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#51701 Phantom_999

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Posted 30 March 2020 - 07:45 PM

Oh, I see. Best wishes on him getting better


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Posted 30 March 2020 - 10:05 PM

Well he answered me and said he's got a cold.


Well that sucks! Hope he feels better soon

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Posted 30 March 2020 - 11:51 PM

Well he answered me and said he's got a cold.

Hope he's ok.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 31 March 2020 - 04:21 PM

Hope he's ok.


We will see.

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 08:22 AM

happy ns day everyone :) sorry Im a little late

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 12:45 AM

Hey everyone! You may not remember me but I've a member for awhile. Created multiple accounts lol. Anyone still having a hard time looking at Naruto related content like me? I know I need to get over it but man it pains me so 😑

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 06:02 AM

I dont even bother with it anymore personally speaking. MHA obviously took its place lol and a few other series for me at the moment

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Posted 07 April 2020 - 04:30 AM

I scowl everytime I see Naruto at a places like Wal-Mart. This ending made me lose some hope in storytelling but Kingdom Hearts III Remind made me regain my hope. Because Nomura regretted how he handled Kairi and decided to develop her in the DLC. Not only that but he's giving her a game.


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Posted 08 April 2020 - 05:34 PM

Hey everyone! You may not remember me but I've a member for awhile. Created multiple accounts lol. Anyone still having a hard time looking at Naruto related content like me? I know I need to get over it but man it pains me so

I can look at Naruto related stuff, but you know what it funny? I notice that alot of Naruto related stuff is mostly about Naruto in Shippuden days, Sakura, Sasuke and Kakashi. No Hinata, No Boruto, no nothing of the "future gen."

It really makes me wonder....does the American fanbase really give a crap about Boruto? From my view, no.


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Posted 09 April 2020 - 03:57 PM

Ironic, don't you think? since there was SOOO MUCH pandering to the American fanbase for Naruto. To the point they thought that having Hinata as Naruto's "true love"/"dutch wife" would sky rocket merchandise sales and profits in the Americas :zaru:


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Posted 09 April 2020 - 04:06 PM

I can look at Naruto related stuff, but you know what it funny? I notice that alot of Naruto related stuff is mostly about Naruto in Shippuden days, Sakura, Sasuke and Kakashi. No Hinata, No Boruto, no nothing of the "future gen."

It really makes me wonder....does the American fanbase really give a crap about Boruto? From my view, no.

 

No kidding, James. Especially some video games with the Naruto franchise focuses on that too, like Jump Force and how it has Naruto and Sasuke from their battle with Kaguya and the end of the series before the stupid epilogue, then also having... ****ing Boruto... but still not using the Boruto versions of Naruto and Sasuke, so that tells you something. I bet that the only reason we don't got a reboot or anything is due to Studio Pierrot and Shueisha pushing Boruto too hard because they helped make Naruto what it's become.



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Posted 09 April 2020 - 06:15 PM

Ironic, don't you think? since there was SOOO MUCH pandering to the American fanbase for Naruto. To the point they thought that having Hinata as Naruto's "true love"/"dutch wife" would sky rocket merchandise sales and profits in the Americas :zaru:

That was the plan. Naruto was the big international success. They didn't mind losing the Japanese fanbase if the international made up for it; it didn't. tWhich is partly why kishimoto Samurai 8 didn't last that long even once it went international for the first volume...I think.

 

The nH fans were suppose to support it, but they just pirate.



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Posted 09 April 2020 - 07:16 PM

That was the plan. Naruto was the big international success. They didn't mind losing the Japanese fanbase if the international made up for it; it didn't. tWhich is partly why kishimoto Samurai 8 didn't last that long even once it went international for the first volume...I think.

 

The nH fans were suppose to support it, but they just pirate.

 

Which was the dumbest marketing move they ever pulled. They believed the franchise would be global cash-cows like Dragon Ball and Pokemon. You see why those two are currently successful to this day: those franchises NEVER, EVER ignore their home market and fanbase!


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Posted 09 April 2020 - 08:29 PM

 

Which was the dumbest marketing move they ever pulled. They believed the franchise would be global cash-cows like Dragon Ball and Pokemon. You see why those two are currently successful to this day: those franchises NEVER, EVER ignore their home market and fanbase!

I never understood why businesses continue to cater to the groups that never really support their stuff in the first place. Whether it is pairings fans, political activists, or whatever.

Marvel and DC want to cater to the "woke" crowd and now they are losing businesses and destroying the comic book industry.
Hollywood also cater to the "woke" crowd and the same is happening.
RWBY caters to the "woke" crowd and shipping fandoms and again...it is losing revenue.

Every single downfall in franchises today all kept catering to a "certain crowd" and the paying members just vanish because they don't like it.

Instead of understanding where they went wrong, they rather insult the fanbase and the paying customers and double down or even triple down on their agenda.

It stopped being about good ideas and trying new things and became more about making the minority group happy. There was far more NS and SNS fans around the world than there was NH fans and yet, they chose the later.

Star Wars, Doctor Who, Star Trek.....name a franchise and they will burn it.
 


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Posted 09 April 2020 - 10:51 PM

 

Which was the dumbest marketing move they ever pulled. They believed the franchise would be global cash-cows like Dragon Ball and Pokemon. You see why those two are currently successful to this day: those franchises NEVER, EVER ignore their home market and fanbase!

I will never understand this mentality. Hey we have a proven fanbase that likes what we do so let's kitten on them and cater to this other fanbase that maybe will support us if we do what we think they like.

It has never worked. Ever.

It always ends the same way. In disaster.

 

I never understood why businesses continue to cater to the groups that never really support their stuff in the first place. Whether it is pairings fans, political activists, or whatever.

Marvel and DC want to cater to the "woke" crowd and now they are losing businesses and destroying the comic book industry.
Hollywood also cater to the "woke" crowd and the same is happening.
RWBY caters to the "woke" crowd and shipping fandoms and again...it is losing revenue.

Every single downfall in franchises today all kept catering to a "certain crowd" and the paying members just vanish because they don't like it.

Instead of understanding where they went wrong, they rather insult the fanbase and the paying customers and double down or even triple down on their agenda.

It stopped being about good ideas and trying new things and became more about making the minority group happy. There was far more NS and SNS fans around the world than there was NH fans and yet, they chose the later.

Star Wars, Doctor Who, Star Trek.....name a franchise and they will burn it.
 

You and me both, mate, you and me both.

And what's worse is that they haven't learned their lesson at all. Some months ago Disney revealed their plan for upcoming Star Wars projects and it was called High Republic I think or something idiotic like that. And they showed all the writers and people who are supposed to give the fans what they wanted all along, to bring back the SW that people liked. And they showed a list of the things that were critical to that. That list was like 30 different things, do you want to take a guess on where on the list writing quality, character development and everything that was story crucial were placed? If you guested the very bottom of the list you are correct.

Yeah at the very bottom, the first things on the list were things like diversity.

And I just look at that and saw my childhood and all hope destroyed.


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Posted 10 April 2020 - 06:50 AM

Which was the dumbest marketing move they ever pulled. They believed the franchise would be global cash-cows like Dragon Ball and Pokemon. You see why those two are currently successful to this day: those franchises NEVER, EVER ignore their home market and fanbase!

It was a Global Cash-Cow. Until it wasn't. They thought that every fanbase, except for the domestic Japanese fanbase, were Hinata fans. When in reality it was only the US and that was mainly for three reasons: people sympathized with Hinata seeing her as a victim, saw Sakura as a slut for friend-zoning and hitting Naruto, and the anime stopped at the end of Naruto part one. Of course a lot of Hinata fans were working in Naruto so they saw what they wanted to see and convince everyone else Hinata would be a huge hit.

 

It made sense to them because they wanted that international fanbase because that was the selling point of Naruto; it was Shounen Jump/TV Tokyo/SP biggest international seller. That's also why it instantly got a sequel, and why Samurai 8 was hyped up as the next big manga/anime. Once both those flopped; they stopped caring and focused on things that were becoming a hit like My Hero Academy and such.


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Posted 12 April 2020 - 06:58 PM

Sometime in the summer I plan to make Kingdom Hearts/ SoKai podcast. Once I figure out how to do a Skype that is.


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