Boy think they are Naruto. Girls think they are Hinata. What they think is what matters not what others feel or think; that is how they have always lived.
Boys think they are Naruto and most usually are. Shy, not many friends, felt invisible etc. Eventually, they become the class clown to try and be noticed. They try to be the class clown to show they are not a threat.
Girls THINK they are Hinata, but in reality they are closer to Sakura. Try to always be pretty, fall in love and are obsessed with the kitten boi cause he is popular, and then wonder why he doesn't love her back. They constantly claim they just want the nice guy to be loved and such. "I just want a nice guy." At one point, they HAD a nice guy, but they said "he is too nice." In real life, Sakura might crawl back to Naruto with Salad begging to get back together because Naruto became stable and she is all alone penniless, and now wants the nice guy because she is desperate.
I literally had an intern that was just like Sakura. She was beautiful, smart in medical, and had great potential to be the perfect girl, but she was hung up on a guy who was a military man who cared more about career than her. She dated a nice guy once and she was like "He was too clingy." That's fine. I can understand, but then she dates this other guy because he wears a military uniform and want THAT guy to behave like the nice guy she once dated.
Didn't Sakura even say in one of the light novels she wished Sasuke behaved more like Naruto? I remember reading that and that pissed me off.
I think that is the true reason for the hate of Sakura and love of Hinata. Sakura IS them. Hinata is what they WANT to be. I have heard so many damn stories....just so many....the funny thing about Naruto and Hinata's relationship and Hinata, as she hits lates 30s, will probably want an open marriage cause the excitement is gone.
Are boys like Sasuke? Yes, but only after girls like Sakura reject and berate boys like Naruto and then they become Sasukes.
Again, I have seen this happen so many times. And when guys become enraged about being the true nice guy and then treated like kitten; saying how they feel it is unfair for women to treat the real nice guys like kitten...they always ask the infamous question..."Who hurt you?"
See, it is apparently okay for women to be emotional and weak after a break up, but guys...we are not allowed to be emotional.
These same girls will then beg and plead for attention from the Chad and such and they will eventually get it, but years worth of love and attention mean nothing while the Chad gives one moment and they think "this is the greatest thing of my life."
It is almost like these girls WANT to be abused and starved for attention. I wish I was wrong, but it is just what I see. Also, I find it suspicious that Sakura started noticing Naruto AFTER Hinata started to push her feelings. Do girls enjoy competition?
I don't know. Modern relationships confuse me.
I think in Naruto its even reference that, "even the Buddha loses patience when insulted or hit in the face three times," its from Tobi introduction.
So, even in a religion that heavily influences Kishimoto's culture says there are limits; which again, he out right quotes.
The problem is that most self-reflection by Naruto would lead to serious questions. Questions kishimoto does not have answer to, so he avoids. Mostly because it would raise questions of why is Naruto still chasing after and forgiving Sasuke no matter what. Which kishimoto stuck Naruto with in part two because he decided he wanted the rematch to be both the final battle and what returns Sasuke to the village.
As for villains it ties to the talk no jutsu. At first Naruto hates them for being kitten and the enemy but then after fighting he learns about their sad past. Then he gives them a speech that they shouldn't give up. They change their lives and then their friends with everything being under the bridge. It started with Haku.
This is the massive issue with anything involving forgiveness because people can't decide what forgiveness means. People say "you can forgive, but not forget;" to many other people this is considered "holding a grudge."
I have seen two types of views on this.
Forgiving means to forget. You stop holding grudges, you don't hold it against them, and other such things.
Then there are some that say forgiving and forgetting are two different things and you can forgives, but still hold them accountable.
For my experience, it is the former and not the latter, but I guess it is all from perspective. If it is someone else, they can easily say "You can forgive and not forget" and this is okay, but when it involves them personally, they think forgiveness MEANS you forget their transgressions.
I think ultimately, people will say one thing until it involves them, then they change definitions and say things like "this one is different."
Also he forgave Nagato. He said he still hated him for killing Jiraiya when they finally met despite him remembering Jiraiya's teachings. But remembering them he decided to ask about his tragic back-story. Learned it. Talk no jutsu. Nagato revives everyone. Naruto forgave Nagato and when they met again during the war, they're buddies.
Bold: Ummm...not according to this panel he didn't...and he said this after Nagato's whole story
This is was the last time I saw Naruto as...well...Naruto. There are things that are too severe to be forgivable and it is easy for Naruto to do this for Sasuke and not others. Sasuke got NO punishment. "Well, he got exiled." How is that a punishment for him? He never wanted to be there in the first place.
and worse, he can make it excuse everytime he is not home and people do make it so...."He is still exiled, that is why he is not home." Yet Naruto asks him if it would kill him to be home every now and then.
People really piss me off with this double logic whether it be forgiveness and punishments....and they always say the three big words that TRULY piss me off: "Well, this is different."
It is the most selfish statement to make. Oh so when it is YOUR friend/kid/spouse/family in trouble and breaks laws or whatever evil act, you want to defend them and say "they didn't know," but when it is someone else's friend/kid/spouse/family then they say "kitten them, they deserve 100% of what they get...no exceptions."
Naruto forgave Nagato and when they met again during the war, they're buddies.
And we all agree that this is kitten since he was basically forgiving everyone who just said "sorry." This is why I say Pain Arc Naruto is truly the last time Naruto was Naruto.
The massive altruism from Naruto past that is just ultimate form of naivety and makes Naruto more like Jesus Christ of the ninja world. No, possibly even more ridiculous as that cause even Jesus Christ was said to smite the horrible people and punish them.
We also have this panel
Revenge? Punishment and revenge are two very different things and you are unwilling to let people who commit crimes be punished because you feel it is revenge. It is not. People MUST be punished for crimes and to show that treating others this way is not acceptable. You can't just go around and kill people, torture, or even use them for experimentation without repercussions. It will send the world into chaos. A purge if you will. You are essentially telling people that they can do whatever they want and have NO consequence or at worse a slap on the wrist telling them "don't do it again." What happens if someone kills your family...should they not be punished? Oh wait, we just had a scene of Naruto forgiving someone for killing his own son, but get MAD at people if they even attempt to kill your best friend. You kittening scumbag.
If someone means to do you harm they are not your friend period and I think this is where it breaks down. So, if a person commits a crime, if they are your friend, then they should be let off? That's not how this works. Especially when Naruto says "my friends will want to seek revenge." Umm, no, Naruto, because right after this convoy all your friends agree that Sasuke needs to be punished and want him to stop trying to kill them...that is where Naruto hyperventilates because he realizes that his friends want his best friend dead BECAUSE he has become a terrorist and they don't want their own family and friends in danger by them.
This is how stupid this logic is and why I call Naruto truly selfish. He makes everyone else follow his rules while never understand the true people that are suffering. Some people don't want revenge, they want justice; they want the person to be locked up because they feel they deserve to not be apart of society EVER. This is why when people truly exile people, they can NEVER return. Naruto wants to understand the villains, but never understands the people he is trying to protect. Why? And why does Sasuke ALWAYS get a pass while you tell others to never seek revenge, but instantly lose your kitten if someone even INSULTS Sasuke? You hypocrite.
What if there was a villager who keeps calling Sasuke a C--t everytime he shows up or punches Sasuke everytime he shows up? Is Naruto going to punish that one villager because how dare he hurt Sasuke? Isn't that revenge?
The Punisher said it best:
"In certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment."
So, if I could ask Naruto one question, it would be "To you, what is the difference between revenge and punishment?" What if death is the only true punishment for someone so vile?
Edited by James S Cassidy, 08 May 2022 - 03:24 PM.
