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#25341 lupina

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 12:44 AM

lol Yes he did but let Toriyama did say Goku was meant to be simple as he lived all on his own, in the woods.

 

Well, according to "The Last" Naruto is supposed to think that Hinata loved him like Ramen ... something to eat ... because he is not supposed to know what "romantic love" is. 


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 01:00 AM

 

Well, according to "The Last" Naruto is supposed to think that Hinata loved him like Ramen ... something to eat ... because he is not supposed to know what "romantic love" is. 

which as we all know is stupid as Naruto even way back in part 1 knew what love was remember the whole Haku love you Zabuza speach, I'm sure other will help out as its very late my end and I'm tired and need sleep sorry Lupina would help but I need sleep :D



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 01:58 AM

Question. Are there any anime that are based off actual books and not manga? This is something I've wondered about for a long time. 



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 02:40 AM

Question. Are there any anime that are based off actual books and not manga? This is something I've wondered about for a long time. 

I've seen (American made, I think) adaptations of classic literature. Like Romeo and Juliet and pride and prejudice. There's also a ton of anime out there based on light novels, which are basically chapter books with the occasional drawing in it. Durarara!! is the best example I can think of at the moment. It has a manga adaptation but it originated from a light novel. 


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 03:32 AM

 

Well, according to "The Last" Naruto is supposed to think that Hinata loved him like Ramen ... something to eat ... because he is not supposed to know what "romantic love" is. 

 

Such a cowardly excuse like that is why I'm unable to accept NH. The Last wrecked Naruto's character and did a great job turning him into an a-hole.

 

Not only did it make him out to be clueless and disconnected with his own feelingswhen in fact he knew what he wanted right from the start, he also saw Sakura as a trophy to be won because of his rivalry with Sasuke (even though Sasuke was never romantically interested in her to begin with).

 

How they managed to twist Naruto's genuine interest in Sakura into something so shallow and cheap still baffles me, especially since it was shown time and time again that had he'd seriously loved and wanted her from the get-go.


Edited by gamma, 24 September 2017 - 05:10 AM.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 06:01 AM

I think most people in general thought Naruto was gonna end up with Sakura. I came across this thread https://myanimelist....=1264507&show=0 where they were discussing who was more likely to end up with Naruto and most of them thought it was Sakura. This was discussed just before Naruto ended. It doesn't mean anything now, but it's interesting what other people thought.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:39 AM

which as we all know is stupid as Naruto even way back in part 1 knew what love was remember the whole Haku love you Zabuza speach, I'm sure other will help out as its very late my end and I'm tired and need sleep sorry Lupina would help but I need sleep :D

 

I know it it stupid. It is a straight Rip off of DB, what just dosen't fit into the Narutoverse, but was done anyway (Maybe they thought they could get some sympathy points or fans wouldn't be so outraged because they have seen this before). 

 

 

Question. Are there any anime that are based off actual books and not manga? This is something I've wondered about for a long time. 

 

 

"Heidi" was based of a book from an Austrian woman and I think there are some more Animes' from that time period which are based on books. 


Edited by lupina, 24 September 2017 - 09:54 AM.

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 01:11 PM

Such a cowardly excuse like that is why I'm unable to accept NH. The Last wrecked Naruto's character and did a great job turning him into an a-hole.

 

Not only did it make him out to be clueless and disconnected with his own feelingswhen in fact he knew what he wanted right from the start, he also saw Sakura as a trophy to be won because of his rivalry with Sasuke (even though Sasuke was never romantically interested in her to begin with).

 

How they managed to twist Naruto's genuine interest in Sakura into something so shallow and cheap still baffles me, especially since it was shown time and time again that had he'd seriously loved and wanted her from the get-go.

They didn't want Hinata to be seen as Naruto's "silver medal." Since chapter three of this 700 chapter manga we have known Naruto had some level of feelings for Sakura. Which meant that hinata as far as everyone knew; even if they got together was Naruto's "second choice." They didn't want that, and they didn't want the audience to think that. So the last's goal was to make sure hinata wasn't seen as the second choice. In order to do that they made her princess of the hyuga clan, the goddess of the moon, as strong as the six path sage, heir to six path sage's brother, constantly tried to make her look as pretty as possible, change their backstory, got Sakura to help push them together, the illusion, the contest between the scarves of motherly love versus true love, and so on.

 

The problem is that by doing so especially that speech Sakura gave to dismiss that Naruto ever had genuine feeling for her on any level. But by saying that his feeling for Sakura were a lie then that meant Naruto was lying about one of the first thing we learned about him for fifteen years. If he was lying about that; what else was he lying about? By doing what they did in the last they destroyed one of the most important parts about a story; the likability of the main character.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 25 September 2017 - 04:05 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 01:47 PM

They didn't want Hinata to be seen as Naruto's "silver medal." Since chapter three of this 700 chapter manga we have known Naruto had some level of feelings for Sakura. Which meant that hinata as far as everyone knew; even if they got together was Naruto's "second choice." They didn't want that, and they didn't want the audience to think that. So the last's goal was to make sure hinata wasn't seen as the second choice. In order to do that they made her princess of the hyuga clan, the goddess of the moon, as strong as the six path sage, heir to six path sage's brother, constantly tried to make her look as pretty as possible, change their backstory, got Sakura to help push them together, the illusion, the contest between the scarves of motherly love versus true love, and so on.

 

The problem is that by doing so especially that speech Sakura gave to dismiss that Naruto ever had genuine feeling for her on any level. But by saying that his feeling for Sakura were a lie then that meant Naruto was lying about one of the first thing we learned about him for fifteen years. If he was lying about that; what else was he lying about? By doing what they did in the last they destroyed one of the most important parts about a story the likability of the main character.

On top of that, this retrospectively makes Naruto look like nothing but an absolute hypocrite after he rejected Sakura's confession and saying that he hated it when people lied to themselves.  Well, what the hell do you call claiming you are in love with a girl that you were objectifying  just to get one over your rival, who never had an interest in her in the first place?

 

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 03:04 PM

Well apparently the director of the movie never read the source material, and I think several members here can attest to that


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:29 PM

Question. Are there any anime that are based off actual books and not manga? This is something I've wondered about for a long time. 

well sword art online for example is made from light novels, so yeah probably so, wouldn't be surprising.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 11:21 PM

Well apparently the director of the movie never read the source material, and I think several members here can attest to that

and from what I have been told Naruto and Hinata got married a year after getting together, so not sure if that is true but if it is boy oh boy their marrage is very doomed.



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 11:31 PM

and from what I have been told Naruto and Hinata got married a year after getting together, so not sure if that is true but if it is boy oh boy their marrage is very doomed.

 

They were just so MADLY in love! Didn't you read the last 600+ chapters? Gosh some people need to stop believing in red herrings and stop messing with TRUE LOVE!  :hehehe:

 

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 11:56 PM

 

They were just so MADLY in love! Didn't you read the last 600+ chapters? Gosh some people need to stop believing in red herrings and stop messing with TRUE LOVE!  :hehehe:

 

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lol well I wish I could have gone to their wedding, why I would bring a gun and then when it got to Hinata I would walk up put a bullet in her skull, while screaming out "WALKER!"



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Posted 25 September 2017 - 12:00 AM

The problem is that by doing so especially that speech Sakura gave to dismiss that Naruto ever had genuine feeling for her on any level. But by saying that his feeling for Sakura were a lie then that meant Naruto was lying about one of the first thing we learned about him for fifteen years. If he was lying about that; what else was he lying about? By doing what they did in the last they destroyed one of the most important parts about a story the likability of the main character.

Ay, watcha talkin 'bout? He even did shadow clones before he got ninja scroll in The Last, dude was a puppeteer from ch. 1



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Posted 25 September 2017 - 12:01 AM

lol well I wish I could have gone to their wedding, why I would bring a gun and then when it got to Hinata I would walk up put a bullet in her skull, while screaming out "WALKER!"


It's kinda funny, but I don't hate Hinata. I just hate most of her fans. Kinda like some LeBron James fans, Justin Bieber fans or even some TSM fans if I can compare it to other fanbase. The players, artist, League of Legend teams, or even fictional characters are not bad. But the fanbase making them invincible or giving them a God-like status is what makes me hate the Fans.

Honestly, I would just fix the story and give Hinata a proper development which would make her tunnel vision of Naruto change into a desire to become a better "Ninja" and clan leader for herself. After all, even she got ruined by the movie The Last.

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 12:24 AM

and from what I have been told Naruto and Hinata got married a year after getting together, so not sure if that is true but if it is boy oh boy their marrage is very doomed.

They fell in love in winter and were married by spring. So about three months...I think one of the light novels even mentioned the exact number of months they dated...can't remember.



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Posted 25 September 2017 - 12:28 AM

Ay, watcha talkin 'bout? He even did shadow clones before he got ninja scroll in The Last, dude was a puppeteer from ch. 1

Which was just another thing that he lied about. He wasn't an idiot that couldn't produce a basic clone at 12. He was a super genius that could use the shadow clones when he was three.



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Posted 25 September 2017 - 12:44 AM

They fell in love in winter and were married by spring. So about three months...I think one of the light novels even mentioned the exact number of months they dated...can't remember.

OH GOD! THAT EVEN WORSE!

 

No wonder their marrage sucks they rushed into it most things take years or at best 3 or 4 years of dating.



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Posted 25 September 2017 - 01:35 AM

OH GOD! THAT EVEN WORSE!

 

No wonder their marrage sucks they rushed into it most things take years or at best 3 or 4 years of dating.

 

Not even rushing but leaving the clan as well (I assumed). Til this day, these NH fans didn't even thought of the Byakugan. Oh no, they didn't because they had to retcon everything so Hinata can officially jump on Naruto's bones.


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