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[Exact]

The dreams were typical. 

Hinata's dream was obvious. 

Ino's dream was kinda expected (lol).

Everyone else's dream also makes sense.

 

My favorite was Gaara's. How sweet and humbling. 

 

 

I hope They can figure something out. 

 

Sasuke is a douche bag sweet and kind person... 

[LadyGT]

It's funny how Kishimoto made a new design for Hanabi and he didn't use it. Lol.

[咲耶姫]

Guys Guys Guys, don't you see what's happening here? There is no ship teasing or ship sinking here, it is just their deepest most cherished desires. Gaara wants his family and to be Naruto's friend, for instance, nothing wrong with that. Hinata's desire is just to be with Naruto, and as shallow as that is that is her dream. This has nothing to do with what is impossible or not, it is just that , a character's dreams. Is it wrong to have dreams or desires? We are just seeing what they are. So more talking about shipping or sinking said ship, yeah? the message here is that if you have dreams you must work to make them come true not just realize in a fantasy. That was what Naruto was saying about it being a lie. At least in my opinion

 

I highly disagree with you. You're right, it's about their deepest desire. But what you say makes no sense. So tenten has to work hard in order for Gai and Lee to be cool? Ino has to work hard for Sasuke and Sai to fight for her? Shino has to work hard to discover a new insect? Gaara has to work hard for his parents to come back alive? Shikamaru has to work hard to not being married to anyone?

It's just their deepedt wishes, and thoses wishes can't come true. 

Naruto's words meant that if they live in an illusion, it's just a big lie, not real happiness. That's all. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 28 May 2014 - 11:59 AM.

[K9ofChaos]

I wonder if that thing Black Zetsu is doing to Madara is forcing him to become the vessel for Kaguya's consciousness? That would be pretty cool. Plus she would make for a great final boss character (besides Sasuke, of course) to go up against. We could get an interesting perspective of the past and maybe the potential for world building. We might get a confirmation of whether Naruto's power from the Sage gives him complete control of all the basic and advanced chakra elemental natures or not. Sasuke's is obviously eye-based, what with the Rinnegan and all that jazz.

 

Speaking of which, not a big fan of Naruto saying that Sasuke is better than him though. Sure, Sasuke might have a better idea of how to counter the Rinnegan since he has one himself, but that doesn't make him better than everyone else. Naruto beat Pain without any Kekkei Genkai, so he's more than capable of handling himself against this threat. Just goes to show how much Sasuke doesn't care about teamwork at all and thinks he's all they need to win this war.

[TouKen4Life3g]

This chapter was a bit of a surprise. I didn't expect Kishi to even show the character's dreams, but he pulled it off well with only one or a few panels. Nothing dragged out at all.  I already expect the anime to use the dreams for fillers though when they animate it.
 
Wow, Sasuke. Way to be a royal kitten to your teammates. While Sasuke was just stating the truth that they couldn't do anything in this situation, he didn't have to be so arrogant about it. Sasuke's always been brutally honest tho so I can't say I'm surprised. And Sakura withdrawing into herself pisses me off so much. I just for once want her to stand up to Sasuke instead of letting him walk all over her. She really shouldn't let him get to her that easily, he's not worth it! And people still ship this?!  Good on Naruto though for calling Sasuke out on his BS.
 
I really liked most of the dreams. A lot of them were funny even if they're impossible, though I do hope Choji really does find a woman like that someday.  Gaara's and Tsunade's dreams though!  They were so cute and so sad. I liked how Tsunade had all the people she loved alive and together in her dream. Gaara's friends with Naruto as kids though and having a great family was adorable and heart-warming. Now that's what I call a true friend for Naruto.
 
Shikamaru's, Kiba's, Tenten's, Lee's, and Shino's I just lol'ed.  The irony of Shikamaru's dream was so rich because it's looking like it's hinting he will end up with Temari no matter what said in his "perfect dream."  ShikaTema looks promising now. Ino's attraction to Sasuke in her dream still kind of bothered me though. It was funny, but then I was conflicted because I actually believed she was over Sasuke for a second. Oh well.
 
And of course ... Hinata's dream-world was being with Naruto. Not a surprise there. The only thing I could think about when I saw that was that Hinata really is looking to pursue a romantic relationship with Naruto instead of just getting his acknowledgment. I already believed that before, but now we have proof so there's no more controversy. Since Naruto already acknowledged her platonically way back when he saved her from Zetsu, I was wondering why she was still going on and on about "being by Naruto's side forever" and "walking with him".
 
But Hinata need a serious dose of reality. If this means Hinata was intending on pursuing a relationship with Naruto in all those moments, then she needs to wake up and realize Naruto's already in love with Sakura and is not changing his mind. This is just getting ridiculous now. I doubt Hinata even knows Naruto's feelings for Sakura, otherwise she wouldn't have looked so happy during the NS hug. I'd expect more of a reaction similar to Naruto when Sakura hugged Sasuke in the hospital.
 
I remember seeing someone yesterday say Hinata was just a shyer version of Part 1 Sakura. After this chapter, I'm 100% convinced that person is absolutely correct.
 
While NH in the dream-world could mean NH will never happen romantically in the real world, I'm not sure that's the right argument against it yet.  NH won't be canon anyway, but that argument has holes in it. There's still a possibility Team 7 could fall under the tsukuyomi. Naruto would dream of being Hokage but does that mean he's never going to be Hokage? Of course not. I'll have to wait and see before I feel comfortable using that argument against NH. However, if T7 remains untouched, then most definitely NH is dead as of this chapter. I already thought it was dead in 631, but this just solidifies it. 
 
Kaguya showing up as Black Zetsu was a twist. Applause to anyone who predicted that. I'm really excited for the next chapter though. This one was highly enjoyable and funny if you ignore Sasuke in all his a**hole glory.
 
All the Neji cameos made me happy.

Kaguya/Black Zetsu has no intention of putting Team 7 in the dreamworld. She will kill them if any mean necessary. Plus, she has to do that jutsu again to put them under the illusion, so why bother. Just dispose of them. So yeah, this dreams argument is valid.

[Sinedd]

678: My Will
Really if I understand something at all...
Everyone are living their dream (didn't know Kiba wanted to become Hokage)
What happened in this chapter was really unexpected. How can Black Zetsu betray his master, Madara? How can this be possible? ?????
Instead of this, Kishimoto could have prolonged this: After Madara's defeat (if he was defeated) he should have invoked Kaguya. Don't know why he did this earlier, but...OK.
So, as a conclusion we can say Madara IS Not the Final Villain, but Kaguya. A woman. lol. A woman is the final villain...hmm...
Don't know what will happen to Madara...die or Kaguya will control him?

[shisui]

NaruHina fanservice again. I'm not sure what Kishi is doing there. Gaara and Tsunade's dreams were the best.

 

I liked SasuIno a lot. If I had to ship Sasuke with someone, it is Ino. It will never be Karin. I am relieved we didn't see her drolling over Sasuke, that would have been disturbing.

 

Sasuke being mean to Team 7 is expected because he's not redeemed yet. Sakura feeling bad about not being able to do anything may lead to another power-up.
 

Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 28 May 2014 - 12:22 PM.

[Gravenimage]

I understand fans reason for shipping SS, but after this chapter how can they think such pairing will happening? Kishimoto has developed SS in such a negative and bad way its like he's screaming to the reader" this pairing will NOT happen". As for NH the panel from Hinata's dream world is probably the closest thing Kishi will give to the fandom. I noticed too Naruto not putting his arm around her even in her dream world (for all we know Naruto is probably sleeping lol). It doesn't change my mind how terrible Kishi has developed Hinata's character, as an obsessed Naruto fan girl. For all we know Kishi might resolve her character even when Naruto gets together with Sakura, I agreed she doesn't has a clue about Naruto's feelings. I also agreed that she needs a rude wake up call to realize the truth (Naruto will never love her). A who only has Naruto in the brain 24/7 is a character that will never move on, that's my opinion though.

[六道仙人]

naruto will have a double-sided poster color and a rough sketch (?) netx week

[TheFirstEvil100]

I have to say the ending to this chapter was both shocking and the ending I didn't see coming, anyway there are some parts that I would like to talk about from this chapter and how I feel about them.

 

*Sasuke and Team 7: Well what else can I say about the king of the dosh bags, god I just want Naruto to punch him in the face. Sakura as well, but we know that they can't as they do need to deal with Madara, I just hope that Sakura will show Sasuke just how wrong that he is same with Kakashi as well, but we know Sasuke does not care about Team 7 and that he is still evil caring only for him self

 

*The dreams: I have to say I did laugh at Hinata's and what Naruto said about it all being a lie, man that made my day, Kiba's was good as well I mean dog day, but two of the best ones was one with Gaara and the other with Tsunada. After all we get to see Jiraiya again even if it is a dream version of him and he is trying to get Tsunasa little brother into his book porn. oh Jiraiya  we have missed you.

 

*Kaguya returning?: I have to say I didn't see her coming back and from Black Zetsu as well, as many did think she would come back through Madara so that was a good twist Kishi used. 

[ioria]

More Kaguya stuff yay!

I loved Lee's dream.. so funny of him!

[Otaru]

Woa I'm really really surprised that Kishi went for this route, with several little dreams !

I really thought it would be only one dream !

 

But I have to admit, I like it too, and I laugh so hard seeing Hinata is NOT SPECIAL, she is in the genjutsu like everyone else, and her dream is impossible. LOL LOL and LOL

 

I would never expect the moonlight to stop, and Sasuke was really harsh on Sakura, didn't expect that too, but I love it because it forces her to think. And Naruto's reaction was priceless !

 

I just love it !

 

Don't know what to say more right now.

[TheFirstEvil100]

NaruHina fanservice again. I'm not sure what Kishi is doing there. Gaara and Tsunade's dreams were the best.

 

I liked SasuIno a lot. If I had to ship Sasuke with someone, it is Ino. It will never be Karin. I am relieved we didn't see her drolling over Sasuke, that would have been disturbing.

 

Sasuke being mean to Team 7 is expected because he's not redeemed yet. Sakura feeling bad about not being able to do anything may lead to another power-up.
 

I think the reason for it Goodlels is to show that Hinata can only really every get Naruto in a dream, I mean when you look at all the others they are all dreams that will never happen, none of them will ever happen, its just what they want to happen. I mean it also just shows how bad Hinata really is that she only ever thinks about Naruto and being with him, the only good thing we got out of Hinata's dream was Neji being alive.

 

And yeah Sasuke being an A**hole as always good why, why the hell to people like Sasuke so much, can anyone I mean anyone tell me why? 

[milan kyuubi]

Just wanted to post this!

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[Otaru]

Nice chapter , Kiba's dream was lol . Hinata's was to be expected , but it can only be a dream .

 

Sasuke as usual was a prick  , Naruto really needs to put him in his place and if Sakura can help with that , even better .

But this can be good , it means Sakura has yet to prove  that she is not useless and to do that  she will have to play an important part in the coming battle enough so that Sasuke will acknowledge her . That is all that is left of SS , I doubt she still loves or wants him to love her anymore (just my opinion , so don't jump at me all you closet SS fans ) ,  she just wants him to respect her as a valuable member of team 7 and treat her as an equal .  She will show him she is not as useless as he thinks ( if Kishi himself is not a prick )

 

Huge surprise with black zetsu having been Kaguya's will all along ... I don't think anyone has predicted that .

 

I just want Naruto to boost her in the upcoming chapter 679 and create a strategy with her. I know she's too weak right now, but I still think she can participate. Please Kishi.

Edited by Otaru, 28 May 2014 - 12:42 PM.

[Dark Magician]

Naruhina is never going to happen.

And Sasuke is being normal to Sakura which is a dbag.

 

Kaguya taking over was easy to see and thank god because I was tired of Madara.

Edited by Discover, 28 May 2014 - 01:10 PM.

[harry4e]

Well they all truelly did see the impossible...though can I take it from Shikamaru's panel that we can now consider ShkaTema Canon? He just wants to live a peaceful life with Temari out of wedlock.

 

I really wanted to punch Sasuke with his comments, and Kakashi as well to be honest, He knows the most so lets make him the freaking leader....Did he lose his brain as well when he lost his Sharingan as well? He wants to make the one person that doean't work well as part of a team to lead? I have to wonder how much more proof SasuSaku fans need before they accept their pairing is dead, why do they even want Sakura pair with someone so cold and nasty.

 

Well I can genuinely say for the first time in possably years the manga ended with a cliffhanger I did not expect....and that after I had considered the possabilitiy that the Juubi the Sage and his brother fought was infact Kaguya who lost control of the power she gained when eating the seed and absorbing all the Human chakra pods, and made a joke a coule of weeks back that Madara will gain the female body when he unlocks the full power of the Rinnigan + Juubi.

 

I didn't really buy into the theory that Sakura will play a big part in the defeat of Madara (or Kaguya as it might be now) but after seeing the way Sasuke talk to her I get the feeling she'll play a vital role.

 

 

NaruHina fanservice again. I'm not sure what Kishi is doing there. Gaara and Tsunade's dreams were the best.

 

I liked SasuIno a lot. If I had to ship Sasuke with someone, it is Ino. It will never be Karin. I am relieved we didn't see her drolling over Sasuke, that would have been disturbing.

 

Sasuke being mean to Team 7 is expected because he's not redeemed yet. Sakura feeling bad about not being able to do anything may lead to another power-up.
 

 

They got one panel, no more than anyone else, not really more fanservice, plus the family aspact of Hanabi and Neji had the bigger focus. Now Gaara's was by far the best.

Edited by harry4e, 28 May 2014 - 12:52 PM.

[Otaru]

Well I was kinda right. Instead of talking crap about Naruto he talks crap about Sakura. Seriously, when the hell is she gonna b*tch smack him because it's definitely warranted. Oh, and my already passionate hatred for Sasuke has just skyrocketed.

 

There are a couple of things I'd like to address:

 

1. We always went back and forth on whether or not Hinata wants to be romantically involved with Naruto. Well, this chapter pretty much shows that she does want to pursue a romantic relationship with him. And no, this is in no way me saying that NH will be canon because she wants to be with him. This is just me pointing out that Hinata loves Naruto romantically. Nothing more. If anything, this points out that NH won't become canon because it's a dream world. Like a user who just recently said, "only in your dreams". Kiba becoming Hokage? That'll never kittening happen. Sai & Sasuke fighting over Ino? Don't make me laugh. Sakura in love with Rock lee? Some good weed right there.

 

2. Remember all the sexist arguments the NH/SS fandom were coming up with, like how Naruto told Sakura to get back in the kitchen when she offered to fight with them? Well, this chapter just thoroughly pimp smacked that argument back into the kitchen.

 

About Hinata, yes now it's pretty clear, and I have to say that I'm upset.

I thought she were better than that.

I thought she knew about Naruto's feelings for Sakura, and I thought she would never ever imagine of really being with him, like be his wife.

I was wrong, and it makes Hinata more selfish than I thought. This doesn't make her a bad person, but she's not mature.

Her feelings for Naruto are selfish. She doesn't even think about Naruto's feelings.

How couldn't she knows about his feelings for Sakura ?

 

This may be love, but it's not a MATURE LOVE and it will never work.

It's like Sakura's love for Sasuke.

Childish selfish love, like, you want someone for your own and don't think about anything else about that person, don't even look him deep in the eyes.

Edited by Otaru, 28 May 2014 - 12:53 PM.

[tricksie]

Kishi killing off Madara when he's finally coming into full power...? Somebody's been watching Game of Thrones!

 

Sasuke's treatment of Sakura  - ugh! If I were her, I'd tell him to stick that plan of his, no matter how good it was. I wouldn't do a d@mn thing he said after that.

 

So...I think Sasuke's abrasive behavior is strange - like it's suddenly become too harsh. I think it's a set-up for two things: short-term, that Sasuke will step into the power vacuum and take control, so he's asserting his authority now, in a lead up to that; and long-term, Sasuke's abrasiveness can be 'corrected' in an endgame, deathbed redemption, when he finally apologizes to the girl who's only supported him and the sensei he's put down, before acknowledging Naruto as a true best friend.

 

Anyway, I think particularly with Sakura, Sasuke's attitude is now set-up for something at the end, some final recognition of her, her power and her value on the team. Because his snub had nothing to do with a relationship. He just looked at her and said "You're still a dead weight, and now Kakashi is too." Holy crap. Why didn't Naruto push him out into the moonlight right then?! Man.

 

The rest of the chapter had heavy shipping overtones. Naruto/Hinata; Shikamaru/Temari; Lee/Sakura; Tsunade/Dan; Choji/St. Pauli Girl; even Ino/Sai (Ino/Sasuke doesn't count, cause we already knew that).

 

I think that Hinata's dream state proves that her infatuation with Naruto isn't over by a long-shot. I saw some posts saying that because it's in a dream state it is destined to not come true.... I wouldn't say the dreams can predict the future of what's going to happen in their reality (like 'yes! this is proof NH will happen!'). Instead, I think this is definitely proof that Hinata is still focused romantically on Naruto. And I don't think her feelings are going to change until the very end. 

 

And that's okay. Cause I think it's been shown very clearly that Sakura's feelings toward Naruto have changed, and Naruto knows where his heart lies (he told his father explicitly) and now it's just up to him to confess. The specter of NH is going to be there in some way, shape or form until the last chapter.

[harry4e]

Naruhina and shikatema are never going to happen.

And Sasuke is being normal to Sakura which is a dbag.

 

Kaguya taking over was easy to see and thank god because I was tired of Madara.

 

Ohhh ShikaTema will happen, just not the way Shika wants it, he's going down the old ball and chain route, not the care free living in sin route he wants.