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#816071 Naruto Gaiden

Posted by Awes9 on 04 May 2015 - 02:34 AM

6 months and that's the best they could do rehashed plotlines with neo Akatsuki and of course the usual Itachi wank, praise the man who commited genocide and killed even old men and women, I will never get Kishi's obsession with this character and no matter how much he tries to paint him as the god of heroes Itachi will never be one, Kishi has really some twisted morals.
As for Sarada she could be the love child of Sasuke and Danzo that I wouldn't care. More proof that the man has no imagination and no writing skills, I'm almost sure now Akatsuki was not his idea either, most likely his first editor or another manga that Kishi ripped off that's what he does best anyway.


#812183 Naruto Gaiden

Posted by Awes9 on 28 April 2015 - 07:42 AM

@awes
I agree with you.
Kishi is a hype maker and a hype killer at the same time. That's why so many disappointment with this manga.

hype maker - hype killer good way to put it, an other good example is Minato who was hyped to death and who killed himself because he couldn't stand to live without his waifu even if that meant his son would live alone and hated and who was a huge disappointment during the war. Funnily Tobirama who was never hyped was really a genius since he's the one who created some of the most powerful jutsus from scratch and was also the most realistic character.


#812177 Naruto Gaiden

Posted by Awes9 on 28 April 2015 - 07:07 AM

Sakura has always been hated because of her part 1 self and how she treated Naruto but her hate increased after her fake confession which is understandable, Kishi tought that was heroic tough(Kishi's mysterious ways) and after that he simply decided to give up on her and turned her into a pairing fodder with no self respect and dignity, chapter 676 where she wonders if Sasuke gives a kitten in the middle of the war and after multiple murder attempts and 693 were simply the coup de grace but as I said she has been destroyed way before that when she reverted to a Sasuke fangirl during the Kage summit arc. Altough to her defense a good portion of Sakura hate comes from beta male who can’t stand to be rejected by women.

As for why can she be more hated than some villains I don't see the mystery the poll isn't about who is the worst human being but about who is the worst character and Sakura definitively belongs to this list along with a good portion of the Naruto cast, many villains are better characters than the angelic and dull protagonist.

She did have potential like a lot of Naruto characters but unfortunately she could never reach it thanks to an imcompetent and sexist writer. I still think Naruto and Sasuke are worse because they were hyped so much and got most of the screentime but ended up being failure of epic proportions, inconsistent and uninteresting characters especially Naruto who was supposed to be the child of destiny the one who would bring a revolution and surpass the previous generation, all this hype and Kishimoto failed to deliver.


#810597 Naruto Gaiden

Posted by Awes9 on 26 April 2015 - 07:29 AM

Sakura belongs to an asylum with the rest of the Naruto cast.


#810524 Naruto Gaiden

Posted by Awes9 on 26 April 2015 - 03:43 AM

Let's put things into perspective tough Kishi isn't the Naruto writer or even a writer he's just a figurehead "Writers can’t stand suggestions, if you suggest something, we’ll do exactly the opposite."he has no writing talent by himself and doesn't know what to do with his characters or story, we are putting all the blame on him but I'm sure the decisions were taken by different people Kishi just went along because he just didn't know what to do and has no backbone, Sakura Sasuke the chunin exam and so many other plot points were never his ideas. Unfornutalety for this manga the people surrounding Kishi at the end were just as bad as him. Don't be so hard on the man he's just incompetent, the poor man doesn't even know what a red herring is.


#809381 Naruto Gaiden

Posted by Awes9 on 25 April 2015 - 12:54 AM

Remember the Vas were just bsing about what they think the relationships are like. They had no clue unless kishi told them what was going to happen. He clearly didn't.

The VAs are working on the new Boruto movie so they must know about what will happen at the end, hell they even brought Karin in the itw saying how Sasuke is loyal to Sakura and other kitten and here we have Karin in the first chapter of this kitten tele novela thats not a coïncidence. They are most likely aware of the end so I wouldn't execpt anything other than some sappy SS resolution, like they said SS is tru lub. Sasuke will be forgiven as usual and his slave will come back crawling to him without any self respect and dignity like the pathetic fangirl she is and mini Karin will finally have the happy family she always wanted, Burrito will finally understand his father and everyone will live happily ever after.


#806742 Naruto Gaiden

Posted by Awes9 on 23 April 2015 - 09:43 AM

First chapter and Kishimoto is already using pairing bait ! What a pathetic man, the only thing he is good at is using his characters to create fandom drama, so cheap, another proof that this man is incapable of writing a decent story. Naruto isn't even a shoujo anymore it's a kitten soap opera.


#802830 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Awes9 on 17 April 2015 - 05:56 AM

Heh, I agree the series is sh*tty. Wait would that mean Sakura's obsession (Even though it doesnt come close to Naruto's) is justified because she loves him? :umm: I admitted HashiMada is better but its not much of an insult to NaruSasu as that relationship is probably the best in the series.

How disingenuous can you be ? You gave a background to Naruto's affection for Sasuke, Sakura has none of that she just loves Sasuke because (most likely because Kishi wanted her out of Hinata's way and just gave up on her character), and at least Naruto can get some emotions out of Sasuke whether it's hate or jealousy or any other negative emotions he gets an emotional reaction from Sasuke whereas Sasuke only feels deep annoyance apathy and indifference towards Sakura. Naruto has an effect on Sasuke, Sakura doesnt. Don't make me loose my time please by acting dumb Im sure you understood what I meant.
As for Hashimada being the best it's just a subjective opinion, I guess for the standard of this manga it's ok but it's not that great either (look at my avatar this is how a good relationship is written and it completely trumps anything Naruto has to offer). Besides that wasn't my point, my point was that NaruSasu who was developed troughout the manga, 700 chapters and 15 years, still fell short compared to Hashimada which took only few chapters to develop which in turn clearly shows NaruSasu is bad writing because logically something more developed should be better. I don't think what I said was that hard to understand, so if you could please not completely avoid or deflect my points I would be grateful so I won't have to lose time making a long post explaining what should be obvious. Thanks in advance.


#800261 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Awes9 on 13 April 2015 - 04:35 AM

A person who never gets complements and is even insulted a lot will take complements infinitely more than a person who isn't insulted and/or is complemented on, Naruto is pretty much hated by everyone and nobody smiles at him (they actually opposite and gives him looks of hatred), so that makes Sasuke's smile much more special. Sasuke basically sacrificed his life and dream to protect Naruto from Haku and was ready to do that again to Naruto and Sakura during the Gaara fight, Saskue acknowledged Naruto's strength, and he made Naruto feel like he had a brother. I'd say Sasuke is friend material based on these things. 

Sorry but all of Naruto's main friends did f**cked up kitten to him, Sasuke actually saved Naruto, by having someone else who was like him Naruto felt comforted and didn't give in to hatred, he literally states it  in the Five Kage Arc. In response to "destroying everything Naruto values", those are empty threats that haven't been carried out futhermore Naruto is a very empathic/forgiving character, he knows that Sasuke's clan was slaughtered and it was ordered by the Leaf, it wouldn't make sense if Naruto was still ignorant about it but he wasn't.

 

While I do think NaruSasu could have been better (HashiMada was much more better), its still not bad. I would consider trying to save your bestfriend from darkness extremely noble and Naruto stopped being selfish after he learned about Sasuke's clan.

I agree with the rest of your points though :D

Oh no I don't want to enter a debate over such a sh*tty serie as Naruto, come on just admit NaruSasu is forced and nonsencical, you're almost there since you admitted that Hashimada which took just a few chapters to develop is much more better. Honestly the only way I would admit Naruto's obsession with Sasuke as understandable is if Naruto was in love with Sasuke, now it would make more sense for Naruto to chase after Sasuke.




#800164 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Awes9 on 13 April 2015 - 01:58 AM

Did you miss the part when Naruto says he won't abandon Sasuke like Jiraya did to Orochimaru? Which was in Part 1.

Naruto's a orphan that was hated by everyone, its natural he would value bonds much more than the average person.

I will however agree that fainting scene was pretty bad, but the other examples you stated weren't, he let Karui beat him so she could take out her anger on him instead of Sasuke and begging Raikage was just him helping. You have to take into consideration that Naruto sees Sasuke as a brother/BF and his Nindo is quite literally "never giving up".

Lol but why does Naruto see Sasuke as a BF/brother ? because he smiled at him from afar ? that's the only flashback we got in part 1 and that's a pretty weak reason to justify Naruto's quest to "save Sasuke" especially when the interactions between the two in part 1 weren't that deep to begin with, that's Kishi's job to convince people that Naruto was right and looking at most people's reactions he failed pretty hard because Kishi just doesn't understand the simple rule : "show don't tell", How can I connect with Naruto when there's nothing in the manga that allows me to see how great and deep their bond is ? All I see is Naruto looking for a man that doesn't want anything to do with him while ignoring people who have been better friends for him than Sasuke ever was, I don't care if Naruto was an orphan (orphan are human beings too so I execpt normal human reactions from them too) that doesn't justify his obsession in any way shape or form and that's not at all believable, add to that that Sasuke tried to kill him and his teamates on multiples occassions and that he swore to destroy everything Naruto values that's more than enough of a reason to get over Sasuke. Besides why did he need to save him when Sasuke made his own choices and had his own goals, who is Naruto to decide what's right and wrong when he's just a dumb moron who makes sh*tty empty speeches and doesn't offer any real solutions. NaruSasu has been forced down our throats since the beginning of part 2 at the expense of logic and common sense, there's nothing endearing or noble about Naruto's quest and in fact it's really selfish.




#800080 The NaruSaku Moderates

Posted by Awes9 on 13 April 2015 - 12:22 AM

Ever since I discovered this site late last year, I've been noticing... a lot of people have been knocking back the Haterade since the ending came out and things did not end with Naruto and Sakura getting together. Bakamoto this, "Hope SP burns" that, "Naruto is a scumbag," kittening Hinata, quitting Naruto FOREVER, and on and on and on.

 

Understood already, I get that. However, I want to hear more from the NaruSaku moderates, the folks that might have been disappointed things didn't end NaruSaku, but they're cool about it, or even happy it didn't end NaruSaku due to certain things that they wanted addressed first before that Ship came in. So, are there any folks on here that would self-identify as a Moderate Shipper? I want to know what they feel, are they keeping up with the spin-offs, tracking the interviews, etc.? Because I really want to have some discussions about some things, but obviously I'm a bit hestitant with the tone of the current postings here.

But Naruto is garbage with or without the ending, the 250 chapters before the ending were atrocious and a shining example of bad writing, the characters are unrelatable and dumb, the themes...well I don't know what the themes are they keep changing for the worst, put NaruSaku at the end and even toughit would make more sense than what we got Naruto would still be trash, logic and common sense have long left this manga.

I'm keeping up with the itws and spin off even tough I won't read them I'm just curious about their strategy to keep milking the Naruto franchise and so far I would say they are quite incompetent I can't believe these people are supposed to be professional but at the same time I would say they are a good reflection of the state of the Naruto manga so it explains a lot when the people behind the Naruto franchise are so stupid.




#800063 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Awes9 on 12 April 2015 - 11:48 PM

Kishi is taking no bets this time around, he knows he's a mediocre writer at best so best thing to do is to rewrite what made his manga successful in the first place (which wasn't his idea to begin with and a blatant rip off of HXH's exam), smart move I would say. Of course for those who are looking for quality writing you won't find any of it in this cheap fanservice but that has been the case for years in Naruto.




#731939 The Last theory: Collection of Info & co.

Posted by Awes9 on 14 January 2015 - 02:12 AM

 

I truly think Yahagi is the mastermind. Kishimoto just had the art to contribute, i mean in the beginning he wanted to make Naruto a manga about a ramen delivering boy...

 

Or perharps Kishimoto ideas were to much seinen like and thus were refused then he turned to his editors ideas. I mean kishimoto's seinen one-shot Mario actually has some interesting potential. So maybe he just doesnt have talent for the shonen genre

Come on it was just one chapter you can't really judge the man with that but you can judge the man after Yahagi left and look at the unrealistic character development and themes, just give him some time to write Mario and you'll end up with a nonsensical plot and unrelatable dumb characters. Kishi just can't write a consistent story by himself and literary devices like build up, foreshadowing and chekov's gun are foreign concepts to his little brain (I mean just look at the way he handled the redemptions it all happened on a whim and his villains made a 180 for no valuable reason with little to no build up, of course people weren't surprised because you were used to Kishi's carebear world when Psychopaths turned into heroes after being brainwashed by one of Naruto's stupid speeches)but he's quite good with mislead and red herring, he's so good at it that the whole manga turned out to be a giant red herring.

He doesn't have the emotional maturity nor the intelligence nor the talent to handle more mature themes when he already has a hard time with a simple shonen where he contradicted almost all the themes he introduced (if that was his ideas to begin with which I highly doubt), just let him take care of the art, the world and characters creation but never let him write the story because you know he will find a way to ruin everything in fact that's his biggest talent, his power of destruction is amazing.




#731176 The Last theory: Collection of Info & co.

Posted by Awes9 on 13 January 2015 - 09:18 AM

I agree! I honestly have no idea why the most timid covered-up character in this series is the most masturbated to in fandom. It's kittening weird.

Her fans are also the loudest and the most rude in the fandom and god knows that the Naruto fandom has a lot of fantards like Itachi fanboys, Sasuke fanboys, Minato fanboys, Naruto fanboys and many other but none of these fandoms comes close to the fanatism of H/NH fantards (execpt maybe SS tards) and at least Kishi has given them constant material to fap over whereas Hinata is just standing there and appearing 1 panel every 100 chapters and she’s wanked non stop. I tell you there's something deeper behind this it's as if she has some kind of hypnotic power.


#731172 The Last theory: Collection of Info & co.

Posted by Awes9 on 13 January 2015 - 08:59 AM

The Hinata worship is really something that deserves to be studied, that such a bland one dimensional boring side character is so praised and loved makes no sense. What do people see in her ? She's completely empty and has no personality and the kittens themselves don't explain the worship since fanboys and fangirls alike just love her and these people lose any kind of rationality when Hinata is concerned, it's a weird phenomen we need a psychologist.