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#28281 VanitasDS76491

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Posted 22 December 2019 - 11:51 PM

The problem I have, is i enjoy some of Naruto still. But what it turns into is just pathetic.


It's like being a star wars fan in my case while I hate episode 8 and 9 I'm still going to be a fan of star wars and rewatch the other movies and play the games and read the comics.

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 12:01 AM

At the end of the day we just have to take the stuff we like and leave the rest. Its that hard after gaining some time and perspective.

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Posted 24 December 2019 - 01:20 PM

If only I could. Every time I look at that short haired jack-@$$ now, I am constantly reminded THAT IS NOT NARUTO UZUMAKI. That isn't the daydreaming compassionate, selfless character we've been rooting for all these years. He is a run down ruined wreck of his former self, glued to office work he could have clones do, avoids his family and friends (those that don't work in the office with him anyway) and nothing concerns him anymore other than his "next date meeting" with his yaoi boyfriend and some emo pre-teen that reminds him of said "yaoi boyfriend".


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Posted 24 December 2019 - 06:13 PM

If only I could. Every time I look at that short haired jack-@$$ now, I am constantly reminded THAT IS NOT NARUTO UZUMAKI. That isn't the daydreaming compassionate, selfless character we've been rootig for all these years. He is a run down ruined wreck of his former self, glued to office work he could have clones do, avoids his family and friends (those that don't work in the office with him anyway) and nothing concerns him anymore other than his "next date meeting" with his yaoi boyfriend  and some emo pre-teen that reminds him of said "yaoi boyfriend".

 

I feel the same way. And then I see stuff that forces Boruto to be in for no other raisins except exposure to a failing series and I got "What the hell?!". I mostly say this due to Jump Force basically forcing Boruto into the mix when he isn't really necessary and some other series coulda gotten some representation with him being omitted. I also say this as something of a fighting game freak, and I've been trying to think of a Shonen Jump vs. Capcom game idea in my brain, where I want to try to find good representation for a roster on the Jump side of things.



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Posted 24 December 2019 - 09:08 PM

If only I could. Every time I look at that short haired jack-@$$ now, I am constantly reminded THAT IS NOT NARUTO UZUMAKI. That isn't the daydreaming compassionate, selfless character we've been rootig for all these years. He is a run down ruined wreck of his former self, glued to office work he could have clones do, avoids his family and friends (those that don't work in the office with him anyway) and nothing concerns him anymore other than his "next date meeting" with his yaoi boyfriend and some emo pre-teen that reminds him of said "yaoi boyfriend".


The hair on Naruto now is a abomination it looks so bad.

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Posted 25 December 2019 - 02:29 AM



Ugh...the comments...


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Posted 25 December 2019 - 05:27 AM

...So which number is marry hinata and spawning Bolt?



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Posted 25 December 2019 - 06:39 AM



Ugh...the comments...

Not even going to read them; I enjoy my sanity.


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Posted 25 December 2019 - 04:47 PM

...So which number is marry hinata and spawning Bolt?


Higher than no. 1 obviously :zaru:

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Posted 25 December 2019 - 06:45 PM


Ugh...the comments...

 that bad huh?
 

...So which number is marry hinata and spawning Bolt?

Well him vs toneri was 5 and him vs Sasuke was 1.

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Posted 25 December 2019 - 06:52 PM

  Well him vs toneri was 5 and him vs Sasuke was 1.

But he didn't win against Sasuke.

Sasuke just gave up.


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Posted 25 December 2019 - 07:31 PM



Ugh...the comments...

More like Top 10 biggest failures Naruto ever earned.


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Posted 25 December 2019 - 07:31 PM

But he didn't win against Sasuke.

Sasuke just gave up.

Not to mention that it lacked any of the tenseness and emotional impact of their first battle at the end of part one.

The "final battle" was just a contest over who would become Hokage pretty much.


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Posted 26 December 2019 - 01:43 AM

Oh for sure, all of that is true. My problem with those themes though is that it was all tell dont show, and the behaviour of both Naruto and Sakura do not make convincing evidence despite what they say. If Naruto is saying he cant have his best friend be killed then that is perfectly acceptable but I find it hard to believe that their interactions until that point made them friends at all. You dont SEE the brother like bond between them except for hearsay. All you get from the story so far is that they are rivals that are driven by envy for eachother and so drive themselves to improve.


Ultimately what Im trying to say is that the themes were there and the emotions were there but the writing was not actually convincing the audience if those themes and emotions were believable which is again supposed to be the writers job.

I think Kishi himself realized this towards the end of the series. The bond that was supposed to serve as the backbone of Naruto's journey just wasn't there, so he created flashbacks to try and explain what they meant to each other hundreds of chapters later. Kinda like how The Last was required to make Naru/Hina...okay, it's still not believable.


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Posted 26 December 2019 - 05:55 AM

I think Kishi himself realized this towards the end of the series. The bond that was supposed to serve as the backbone of Naruto's journey just wasn't there, so he created flashbacks to try and explain what they meant to each other hundreds of chapters later. Kinda like how The Last was required to make Naru/Hina...okay, it's still not believable.

 

And considering Kishi was in a terrible spot since he was tired of working on Naruto as well as still grieving over losing his dad, it didn't help when others like Studio Pierrot set up the guidelines to what the ending was gonna be and basically pissed all over everything else he did, since grief can be pretty dangerous when it blinds us to things such as our creativity.



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Posted 26 December 2019 - 01:27 PM

More like Top 10 biggest failures Naruto ever earned.

 

Yeah, agreed. I mean really. According to the "REAL FANS", his only important accomplishment to the exclusion of all others is marrying and knocking up the divine "stacked Princess" Hinata Hyuga :th_yeah:  :zaru: None of those accomplishments or fights listed in that video matter :lmao:


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Posted 26 December 2019 - 05:58 PM

 

Yeah, agreed. I mean really. According to the "REAL FANS", his only important accomplishment to the exclusion of all others is marrying and knocking up the divine "stacked Princess" Hinata Hyuga :th_yeah:  :zaru: None of those accomplishments or fights listed in that video matter :lmao:

 

No kidding. I could do an even better Top 10 I'm sure.



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Posted 26 December 2019 - 10:25 PM

But he didn't win against Sasuke.
Sasuke just gave up.

actually it was more like a draw since both were knocked out after there last clash and waking up hours later after the fight no one won the also shouldn't they both have bled out from that wound if they splet that long.
  

More like Top 10 biggest failures Naruto ever earned.

agreed
  

Not to mention that it lacked any of the tenseness and emotional impact of their first battle at the end of part one.
The "final battle" was just a contest over who would become Hokage pretty much.

  

that last fight was already pointless and no one set up its just Sasuke randomly goes evil again.
Yeah, agreed. I mean really. According to the "REAL FANS", his only important accomplishment to the exclusion of all others is marrying and knocking up the divine "stacked Princess" Hinata Hyuga :th_yeah:  :zaru: None of those accomplishments or fights listed in that video matter :lmao:

I'm surprised they didn't count Naruto marrying hinata as a victory though Naruto vs toneri made it.

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Posted 27 December 2019 - 04:17 PM

 

No kidding. I could do an even better Top 10 I'm sure.

 

Oh you definitely could buddy, I'm just saying that compared to Naruto becoming Hinata's "man" and getting her preggars :th_yeah: nothing else matters to those "orignal fans that still watch it. If there are still any of those left. As far as I'm concerned, "original" Naruto fans that are still watching Boruto up to this point are becoming more and more on the verge of extinction   :zaru: :goodjob:  :roll:


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Posted 27 December 2019 - 05:53 PM

 
Oh you definitely could buddy, I'm just saying that compared to Naruto becoming Hinata's "man" and getting her preggars :th_yeah: nothing else matters to those "orignal fans that still watch it. If there are still any of those left. As far as I'm concerned, "original" Naruto fans that are still watching Boruto up to this point are becoming more and more on the verge of extinction   :zaru: :goodjob:  :roll:


Wait they actually that Naruto becoming Hinatas man and getting her pregnant is the only good thing that Naruto did?





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