto was like him and Sakura was like Kushina. Red herring my ass.


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Posted Yesterday, 09:58 AM

Sometimes I feel as if I like Hinata, simply because she is just a character I usually like better than the Tsundere - Type. But then I remember that she didn't even feel bad to confess to Naruto and get together with him infront of Sakura, and I feel like everyone knew how special the relationship between Naruto and Sakura was.

Was there even a moment in which she thought: Maybe Sakura likes Naruto? Maybe I should not interfere? I know Sakura encouraged her to approach Naruto, but even Sai knew that this was a sensitive topic.

 

I always think about the Last and how Naruto and Sakura were together in many scenes and how I adored these scenes more than any NH scene in this movie. Nh just felt so...I mean, they kind of "know" each other for just so much time and they already kiss? Already marry? IMO, what they had going on was not love, but lust. Prove me wrong, but I don't think this is very romantical.


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Posted Yesterday, 11:04 AM

She never even once acknowledges that Sakura might like Naruto or that Naruto does like Sakura. She comes off as very egocentric. She doesn't think highly of herself but she doesn't see anything but herself and how the world is from her view, much like a child. There was a study done with 3(I think) year olds where they were asked to list off what they could see from a given perspective of scenery, and they listed off what they could see. They were then asked to list off what someone standing in an entirely different spot could see, and they gave the exact same answer. Children of that age simply can't put themselves in another person's shoes like that, they only understand the world as they see it. Hinata is the same way.

 

To be married to someone whose mind works like that would be a miserable lot in life.


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Posted Yesterday, 12:43 PM

Well I would argue that Shonen Jump didn't care about pairings, but rather only if it made money.

SP: "We are going to make Naruto and Hinata get together."
SJ: "Okay....we don't realy care. Would it make us money?"
SP: "Mayb-.....Yes, it would make us tons of money."
SJ: "Then do it."

So while you would be right about that SP and the Hinata wankers just wanted Hinata to give Naruto sexual healing...SJ probably only care about money.

I mean, let us not forget that SP did this:
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And the illustrator of Food Wars did this:
2vnhtom.jpg

They drew the "heroines of the other anime" and look who is there? Hint: It is not Hinata Hyuga

So everyone KNEW NS was supposed to be the canon pairing. Everyone knew and expected NS to be the end couple, but because of Studio Pierot and Kishimoto blatently biased editors....Hinata got top billing for something she wasn't even supposed to be apart of.
 

This is how we know it is a retcon. Everyone knew and they forced it to not happen. It is as simple as that, but pro-enders want to make believe in the stories of "red herrings" and the idea that NH was planned from the beginning. Kishimoto couldn't even plan 1 month in advance in his story, how are we to believe he planned NH 15 years in advance?

 

This is true. If they were to showcase Minato and Kushina...it would only put more doubt in the idea that NS should have been canon in the first place. Especially if Minato was fleshed out to be more like Naruto.

Heck, I hate it when NH pro-enders say that Naruto is like Kushina and Hinata is like Minato when Minato HIMSELF said that Naruto was like him and Sakura was like Kushina. Red herring my ass.

I still believe that up until the last chapter, it was going to be NS. 



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Posted Yesterday, 02:47 PM

This whole hinata being a jonin stuff is apparently from this novel.

 

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Now I don't know what the name is and the translations of this novel are pretty unclear. Some say hinata is the clan head, others say she isnt. What is confirmed is that she easily beat hanabi and that she has trained boruto and himawari. All in all, this book tries to make hinata and sasuke seem like better parents then they actually are.


Edited by hisaberpie, Yesterday, 02:48 PM.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:16 PM

Thank you for finding it out...I can't read Japanese but it like what I said it looks like one of those Boruto light novels that are the novelization of their filler. So after the chunin exam what happened in this book will probably happen.

 

As for them having her beat Hanabi. Remember ever since her introduction she has been weaker then her sister to the point her father was force to replace her as the heir of the clan with Hanabi. With how the people at SP are (killing Neji as punishment for touching Hinata's breast) they are doing this for quite a few reason. One to show how much Hinata has grown. Two to show she is superior to her sister; they already had her eyes torn out as punishment in the last that were then gracefully given back by hinata. Three try to desperately wash away what happened during the Bolt movie. Generally try to convince people that Hinata is strong, and try to impress people.


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Posted Yesterday, 06:40 PM

Well I would argue that Shonen Jump didn't care about pairings, but rather only if it made money.

SP: "We are going to make Naruto and Hinata get together."
SJ: "Okay....we don't realy care. Would it make us money?"
SP: "Mayb-.....Yes, it would make us tons of money."
SJ: "Then do it."

So while you would be right about that SP and the Hinata wankers just wanted Hinata to give Naruto sexual healing...SJ probably only care about money.

I mean, let us not forget that SP did this:
5lnm1x.png

And the illustrator of Food Wars did this:
2vnhtom.jpg

They drew the "heroines of the other anime" and look who is there? Hint: It is not Hinata Hyuga

So everyone KNEW NS was supposed to be the canon pairing. Everyone knew and expected NS to be the end couple, but because of Studio Pierot and Kishimoto blatently biased editors....Hinata got top billing for something she wasn't even supposed to be apart of.
 
This is how we know it is a retcon. Everyone knew and they forced it to not happen. It is as simple as that, but pro-enders want to make believe in the stories of "red herrings" and the idea that NH was planned from the beginning. Kishimoto couldn't even plan 1 month in advance in his story, how are we to believe he planned NH 15 years in advance?
 
This is true. If they were to showcase Minato and Kushina...it would only put more doubt in the idea that NS should have been canon in the first place. Especially if Minato was fleshed out to be more like Naruto.

Heck, I hate it when NH pro-enders say that Naruto is like Kushina and Hinata is like Minato when Minato HIMSELF said that Naruto was like him and Sakura was like Kushina. Red herring my ass.

 
Oh yes I know. I was just remembering an older point you were making in that Making NH canon because either company "wanted money" was contradictory to how they acted and planned this thing out, and that the data says otherwise. something along those lines :smile:

Yup, it caused a huge uproar for the brief time it was on Twitter. And NH fans were torn between being outraged over the sanctified image of NaruHina being "sullied' by a hentai scene...to ridiculing us because it was taken down. I kitten you not.


HY-PO-CRI-SY!!!! werent't all those wankers BEGGING Naruto and Hinata to have sex because they wanted them to get married. What they expected them to be some sort of "chastity couple" after explicitly being show that Boruto was born in the first place? Not to mention, how many of them actually salivate towards NH  hentai doujins. :down:


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Posted Yesterday, 10:40 PM

See, thats the thing. They make hinata out to be such a heroine. Like suddenly out of nowhere shes a jonin, she could beat hanabi, she trains her children, shes got hamuras chakra etc etc. But she does absloutely nothing in the anime and manga. She ignores her children and leaves their problems to be solved by other people.

Like the village is under attack and she leaves her daughter with sakura or ino. Her son discovers he has eye powers. Nope, "go ask your grandpa, son". And what is so great about inheriting hamuras chakra anyways? How is hamuras chakra different from any regular chakra? Cuz in the last when she had to destroy the tenseigan she still needed narutos help to do it! In the end everything special about hinata is just a bluff.

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Posted Yesterday, 10:45 PM

This whole hinata being a jonin stuff is apparently from this novel.

 

tumblr_p888uw7Pt31t8stveo1_400.jpg

 

Now I don't know what the name is and the translations of this novel are pretty unclear. Some say hinata is the clan head, others say she isnt. What is confirmed is that she easily beat hanabi and that she has trained boruto and himawari. All in all, this book tries to make hinata and sasuke seem like better parents then they actually are.

 

I know what this is.

 

Kishi laid out the original Boruto movie, correct? Some of the things he wrote don't jell with what SP want the series to be. Boruto, lots of potential but never trained and thus has no moveset? Thrown away, he's super skilled and he has been taught Naruto and the Hyuuga's signature moves. Hinata, needs to be saved, never graduated past Chunin (which means more than just her power level. She was never seen as responsible enough to handle high-level missions or train Genin) and loses off-screen in Boruto? Nah, now she's Jonin like the rest (while Naruto never even made Chunin before becoming Hokage. How does that work?), trained her kids rather that continuously abandoning them and now can kick her sister's butt. She da best! She's worthy of being called the series heroine!

 

SP didn't want what Kishi had given them, made their own changes and are now desperately trying to make it all work out. But it's not. The story and characters are complete messes, with things being presented and retconned when they realize the deeper implications of what they're creating.


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Posted Yesterday, 10:54 PM

 

See, thats the thing. They make hinata out to be such a heroine. Like suddenly out of nowhere shes a jonin, she could beat hanabi, she trains her children, shes got hamuras chakra etc etc. But she does absloutely nothing in the anime and manga. She ignores her children and leaves their problems to be solved by other people.

Like the village is under attack and she leaves her daughter with sakura or ino. Her son discovers he has eye powers. Nope, "go ask your grandpa, son". And what is so great about inheriting hamuras chakra anyways? How is hamuras chakra different from any regular chakra? Cuz in the last when she had to destroy the tenseigan she still needed narutos help to do it! In the end everything special about hinata is just a bluff.

I know what this is.

 

Kishi laid out the original Boruto movie, correct? Some of the things he wrote don't jell with what SP want the series to be. Boruto, lots of potential but never trained and thus has no moveset? Thrown away, he's super skilled and he has been taught Naruto and the Hyuuga's signature moves. Hinata, needs to be saved, never graduated past Chunin (which means more than just her power level. She was never seen as responsible enough to handle high-level missions or train Genin) and loses off-screen in Boruto? Nah, now she's Jonin like the rest (while Naruto never even made Chunin before becoming Hokage. How does that work?), trained her kids rather that continuously abandoning them and now can kick her sister's butt. She da best! She's worthy of being called the series heroine!

 

SP didn't want what Kishi had given them, made their own changes and are now desperately trying to make it all work out. But it's not. The story and characters are complete messes, with things being presented and retconned when they realize the deeper implications of what they're creating.

Pretty much. Rules post helps answer yours hisa. Why were they showing Hinata as weak? Because that how kishi wrote her.  Now they no longer are bound by what Kishi has done after the chunin exam. They will be unbound. And because the manga pacing is what it is. They will be the one really writing the story. So their goddess can truly be what they always wanted her to be.

 

We are about to get the last on steroids folks. Thank god I no longer do those summaries.



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Pretty much. Rules post helps answer yours hisa. Why were they showing Hinata as weak? Because that how kishi wrote her.  Now they no longer are bound by what Kishi has done after the chunin exam. They will be unbound. And because the manga pacing is what it is. They will be the one really writing the story. So their goddess can truly be what they always wanted her to be.

 

We are about to get the last on steroids folks. Thank god I no longer do those summaries.

 

Remember how because of The Last the JPN fanbase called Hinata a horrible person/sister? If this really is their plan to salvage their goddess's reputation, it's going to backfire spectacularly. They've already assassinated the characters of the leads, diminished the importance of other popular characters and killed on of the most popular ones, all for Hinata. If they go through with this, the backlash against her will only increase, to the point I'd expect some behind the scenes details to begin leaking over this decision.

 

Hinata is controversial. I mean, shipping her with Naruto became a major point of contention within the NA fanbase and drove away a lot of moderate fans.


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