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[LuckyChi7]

Sighs... ya know this has been on my mind since the tail end of last year, and I'm finally ready to move on from the pairing drama that goes on in the Naruto community for my channel: 

 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 03 July 2023 - 09:17 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

Sighs... ya know this has been on my mind since the tail end of last year, and I'm finally ready to move on from the pairing drama that goes on in the Naruto community for my channel: 

 

The problem is that you are probably the "most well known NS supporter on Youtube." Which means people that both want to talk about NS because they hope for a "safe space" and nH fans who want to convert people to the true pairing are going to your channel. Not help when you had the life crisis that made you switch to nH last year. Which made them seem like they won, probably leading them to double down due to the victory, and if you changed your mind since. Well, you converted once; they just need to push more to convert you again.

 

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

 

The only way to get them to stop is to either just block any discussion of Naruto in your comment sections which will likely just drive away your viewers or changed the identity of your youtube channel; which will take time.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 05 July 2023 - 09:49 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

The problem is that you are probably the "most well known NS supporter on Youtube." Which means people that both want to talk about NS because they hope for a "safe space" and nH fans who want to convert people to the true pairing are going to your channel. Not help when you had the life crisis that made you switch to nH last year. Which made them seem like they won, probably leading them to double down due to the victory, and if you change your mind since. Well, you converted once; they just need to push more to convert you again.

 

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

 

 

 

Thank you so much Bail, I really love your response!

 

What you said is true, For the longest time I was probably the most well known NaruSaku Shipper on Youtube, and I am truly honored in dedicating the time I spent on those videos I did over the years in terms of the "canon" prior to the ending.   

 

I can totally understand the concern about me being converted again after what happened last year due to the life crisis I went through, but believe me when I say this.... I'm not gonna get swayed again when it comes to the canon pairing of NaruHina. 

 

 

I should've been a little more clear about this in the video when talking about NaruSaku fan projects, but  I will discuss about NaruSaku fan projects on my channel like Chatte's manga adaptation of Kaika Saisei each time she releases a chapter.  

 

 

 

I also plan on doing a breakdown analysis of the fan animation of Naruto Alternative The Last at some point either by the tail end of this year or the beginning of next year.

 

 

I knew that was the one missing piece I forgot to dive into in the video, but I will address it in the  comments section.       

 

 

The only way to get them to stop is to either just block any discussion of Naruto in your comment sections which will likely just drive away your viewers or changed the identity of your youtube channel; which will take time.

 

  

 

I've thought about doing that, but honestly the comments section don't necessarily bother me too much as it does give me a chance to interact with the viewers.   

 

Truth be told NaruSaku isn't necessarily the only aspect of my youtube channel,  since Naruto ended I have been branching it out with like other anime/manga content over the years such as Fairy Tail, Edens Zero, Attack on Titan, My Hero, Black Clover, etc..    

 

 

I just won't necessarily be making videos regarding what could've been versus what we ended up with. 

 

 

 

Again, thanks so much for the comment I really love that you took the time to give me your honest thoughts on it. 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 05 July 2023 - 09:46 PM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Sometime in August... I am starting a Shinachiku Podcast. You are welcome to join me. Anyone is.

[LuckyChi7]

Sometime in August... I am starting a Shinachiku Podcast. You are welcome to join me. Anyone is.

 

 

Hmm sounds interesting!

 

 

I'm planning on doing something for my own NS child: Sachiko Uzumaki in the future for the channel, but at the moment I'm write more on her story first in fanfiction before I start diving into the youtube side of things for her character! 

 

 

Though,  I did start up a twitter account for everything related to Sachi  < -  It's definitely gonna get more focus and attention after I drop Chapter 2 on July 10th! 

 

 

Link: https://twitter.com/cheekySachi4911

Edited by LuckyChi7, 05 July 2023 - 09:59 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

Thank you so much Bail, I really love your response!

 

What you said is true, For the longest time I was probably the most well known NaruSaku Shipper on Youtube, and I am truly honored in dedicating the time I spent on those videos I did over the years in terms of the "canon" prior to the ending.   

 

I can totally understand the concern about me being converted again after what happened last year due to the life crisis I went through, but believe me when I say this.... I'm not gonna get swayed again when it comes to the canon pairing of NaruHina. 

 

I should've been a little more clear about this in the video when talking about NaruSaku fan projects, but  I will discuss about NaruSaku fan projects on my channel like Chatte's manga adaptation of Kaika Saisei each time she releases a chapter.  

 

I also plan on doing a breakdown analysis of the fan animation of Naruto Alternative The Last at some point either by the tail end of this year or the beginning of next year.

 

I knew that was the one missing piece I forgot to dive into in the video, but I will address it in the  comments section.       

 

I've thought about doing that, but honestly the comments section don't necessarily bother me too much as it does give me a chance to interact with the viewers.   

 

Truth be told NaruSaku isn't necessarily the only aspect of my youtube channel,  since Naruto ended I have been branching it out with like other anime/manga content over the years such as Fairy Tail, Edens Zero, Attack on Titan, My Hero, Black Clover, etc..    

 

I just won't necessarily be making videos regarding what could've been versus what we ended up with. 

 

Again, thanks so much for the comment I really love that you took the time to give me your honest thoughts on it. 

I say this before anything else. I do not blame you, nor should anyone else, for having a life crisis that made you question NS and switch to nH. Your life is your life, as are your own personal issues. But, I feel even at the time you should have kept it private and offline. Because, the nH fans would obviously use you as a cudgel in any stupid internet arguments from then on, not caring about your own well being, and if you only changed your opinion because of that life crisis, if once you dealt with it when went back to NS. They would not stop harassing you in order to make you re-covert back to nH.

 

From what I recall, you were like #4 or #5 on the nH's enemies list around the time of the ending after: Chattle, LadyGT, and that one anime director that was doing NS filler after the pein arc. Granted I always thought it was concerning they had an enemies list for an online disagreement over parings. So you were high on their list of people that needed to be punished or converted for not worshiping Hinata. From what you or anyone else is now? I don't know, I stopped dealing with Naruto debates beyond this site and few people in my personal life years ago.

 

I keep forgetting to read Kaika Saisei. There is a manga adaptation?

 

As for your channel. You are lucky in that you channel does have an identity as they give your viewers an idea of what you are going to produce. All you need to do is expand what you cover and gradually shift your audience's expectation.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 05 July 2023 - 11:07 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

I say this before anything else. I do not blame you, nor should anyone else, for having a life crisis that made you question NS and switch to nH. Your life is your life, as are your own personal issues. But, I feel even at the time you should have kept it private and offline. Because, the nH fans would obviously use you as a cudgel in any stupid internet arguments from then on, not caring about your own well being, and if you only changed your opinion because of that life crisis, if once you dealt with it when went back to NS. They would not stop harassing you in order to make you re-covert back to nH.

 

 

In hindsight I agree, staying offline would've been the better decision at the time and just focus on my own well being in my personal day to day life.  

 

You do have a good point that they would use me as a cudgel in the arguments regardless of how I was feeling, and that definitely does sound like something  they would do which isn't all that surprising ya know!

 

From what I recall, you were like #4 or #5 on the nH's enemies list around the time of the ending after: Chattle, LadyGT, and that one anime director that was doing NS filler after the pein arc. Granted I always thought it was concerning they had an enemies list for an online disagreement over parings. So you were high on their list of people that needed to be punished or converted for not worshiping Hinata. From what you or anyone else is now? I don't know, I stopped dealing with Naruto debates beyond this site and few people in my personal life years ago.

 

 

 

Wow for real? I had no idea that I was on anyone's  NH enemy list at the time of the ending, but knowing that is honestly really concerning that they'd have a list on people that need to be swayed over fictional characters and ships. I think it's honestly a really great thing that you've stopped dealing with the Naruto debates besides being here and people in your personal life. 

 

I'd probably be doing that too! 

 

I keep forgetting to read Kaika Saisei. There is a manga adaptation?

 

 

 

 

Yeah there's only just one chapter out at the moment, but  I know chapter 2 comes out on August 2nd.

 

 

The link is right here: https://medibang.com...17490024659971/

 

 

 

As for your channel. You are lucky in that you channel does have an identity as they give your viewers an idea of what you are going to produce. All you need to do is expand what you cover and gradually shift your audience's expectation.

 

 

 

I am really fortunate about the kind of content and presence that my channel does have, and helping my viewers know what's coming.  

 

 

Definitely, I agree that expanding the topics I cover need to be expanded like you said which in turn can shift what my audience's  will expect for the channel. 

[Illnevergiveup3]

 
 
Thank you so much Bail, I really love your response!
 
What you said is true, For the longest time I was probably the most well known NaruSaku Shipper on Youtube, and I am truly honored in dedicating the time I spent on those videos I did over the years in terms of the "canon" prior to the ending.   
 
I can totally understand the concern about me being converted again after what happened last year due to the life crisis I went through, but believe me when I say this.... I'm not gonna get swayed again when it comes to the canon pairing of NaruHina. 
 
 
I should've been a little more clear about this in the video when talking about NaruSaku fan projects, but  I will discuss about NaruSaku fan projects on my channel like Chatte's manga adaptation of Kaika Saisei each time she releases a chapter.  
 
 
 
I also plan on doing a breakdown analysis of the fan animation of Naruto Alternative The Last at some point either by the tail end of this year or the beginning of next year.
 
 
I knew that was the one missing piece I forgot to dive into in the video, but I will address it in the  comments section.       
 
 
  
 
I've thought about doing that, but honestly the comments section don't necessarily bother me too much as it does give me a chance to interact with the viewers.   
 
Truth be told NaruSaku isn't necessarily the only aspect of my youtube channel,  since Naruto ended I have been branching it out with like other anime/manga content over the years such as Fairy Tail, Edens Zero, Attack on Titan, My Hero, Black Clover, etc..    
 
 
I just won't necessarily be making videos regarding what could've been versus what we ended up with. 
 
 
 
Again, thanks so much for the comment I really love that you took the time to give me your honest thoughts on it. 

wait, so you ship NS again? Do you mean that youre shIPPING NS again and wont ever get swayed to NH again?

[TheFirstEvil100]

Well Ill always ship NS. Call it my British stubbornness we never go down without a good old fight.

[LuckyChi7]

wait, so you ship NS again? Do you mean that youre shIPPING NS again and wont ever get swayed to NH again?

Thats right, Im shipping NS again and Im not ever getting swayed by NH again.its been that way since the tail end of last year and going into 2023. 😁

Edited by LuckyChi7, 06 July 2023 - 12:53 AM.

[LuckyChi7]

Well Ill always ship NS. Call it my British stubbornness we never go down without a good old fight.

I love the spirit and passsion 😁

[TheFirstEvil100]

I love the spirit and passsion 😁

True theres not a single pairing Ive ever stopped liking be NaruSaku or Pokeshipping. I will love the pairings for the rest of my life so the nH fans can try but they will fail.

[LuckyChi7]

True theres not a single pairing Ive ever stopped liking be NaruSaku or Pokeshipping. I will love the pairings for the rest of my life so the nH fans can try but they will fail.

 

 

You can say that again! though admittedly when it comes to Pokemon I'm more of an AmourShipper, but I do like pokeshipping!

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I will Ship Ns and SoKai. Only I think that's canon.

[LuckyChi7]

I will Ship Ns and SoKai. Only I think that's canon.

 

 

I can't wait for their reunion in KH4!

[Derock]

A bit of a shocker of cameos, so watching Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, I noticed a certain trio appeared on one screen:

 

https://www.sportske...veryone-baffled

[LuckyChi7]

A bit of a shocker of cameos, so watching Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, I noticed a certain trio appeared on one screen:

 

https://www.sportske...veryone-baffled

 

 

Woah.... That's interesting!!

[Moon_Girl]

The manga adaptation of Kaika Saisei is very, very good. Looks official. I'm going to adopt it as the official Naruto canon ending. 

But the absolute BS Chatte had to go through to get it hosted in the first place. I follow her on twitter and it was a nightmare. NH/SS fans are just as insane as they were before Naruto ended, if not more. I guess they can't stand the very thought that a fan might produce something way more believable and amazing that doesn't include their burning dumpster fire of ships. They dogpiled on the host sites and mass reported it even though it did not break any rules.
Nearly 10 years later and NaruSaku lives rent free in their brains, completely and utterly threatened over the fact that their relationship was so nearly perfect that to this day, it stomps NH/SS into the ground despite NH/SS being ""canon"".

They can't convince me otherwise. They're either threatened by a ship that can't hurt them or they're so obsessed and butthurt even though Studio Pierrot practically spoon feeds them everything they could ever want (even though the rest of the story (Burrito) has been reduced to a 12 year old's Naruto fanfiction) they know deep down NaruSaku was almost canon and is the objectively better ship amongst the three. 
Oooooor they're loveless NEETs with nothing better to do with their life and time. Pretty sad tbh. 
They scream, cry and throw tantrums at NaruSaku fans on twitter non-stop. I wonder if their parents are aware their 10 year olds are posting on twitter...

[totherpage95]

https://www.quora.co...get_type=answer
Imagine thinking part 1 hinata should've been trained by the hokage 😂

[LuckyChi7]

The manga adaptation of Kaika Saisei is very, very good. Looks official. I'm going to adopt it as the official Naruto canon ending. 

But the absolute BS Chatte had to go through to get it hosted in the first place. I follow her on twitter and it was a nightmare. NH/SS fans are just as insane as they were before Naruto ended, if not more. I guess they can't stand the very thought that a fan might produce something way more believable and amazing that doesn't include their burning dumpster fire of ships. They dogpiled on the host sites and mass reported it even though it did not break any rules.
Nearly 10 years later and NaruSaku lives rent free in their brains, completely and utterly threatened over the fact that their relationship was so nearly perfect that to this day, it stomps NH/SS into the ground despite NH/SS being ""canon"".

They can't convince me otherwise. They're either threatened by a ship that can't hurt them or they're so obsessed and butthurt even though Studio Pierrot practically spoon feeds them everything they could ever want (even though the rest of the story (Burrito) has been reduced to a 12 year old's Naruto fanfiction) they know deep down NaruSaku was almost canon and is the objectively better ship amongst the three. 
Oooooor they're loveless NEETs with nothing better to do with their life and time. Pretty sad tbh. 
They scream, cry and throw tantrums at NaruSaku fans on twitter non-stop. I wonder if their parents are aware their 10 year olds are posting on twitter...

 

I agree Chatte didn't deserve to go through any of that on twitter, and I practically see what goes on over there on a daily at least once which... it's ridiculous to see what kind of nonsense goes down there. 

 

 

The fact that they continue to do  the things that they did is just infuriating, but it's something that doesn't really surprise me anymore these days. 

 

it's not just with Narusaku fans either,  I feel like EreHisu (my AoT pairing)  gets treated the same way by EreMika fans and I was like.... this is turning into Naruto all over again.

 

Not anyone here of course, but EreMika fans I feel have the same entitled immature takes that NH/SS fans have been giving NS fans over the years. They feel so threatened over Attack on Titan No Requiem which is a harmless fan project by people who weren't happy with the ending and wanted a satasfactory ending with Eren's Character conclusion in the same vein as Naruto's character conclusion. 

 

So when I saw the kind of backlash Chatte was getting with her Kaika Saisei project the only thing running through my mind was.... you guys (NH/SS & EMs < - Ending Defenders) can't seem to let other people have fun in their own safe space.