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[narusaku256]

When I look back at this once great series and how it became nothing more than a disappointment in the end-- The plot-holes, the misleads, characters with potential who were either wasted or forgotten, character developments that got trashed, solutions that were never given, promises that were never fulfilled, awful pacing-- all come to mind. 
 
' The younger generation will succeed where the older ones failed, they will surpass the older generation '-- Kishimoto loved to throw this statement around so much so that it got accepted as a fact. 700 chapters and a 'canon' movie later, its still difficult to convincingly say the younger generation did any better than their predecessors.  
 
Jiraiya, Obito, Kakashi, Tsunade, Madara... Every one of these characters exemplified failure and all of them reiterated that the younger generation would succeed where they failed. But did it really happen..?
 
Jiraiya's death scene was one of the most emotional scene in the manga. Utterly defeated and shattered by his former student, Jiraiya was ready to die thinking he turned out to be a total failure. Emotionally and physically wounded beyond repair, the light in his eyes faded and his heart-beat slowed to the point of no return.
 
But then...he remembers Naruto. Such was his faith in Naruto that he managed to cheat death for a few minutes by sheer will power alone. Did Naruto really do justice to his master's faith in him..?
 
Jiraiya remembers his failures:
' I failed to save the lives of my teacher and my student '-- Naruto succeeded in saving Kakashi but failed to save his other mentor, Jiraiya himself. 
' I was continually rejected by Tsunade '-- FAIL. Naruto settled for silvermedal-hime instead.
' I couldn't save my friend ' -- Jiraiya wanted to bring back Orochimaru . Though Naruto succeeded in saving Sasuke , he failed to get back his best friend. Sasuke ended up a wanderer.
' I couldn't bring peace to the world '-- This has to be Kishi's biggest 'kitten you' to his readers. I was dumbfounded when I read his grand explanation that all the unrest and war in the world were solely due to a rivalry between two men. As if that wasn't lame enough, this rivalry manages to pass down from generation to generation like some genetic thing...   
 
Masashi Kishimoto's answer to World peace- Two 'reincarnated' men fight and come to 'understand each other'. And BOOM ! World peace gets established.    
 
 
Tsunade became Hokage and she was the most celebrated medic ever who did not take any crap from any man. Sakura ended up as a housewife to the man who specialized in humiliating and torturing her. Sakura became a masochist with no dignity or self-respect around this unworthy man 
 
Tsunade failed to save the life of ones precious to her-- Sakura succeeded to save Naruto.
Tsunade failed to move on from her first love and as a result, lead a miserable life gambling and drinking wine-- While Sakura did manage to marry her first love, her life looks to be just as miserable as her mentor's, if not even worse. Sakura is a housewife and single mom who spends her time dusting bookshelves, looks to be out of touch with her friends and waits for a man that won't show up. Damn ! 
 
 
Madara's biggest regret was shown right at the end when he wishes he had cherished his friendship with Hashirama and compromised wiith Hashirama's ideals instead of trying to be a revolutionary. Sasuke manages to understand Naruto and even accept Naruto's ideals but what's the point..? He leads a wandering life of solitude, making the same mistake of not cherishing the bonds of family and friendship. Sasuke started alone and ends up alone !    
 
Kakashi had a traumatic childhood as a result of which became an irresponsible adult and disappointing teacher. Did Naruto do any better? Nope, he is a disappointing father who asks his son to 'endure' loneliness.
 
Obito was another character whose failures were supposed to be a life-lesson for Naruto. Obito died regretting his sins and hoped Naruto would be able to live his dreams.
 
Obito wanted to become the greatest Hokage-- Okay, Naruto succeeded in becoming a Hokage. But... When did he become the Hokage? How did he become the Hokage ? How is Naruto, as Hokage ? Is he amazing ? What does he do as the Hokage? The life-long dream of his MC.. and this is the best Kishi could come up with. 
Obito failed first and then succeeded to win over Rin-- FAIL.Not just a fail, its a tragedy. Naruto failed to win over the girl he loved all through the manga. Obito, after all his crimes, managed to do better than Naruto !
 
The Hero and MC failed to surpass a psychotic murderer and Villain-- Sums up this failure of a series perfectly.

Right in the heart man! Right in the heart!

[Narufan85]

When I look back at this once great series and how it became nothing more than a disappointment in the end-- The plot-holes, the misleads, characters with potential who were either wasted or forgotten, character developments that got trashed, solutions that were never given, promises that were never fulfilled, awful pacing-- all come to mind. 
 
' The younger generation will succeed where the older ones failed, they will surpass the older generation '-- Kishimoto loved to throw this statement around so much so that it got accepted as a fact. 700 chapters and a 'canon' movie later, its still difficult to convincingly say the younger generation did any better than their predecessors.  
 
Jiraiya, Obito, Kakashi, Tsunade, Madara... Every one of these characters exemplified failure and all of them reiterated that the younger generation would succeed where they failed. But did it really happen..?
 
Jiraiya's death scene was one of the most emotional scene in the manga. Utterly defeated and shattered by his former student, Jiraiya was ready to die thinking he turned out to be a total failure. Emotionally and physically wounded beyond repair, the light in his eyes faded and his heart-beat slowed to the point of no return.
 
But then...he remembers Naruto. Such was his faith in Naruto that he managed to cheat death for a few minutes by sheer will power alone. Did Naruto really do justice to his master's faith in him..?
 
Jiraiya remembers his failures:
' I failed to save the lives of my teacher and my student '-- Naruto succeeded in saving Kakashi but failed to save his other mentor, Jiraiya himself. 
' I was continually rejected by Tsunade '-- FAIL. Naruto settled for silvermedal-hime instead.
' I couldn't save my friend ' -- Jiraiya wanted to bring back Orochimaru . Though Naruto succeeded in saving Sasuke , he failed to get back his best friend. Sasuke ended up a wanderer.
' I couldn't bring peace to the world '-- This has to be Kishi's biggest 'kitten you' to his readers. I was dumbfounded when I read his grand explanation that all the unrest and war in the world were solely due to a rivalry between two men. As if that wasn't lame enough, this rivalry manages to pass down from generation to generation like some genetic thing...   
 
Masashi Kishimoto's answer to World peace- Two 'reincarnated' men fight and come to 'understand each other'. And BOOM ! World peace gets established.    
 
 
Tsunade became Hokage and she was the most celebrated medic ever who did not take any crap from any man. Sakura ended up as a housewife to the man who specialized in humiliating and torturing her. Sakura became a masochist with no dignity or self-respect around this unworthy man 
 
Tsunade failed to save the life of ones precious to her-- Sakura succeeded to save Naruto.
Tsunade failed to move on from her first love and as a result, lead a miserable life gambling and drinking wine-- While Sakura did manage to marry her first love, her life looks to be just as miserable as her mentor's, if not even worse. Sakura is a housewife and single mom who spends her time dusting bookshelves, looks to be out of touch with her friends and waits for a man that won't show up. Damn ! 
 
 
Madara's biggest regret was shown right at the end when he wishes he had cherished his friendship with Hashirama and compromised wiith Hashirama's ideals instead of trying to be a revolutionary. Sasuke manages to understand Naruto and even accept Naruto's ideals but what's the point..? He leads a wandering life of solitude, making the same mistake of not cherishing the bonds of family and friendship. Sasuke started alone and ends up alone !    
 
Kakashi had a traumatic childhood as a result of which became an irresponsible adult and disappointing teacher. Did Naruto do any better? Nope, he is a disappointing father who asks his son to 'endure' loneliness.
 
Obito was another character whose failures were supposed to be a life-lesson for Naruto. Obito died regretting his sins and hoped Naruto would be able to live his dreams.
 
Obito wanted to become the greatest Hokage-- Okay, Naruto succeeded in becoming a Hokage. But... When did he become the Hokage? How did he become the Hokage ? How is Naruto, as Hokage ? Is he amazing ? What does he do as the Hokage? The life-long dream of his MC.. and this is the best Kishi could come up with. 
Obito failed first and then succeeded to win over Rin-- FAIL.Not just a fail, its a tragedy. Naruto failed to win over the girl he loved all through the manga. Obito, after all his crimes, managed to do better than Naruto !
 
The Hero and MC failed to surpass a psychotic murderer and Villain-- Sums up this failure of a series perfectly.

This post is amazing. So many important themes and questions thrown aside so Hinata-sama and Sasuke-kuuuuun could get their prizes.

 

merry christmas to h&e users~

<3

[ichigo500]

Junk has a twitter?

Yup ! most of them have one : @https://twitter.com/junkotakeuchi45

[Chatte]

Yup ! most of them have one : @https://twitter.com/junkotakeuchi45

Where has this been all my life? LOL!

[SuperChief]

Oh man....

 

It's now at 4.35? But it was...Why? Why?............

 

The Last jumped from 2.85 to 4.35?

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

The Last jumped from 2.85 to 4.35?

Lol. You skipped the very last line.

[ichigo500]

Oh man....

 

It's now at 4.35? But it was...Why? Why?............

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's Big Hero 6, guys! It had 4.38. Oh well...

You scared meeeee ! I thought you were talking about the last 

[Princess Iris]

 
The Last jumped from 2.85 to 4.35?

lmfao he's not talking about The Last

[AHK]

Surprise OP chapter release makes me a very happy man today XD

[ichigo500]

I tried to modify the tweet a little to make it more understandable...but ..it still not .. 

tweet

すごいうろ覚えだから話半分でお願いします。

たしか"NARUTOはどういう存在ですか"って質問に「失恋相手だよ！笑」順ちゃん答えてたんだけどそのあと、「いつ(多分ヒナタに)惚れたんだよ！これ男性ならわかるの？」→

 

 

「女だからわからないのかな」みたいなこと言ってて順ちゃんもかってなってた

 

 

 

誤字

NARUTOじゃなくてナルトです

I need your help by grain of salt and because it is amazing faint memory.

Certainly "NARUTO is what there Is" After that I was not the answer "It's heartbreak opponent lol" Jun-chan to question me, "when I'll I was (perhaps in hinata) love! It can be seen of it if this man?" →

 

 

If you're saying that like a thing as "kana do not know because it is a woman" and this has been bought also Jun-chan

 

 

 

Typographical error

It is Naruto 's not NARUTO

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I tried to modify the tweet a little to make it more understandable...but ..it still not .. 

tweet

すごいうろ覚えだから話半分でお願いします。

たしか"NARUTOはどういう存在ですか"って質問に「失恋相手だよ！笑」順ちゃん答えてたんだけどそのあと、「いつ(多分ヒナタに)惚れたんだよ！これ男性ならわかるの？」→

 

 

「女だからわからないのかな」みたいなこと言ってて順ちゃんもかってなってた

 

 

 

誤字

NARUTOじゃなくてナルトです

I need your help by grain of salt and because it is amazing faint memory.

Certainly "NARUTO is what there Is" After that I was not the answer "It's heartbreak opponent lol" Jun-chan to question me, "when I'll I was (perhaps in hinata) love! It can be seen of it if this man?" →

 

 

If you're saying that like a thing as "kana do not know because it is a woman" and this has been bought also Jun-chan

 

 

 

Typographical error

It is Naruto 's not NARUTO

 

Not sure I understand what is going on here. Damn translations on Google and whatever! X-D

[lupina]

Ramen ... come back ... 

[Atheck]

Junko is easily the most respectable and consistent member of the cast on Naruto. I really hope she manages to escape the materialistic clutches of Pierrot before that horrid film centred around Hinata spawn and the inevitable spin-off anime begin. The fact that no information has been provided on what Naruto's role will be, if any, is a good sign.

[Gaara's hair]

[lupina]

 

Ramenmumu or what?! xD

[Lady Lys]

merry christmas to h&e users~

So beautiful.  

 

And when I was looking at it Adele took possession of my Spotify. The universe is cruel and so is shuffle mode. My poor poor kokoro.

 

We could have had it all

Rolling in the deep
You had my heart inside of your hand
But you played it, to the beat.

 

 

 

 

 

Coincidence? I think not.... 

 

[Illnevergiveup3]

Watching the last episode......imo, they focused a little too much on Hinata...a few seconds too much
And the designs were not good enough for a scene like this :

OMFG lol look how ugly they made them. I bet they tried to make Hinata look like a goddess. They look like some kitten from Mr. Katz.

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 26 December 2014 - 04:52 PM.

[Gaara's hair]

So beautiful.  

 

And when I was looking at it Adele took possession of my Spotify. The universe is cruel and so is shuffle mode. My poor poor kokoro.

 

We could have had it all

Rolling in the deep
You had my heart inside of your hand
But you played it, to the beat.

 

 

 

 

 

Coincidence? I think not.... 

 

 

                                                                                                                              You think?

                                                                         

[Advaith]

When I look back at this once great series and how it became nothing more than a disappointment in the end-- The plot-holes, the misleads, characters with potential who were either wasted or forgotten, character developments that got trashed, solutions that were never given, promises that were never fulfilled, awful pacing-- all come to mind. 

 

' The younger generation will succeed where the older ones failed, they will surpass the older generation '-- Kishimoto loved to throw this statement around so much so that it got accepted as a fact. 700 chapters and a 'canon' movie later, its still difficult to convincingly say the younger generation did any better than their predecessors.  

 

Jiraiya, Obito, Kakashi, Tsunade, Madara... Every one of these characters exemplified failure and all of them reiterated that the younger generation would succeed where they failed. But did it really happen..?

 

Jiraiya's death scene was one of the most emotional scene in the manga. Utterly defeated and shattered by his former student, Jiraiya was ready to die thinking he turned out to be a total failure. Emotionally and physically wounded beyond repair, the light in his eyes faded and his heart-beat slowed to the point of no return.

 

But then...he remembers Naruto. Such was his faith in Naruto that he managed to cheat death for a few minutes by sheer will power alone. Did Naruto really do justice to his master's faith in him..?

 

Jiraiya remembers his failures:

' I failed to save the lives of my teacher and my student '-- Naruto succeeded in saving Kakashi but failed to save his other mentor, Jiraiya himself. 

' I was continually rejected by Tsunade '-- FAIL. Naruto settled for silvermedal-hime instead.

' I couldn't save my friend ' -- Jiraiya wanted to bring back Orochimaru . Though Naruto succeeded in saving Sasuke , he failed to get back his best friend. Sasuke ended up a wanderer.

' I couldn't bring peace to the world '-- This has to be Kishi's biggest 'kitten you' to his readers. I was dumbfounded when I read his grand explanation that all the unrest and war in the world were solely due to a rivalry between two men. As if that wasn't lame enough, this rivalry manages to pass down from generation to generation like some genetic thing...   

 

Masashi Kishimoto's answer to World peace- Two 'reincarnated' men fight and come to 'understand each other'. And BOOM ! World peace gets established.    

 

 

Tsunade became Hokage and she was the most celebrated medic ever who did not take any crap from any man. Sakura ended up as a housewife to the man who specialized in humiliating and torturing her. Sakura became a masochist with no dignity or self-respect around this unworthy man 

 

Tsunade failed to save the life of ones precious to her-- Sakura succeeded to save Naruto.

Tsunade failed to move on from her first love and as a result, lead a miserable life gambling and drinking wine-- While Sakura did manage to marry her first love, her life looks to be just as miserable as her mentor's, if not even worse. Sakura is a housewife and single mom who spends her time dusting bookshelves, looks to be out of touch with her friends and waits for a man that won't show up. Damn ! 

 

 

Madara's biggest regret was shown right at the end when he wishes he had cherished his friendship with Hashirama and compromised wiith Hashirama's ideals instead of trying to be a revolutionary. Sasuke manages to understand Naruto and even accept Naruto's ideals but what's the point..? He leads a wandering life of solitude, making the same mistake of not cherishing the bonds of family and friendship. Sasuke started alone and ends up alone !    

 

Kakashi had a traumatic childhood as a result of which became an irresponsible adult and disappointing teacher. Did Naruto do any better? Nope, he is a disappointing father who asks his son to 'endure' loneliness.

 

Obito was another character whose failures were supposed to be a life-lesson for Naruto. Obito died regretting his sins and hoped Naruto would be able to live his dreams.

 

Obito wanted to become the greatest Hokage-- Okay, Naruto succeeded in becoming a Hokage. But... When did he become the Hokage? How did he become the Hokage ? How is Naruto, as Hokage ? Is he amazing ? What does he do as the Hokage? The life-long dream of his MC.. and this is the best Kishi could come up with. 

Obito failed first and then succeeded to win over Rin-- FAIL.Not just a fail, its a tragedy. Naruto failed to win over the girl he loved all through the manga. Obito, after all his crimes, managed to do better than Naruto !

 

The Hero and MC failed to surpass a psychotic murderer and Villain-- Sums up this failure of a series perfectly.

This

[luffyq1]

i miss ramen