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You are right, I cannot counter anything you said because we are talking about something that does not have a definitive answer. 

There is no point in countering each other because it'll keep going in circles.

 

No matter what I say, you'll never see the similarity between Karin and this Sakura. And no matter what you say, I can never NOT see the similarities. This topic is such that we will always be opinonated i.e we won't change our minds. Hence its pointless to continue to argue and its best if we agree to disagree.

Yeah, I can see Sakura is her own character, not some copy of a joke that Kishi thought while bleeding out of his ass. I never thought that would be a useful skill to have, but I guess it is.

Now Sasuke looks nothing like Madara, with his duckbutt hair style - there was hints that he will look like Madara, but now he looks like his brother Izuna

I think he looks more like Madara. While I was reading the 700 spoiler thread, that's what people called him, not Izuna.

Dude... I'm not over here claiming that Sakura is Karin. I said that she seems like a mixture of Karin and Tsunade APPEARANCE WISE. Both in 700 and in here. It was the first thing that popped into my head, and honestly Salad is kind of a factor in that too. It's a concept sketch, as in sketching out ideas. Can you find Konan wearing this in the manga? Because I'm sure it didn't appear in there. Hinata's concept sketch was for her to be a civilian wearing a dress, yet we don't see that in the manga. The same goes for Hanabi and that sketch we saw for her part 2 design, but she remained the same. I won't argue with you, I don't see the point. To each their own.

It doesn't matter if Konan's design wasn't in the manga. It was still drawn by Kishi and I have the right to bring that resemblance up, because it was drawn by Kishi himself and is related to how he designs things in the first place. In canon Sarada is Sakura's daughter, and yet you keep bringing up this supposed resemblance that the child has with Karin, yet that conclusion is taken from your own imagination. Kishi's designs have more to do with how he decides designs than what you finding a minor detail that two characters share, with a connection that isn't very well done in the first place.

These replies aren't for you only, so don't take it personally. I chose you simply because I've read enough of this comparison and because of your username.

 

Konan-sama is not the only one who sees the similarity. I do too and so do a lot of others. Your entire argument is redundant if I use a sentence that you used above --

 

We see a lot of similarity and you do not. We don't expect you to accept our opinions. So why do you expect us to accept your statements as the undisputed truth..? This particular subject is not something like a 'fact' to have a fixed truth.We are taking about appearances and it can only be opinionated. 

No. You see what you want to see. This is the case because you cannot counter anything I said.

Uh, I think you misunderstood... I just said Sakura looks like a mix of Tsunade and Karin in that picture.

There is nothing Karin about her in that pic, besides being both female.

At least to me, she does. Basically it just doesn't seem like the Sakura I know.

Sasuke looks like Madara and Naruto looks like Obito, Choji looks completely different from what he used to look like and TenTen looks like Lee. They changed. What's the point of being specific about Sakura?

I know the pose isn't exclusive to one character, but it just reminded me of Karin given what we see in the manga. Covers aren't really the best proof turn to.

Those covers were drawn by Kishimoto, so they're his artwork. He drew Sakura at least twice in that pose. He also drew Sasuke like that and a bunch of other characters too.

Not once did we see Sakura with a lip shine.

We never saw Naruto with his hair short like Obito either. We never saw Sasuke without his hair sticking out like Goku. We never saw Choji with a beard.

Is it really lip gloss? Karui and Kurenai have it too, but it's weird to see Sakura with it as well, especially when Karin had one in the exact same spot. 

Yes, it's lipgloss. The exact same spot is called light effect. It shifts if they changed their face angle.

As for the mid drift:

 

 

See the similarity? Other than that she has her capris from the movie, heels and lipstick.

You see what you want to see. Karin's a short zipper jacket while Sakura's resembles a qipao. They are not the same type of clothing to begin with and they both may part in the front, but they do so in different ways (zipper vs wrap).

It astonishes me further, because I'm talking with someone with Konan in the name. This is because Konan's clothes under the Akatsuki robe are much closer to what Sakura wears in 700. Kishi said on the notes of this outfit for Konanthat he liked them and was upset he never had the chance of showing them in the manga, so I could see him recycling for Sakura.

And look, in this concept, Konan has a similar outfit, the same pose and a much closer hairstyle to Sakura in that family pic or in the last (soft and parted at the side and sideswetp, and it even has an hair accessory). If you're going to compare Sakura with someone, then compare with Konan, who was a serious character, not a failure played for laughs.

By hair I meant how her hair is similar to Karin's style in 700. You can see the layers of it and it looks different as to what we see in her part 2 hair style.

Sakura wears her hair spiky since part 1.

Salad is a clone of Sasuke mixed with Karin's traits too, honestly.

Sarada has Sakura's face and Sasuke's black eyes and hair.

Don't know why Kishi did that, but meh. Hope that clears things up.

Kishi didn't do anything. You're the one making these conclusions.

She looks like Karin mixed in with Tsunade.. it's a bit weird. You have the pose, clothes, hair, Salad and lip shine that looks like Karin while her lipstick, and outfit is more Tsunade-like. I can't see Sakura in there.

I wonder why I even come anymore. How is Sakura like Karin?

The pose? Sakura was doing that pose several times way before Karin was introduced.

The lip shine is lip gloss, which Kurenai also has. That and lipstick (which Tsunade) is Kishi's symbol for hot women (or wannabe hot women in the case of Karin).

What do you mean by the hair? Sakura has had spuky hair since early part 1 and smooth hair (like Sarada) for a while too. And clothes? Sai and Ino were rocking the mid-drift way before Karin did. Her pants and sandals are very close to part 2 TenTen?

I understand people are upset, but saying Sakura is like a character who Kishi invented while thinking of bleeding out of his ass, is really desperate.

Sakura is the manga's heroine. She was the one present for the final arc and the one that helped bring Naruto and Sasuke home. From the way he speaks, Kishi considered switching due to popularity but didn't because he likes Sakura more.

Hinata has done nothing worth praising. If she's a heroine, it's in the anime. What Kishi has been saying lately about Hinata / NaruHina, it looks like he doesn't care if Hinata / NaruHina burn. Nothing he has said lately is good for Hinata / NaruHina. I hope the trend continues.

The best part is to watch the Hinata / NaruHina fandom scramble. There is no defending this, yet they insist. I've seen them compare Neji's death with Itachi and Jiraiya too. What the hell.