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#1 BestSasuHinaSupporter

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 12:18 AM

Hello NaruSaku Forums


This topic's purpose is to discuss the lies, deception and inconsistencies with the NaruHina pairing



Lets start off with the lies and inconsistencies of (The Last, Naruto The Movie):



"The Last" shows some filler flashbacks not present in the original manga trying to justify that Hinata always accepted Naruto from the beginning and fabricates Naruto's feelings for her with some genjutsu. 

 
 
In the original scene where Naruto saves Hinata from bullies prior to the movies FABRICATED version of it
 
 
Original Version
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Hmm... there doesn't appear to be a scarf around Naruto's neck
 
 
The Last Naruto the Movie's FABRICATED version
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Suddenly he now has a scarf ?
 

Hinata sewing the scarf she "ALWAYS HAD" ?
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Gee Hinata where you get that scarf from ?


The last Naruto the movie recreated the scene where Hinata has always kept the scarf Naruto left behind after being pulverized by the bullies ? So how does Hinata have a scarf that originally she OR NARUTO NEVER HAD to begin with ? and The Last Naruto The Movie is suppose to be cannon and BASEd OFF THE MANGA ? this makes UTTER 0 sense.
 
 
Hinata is conveying her feelings that she "ALWAYS HAD" into a scarf SHE NEVER ALWAYS HAD ? There has never been a scene in the anime or manga panel depicting Naruto ever even wearing a scarf when he fought off the bullies attempting to hurt Hinata if she always kept it then we would have seen scenes of her sewing it in both the anime and manga, And it's stated that The Last Naruto the Movie is suppose to be based on the anime and manga ?

 
This only further proves Naruto and Hinata never had a reason to get to together in the anime/manga since the scarf AKA fabricated scarf "Movie Only" was the only reason albeit spontaneous reason they got together    :P
 
 
The Last Naruto the Movie was just a damn venue point to make money because NaruHina has the biggest pairing fanbase with millions of supporters regardless if the Pairing makes sense or not or that NaruSaku rivals it, So the director of that movie saw it as a cash cow to cater to those millions of fans of NaruHina, the director of The Last Naruto the movie was thinking "Hey $5 per ticket to see the movie and their are millions of NaruHina fans i'm going to be swimming in money!!" Thats why that abomination of a movie should never ever be considered cannon when it completely contradicts the manga.



Lets talk more about that bully scene:


First the bully scene is shown in broad daylight 

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Once again there doesn't appear to be a scarf around Naruto's neck


Now it's shown on a snowy road ?:

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Once again he's wearing a scarf now ? Wouldn't that contradict the first time the bully scene was shown ? because if Hinata always had the scarf Naruto lost when he was attacked by the bullies wouldn't she mention the scarf during pain arc or at the very least show a flashback where she kept the scarf ? after all the very first time this bully scene was shown was during the pain arc but nope she didn't even have the scarf the first time the bully scene was shown during the pain arc that's why Naruto and Hinata's "Romance" in (The Last, Naruto The Movie) is a lie and fake and once again its fabricated 



Now the bully scene is shown in a classroom ?  and when did Shikamaru ever witness it ? and Iruka was never there to stop the bullies from attacking Naruto and Hinata

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This filler episode scene was released AFTER (The Last, Naruto The Movie) but this filler episode completely contradicts that movie because this filler episode was suppose to give some Justification on Naruto and Hinata's "Romantic" relationship, But in this filler episode released AFTER (The Last, Naruto The Movie) Naruto Saves Hinata from bullies WITHOUT WEARING A SCARF, and before this bully scene occurred Hinata was suppose to be running from her father due to him Neglecting her for being weak, Studio Pierrot is getting desperate they are willing to erase established events that happened in the manga just to attempt to justify and make sense of NaruHina but they failed horribly because this filler episode created and written by them contradicts everything about (The Last, Naruto The Movie) which was created by them



Now Naruto and Hinata meet for the first time but this time there are no bullies around AT ALL ?

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This is a major contradiction, it completely contradicts How Naruto and Hinata meet for the first time, Hinata doesn't have the memory of Naruto protecting her from bullies in this scene, Hinata developed romantic feelings for Naruto because of his unyielding "Never Giving Up" attitude not because he took her home, One lie after another Studio Pierrot is a bunch of liars who tells so many lies they can't even keep track of them, The fact that Studio Pierrot keeps adding Non existent NaruHina moments in the Anime shows that they add content to the Naruto story line that never even existed in the Original Naruto manga, Studio Pierrot Your not deceiving us, Anyone with a mind will be able to see how you are lying about the NaruHina pairing and how that pairing was built




This why Naruto and Hinata's relationship is completely unbelievable because they keep recreating this scene that never even happened in the Original manga



But I guess it doesn't matter if these NaruHina moments IN THE ANIME are inconsistent 


Because NONE OF THOSE MOMENTS HAPPENED IN THE MANGA, Naruto and Hinata never met each other when they were small children therefore there was little to none NaruHina romantic development in the entirety of the manga


If these NaruHina fillers are meant to justify Naruto and Hinata's "Romantic" Relationship in (The Last, Naruto The Movie) then why are they creating moments that NEVER existed in the Last or even the manga at all ? 



So if these NaruHina fillers were created to justify and greatly canonize (The Last, Naruto The Movie) then fuucking hell keep the content of these fillers consistent with the story of (The Last, Naruto The Movie) 




And lets talk about this picture of Naruto and Hinata "He Drew In 1998" to justify that he was "Always" planning NaruHina from the start of the manga:

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Now why was this picture of Naruto and Hinata put on the web AFTER Kishimoto ended the Naruto manga series ? if this picture was truly made in 1998 then surely it would have been out there ALOT LONGER than before the Naruto manga was ended


I'll tell you why because it was created at the last minute after Kishimoto ended the Naruto manga because he was aware that putting 2 people together romantically who has little to ZERO romantic would cause HUGE backlash so he came up with a lie to "Justify" that he was always planning NaruHina from the start by saying that he planned NaruHina with this "1998" sketch of Naruto and Hinata which is a lie because:


Because in the first chapter when he first introduced Hinata chapter 37 in the Naruto manga this is how he drew Hinata:

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Look how sloppy Kishimoto draws Hinata in this manga page, Kishimoto improved on drawing Hinata's design over time, if that is so then why does his 1998 drawing of Hinata looks like the present day Hinata he draws which took him years to perfect


But this picture of Hinata that "He Drew In 1998"
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It looks far to modern, It looks like the way he draws the modern day Hinata which clearly shows that Kishimoto was lying about the date and year when this picture was drawn so that he could give some justification of that pathetic NaruHina ending he gave us that he was planning NaruHina from the start


Which is another example that shows that he was never planning for NaruHina at the start


And finally lets talk about the scarf one more time

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If Kishimoto claims that (The Last, Naruto The Movie) was cannon then why was Hinata never shown in the manga to always have Naruto's scarf as a reminder of the time he protected her from the bullies ? In fact Hinata has never mentioned or referenced EVEN ONCE of having Naruto's scarf in the manga, How do I know this ? well look at this manga page in the earlier chapters of the Naruto manga:


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Naruto was acting like he didn't even know Hinata even existed and didn't even know shiit about her clan, And this moment in the manga was supposedly YEARS after Naruto "Protected" Hinata from bullies, If that is true then why didn't Naruto know who Hinata was ? It's because they NEVER met or gotten close when they were small children but Kishimoto is telling us that Naruto and Hinata met when they were small children and Hinata kept Naruto's scarf as a reminder of her meeting Naruto when they were small children ?    :huh: Kishimoto contradicts himself during every interview he partakes in, It's like he forgets the shiit he writes in the manga,


There is only one explanation to this, Naruto NEVER protected Hinata from bullies, Hinata NEVER had Naruto's scarf as a reminder of him protecting her from bullies, In fact Naruto and Hinata have never met when they were small children,  


And NaruHina fans have the audacity to say that NaruSaku's development was based on non cannon filler content ?   :huh: fuucking hypocrites, They contradict themselves every moment they speak 



Naruto and Hinata's romantic development is based on nothing but LIES and INCONSISTENCIES, Always has been and always will, NaruHina will never be a believable pairing especially since it's based on lies...


Guys post your reasons why NaruHina doesn't make sense and also post the lies and inconsistencies you have seen with Naruto and Hinata's "Romantic" relationship in this topic, I wont argue against anything you say I just want to listen on how you feel and view Naruto and Hinata's relationship.


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Posted 29 June 2017 - 09:06 PM

Only one point sticks out to me more than anything else. It's said Hinata was planned to be Naruto's love interest from the beginning, but again she was not even brought up until chapter 37. Hell, she was only thrown in Kiba and Shino's team because Kishi couldn't think up any girl to fill in their team to complete the two males one female dynamic. She was supposed to only be a civilian until that point-in-time 


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Posted 30 June 2017 - 12:14 AM

Its entirely plausible she was intended to be just that. there are several changes made from the original manga to the one Kishimoto finally did submit including Naruto actually being the fox among others.

 

The story simply evolved away from those original notions, and to what it became mostly. 

 

This was emphasized rather heavilly by the drastic growth of Sakura as opposed to Hinatas near irrelevance to the story.


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Posted 30 June 2017 - 12:42 AM

While I can see the claim that Hinata is supposed to be the heroine, I think the chance for that to happen is really low.
That's the claim from Hinata fan who come from the art that show Hinata with civilian cloth.
They think something like that because they thought Hinata would make a better heroine than sakura simply because her love for naruto and her hyuga heritage.

The problem is kishi never brought it up during the making of naruto manga.
The first character he created is naruto, third hokage, kakashi, sakura, and sasuke. Heck even character like minato is only create as silhouette rather than the final design. Oh and the apperance of chouji father in chapter 1 but there are no hyuga at all.

So I don't think kishi ever intend to make Hinata as heroine because if she's, she will be the first character to appear and not in chunin exams arc.

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 12:50 AM

I really doubt that picture is drawn in 1998.
Naruto first publication in weekly shonen jump is in November 1999.
So he draw it in 2000 or after it.

How can they know that picture draw in 1998?
Does kishi said it? Or is that just another baseless claim?

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 07:29 PM

When the picture was drawn is basically irrelevant. Artist draw concept art all the time some all or none of which makes the main story.

 

What matters is the story itself and the story itself simply didnt fit with an NH final pairing.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:42 AM

When the picture was drawn is basically irrelevant. Artist draw concept art all the time some all or none of which makes the main story.
 
What matters is the story itself and the story itself simply didnt fit with an NH final pairing.

I think it will be matter for people who want to prove that Hinata is a first character create by kishimoto therefore their argument that nh supposed to be an end pairing since the beginning of manga is right and that Hinata should be the heroine not sakura.

If not than Hinata is created alongside the other side characters for chunin exam arc. Thus proving that nh isn't mean to be end pairing since the beginning and she can't be a heroine because sakura is create first.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 12:18 PM

naruhina has no logic.
 
The only reason that narusaku has had the greatest development throughout the manga period since its inception.
 
The only mistake committed by Kishimoto is that it is Hinata who is saving Naruto in the pain arc.


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Posted 06 September 2017 - 06:25 AM

 

I have the opposite view, as in, more other non-main character bonds doing things, rather than everything getting handed to the main cast. They don't need their own arcs, like Shikamaru did, just some special parts given to them. 

 

Also, would have liked to see more deaths, even if that wasn't really Kishimoto's style. Like if we were going for a rewrite here with an NS intended ending, have Hinata die here, no revives, then keep Neji dead at 615, or maybe Lee jumps in instead. 

 

That said, NH has show-able logic to it, and I'm not sure if I'd say NS has the greatest development. 

I do not hate the naruhina relationship.
 
But what I want to say is that fans are the ones who set the end of the Naruto manga and not the writer.
 
And please do not respond to what I said because it is true. Please


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Posted 06 September 2017 - 02:06 PM

NH development is nothing but filler in other words, it's all made up. It completely goes against the manga, that's why there are retcons and contradictions. NH is fake, it always has been to me. 


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 12:20 AM

 

Um. This is objectively false? You can showcase NH development easily with just two chapters, and show a change from X position in Chuunin Exams, to Y position in Chuunin Exams in their bond, and how Naruto views her.

Viewing someone isn't bond.






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